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I dislike this woman...

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beaubodor blogless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)

you forgot the best one:

(_, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:27, archived)

that really

isn't shopped.

(_, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:28, archived)

Didn't find that one

but saw it on the box.

EDIT - Thanks - have changed the file.

It is dreadful.

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beaubodor blogless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:30, archived)

that's real?

what the fuck?

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:32, archived)

she

also was a pr person for two tone records hehe

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:34, archived)

I refuse to believe that.

no one would dress up like a tub of Neopolitan ice cream and go on television. NO ONE. too bad she's not wearing a cream colored turtleneck though. that would be too perfect. mmm. neopolitan. I always ate the chocolate part first. then mom would get pissed off and not buy any new ice cream til I ate the rest. so then I'd eat all the strawberry. then I'd wait til the vanilla grew refrigerator hair and then I'd finally throw it away, secretly.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:40, archived)

i sympathise

entirely

(_, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:42, archived)

I used to feed my dog the stuff I didn't like under the table while my mother wasn't looking.

this worked fine, until I learned that dogs don't like spinach. and moms don't like it on their carpets.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:52, archived)

I have a friend

he was sad, he likes women, so i made him one

I half inched the blinking eye from here, sorry whoever i theived it from.

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StickFigureNinja is worried he may be on the list, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)

YARGH!

That looks scarily like my cousin.

Why haven't I gone to bed? MUST NOT REFRESH!

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)

please forward your cousin to me

for further inspection

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:19, archived)

That WAS my last refresh,

Good night!

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:19, archived)

I just watched The Duke

in The Shootist, it was mighty good.

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StickFigureNinja is worried he may be on the list, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:19, archived)

That is just

rather goddam good !

WYH !

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beaubodor blogless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:17, archived)

that is quite outstanding

a1 tip top

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lemonhead, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:26, archived)

Gawd

with lips like that...

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Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:28, archived)

Inspired by Eclectech below,

I went and made my own balloon animal

we all saw that coming, right?

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Or is it?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:07, archived)

is it

inflated?

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:08, archived)

it won

a clown award, you know

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Or is it?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:08, archived)

i take it

the next thing will be to make it into a tattoo or something.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:12, archived)

you balloonatic

that's inflaterrific.
etc.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)

That deserves a shiny new

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Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:13, archived)

for a first animation, that is abject class.

here's mine.

(_, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:18, archived)

Umm...

Sure thing.

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Digeridude Lord Wellington's Beef Trapeze, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:20, archived)

I was thinking of that pic

just the other day, it's superb.

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StickFigureNinja is worried he may be on the list, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:26, archived)

oddly enough

so was i...

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:30, archived)

oop

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:13, archived)

Egg-shell-ant.

MUST. GO. TO. BED.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:15, archived)

haha

that is rather gigglesome :)

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:17, archived)

now thats annying but im thankful

i put owrk into other posts hat are good and t ake me ages and get nothing... i erase a shark and make a 'baloon shark' and get a woo.. jeez society sucks :)

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:22, archived)

that's

just the way things are i'm afraid.
My only frontpager was completely random,
I put no thought into it whatsoever.
Sargant simply told me to 'add hummus' to a photo he took.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:27, archived)

the magic donkey

is a fickle creature

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:36, archived)

yay...

for balloon animals :-)

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:15, archived)

Yay!

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)

woo.. not long now...

W.I.P: www.futoria.com/wacki
<geek>
the form bit doesnt work yet. but the text and image are coming from an xml file and plucked at random. now all i have to do is the php/mysql bit... mmm
</geek>

lovely...

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blugg (it's all gone horribly wrong), Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:52, archived)

i don't quite

understand what is going on there...

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:56, archived)

it will be....

....errr.....

well. at the start, it loads a file with a list of Quotes and a list of jpegs. Then it randomly flicks through them, loading the jpeg and typing the text AND making him 'talk'.. then when it's done them all, it relaods the text file.

What I will be doing (ignore the current text) is adding the abily for people to add an image and a quite.. and it will put it in the 'playlist' in his wacky ramble, for the next loop..

ahem . ( i only have a handful of entries in it at the moment - i'll be staying up til I get it going to the database. then bed. then wake up to see my server is fucked) ;)

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blugg (it's all gone horribly wrong), Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:59, archived)

Yes, please!

That will be a thing of beauty and a joy forever, or at least for a few weeks.

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:00, archived)

aaaaaaaah

i seeee.
Should be quite a hit.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:01, archived)

pre-WOO!

..zing! might add this too... ahem

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blugg (it's all gone horribly wrong), Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:02, archived)

haha

that is rather lovely.
Hehe.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:04, archived)

Excellent!

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:14, archived)

That's great

and I just read the bit about the form part not working. Doh!

That will be real popular on the blogs once you have addable text!

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:58, archived)

also...

...i need to get it to resize stupidy over sized jpegs. (it masks them at the moment)

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blugg (it's all gone horribly wrong), Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:00, archived)

no particular reason

but someone's lost here

(sndmn, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:51, archived)

Very cool

..what with dolphins and dogs being used to sweep mines, there may as well be a polar bear corps..

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Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 4:14, archived)

late night monkey...

can't... stop... editing... monkeys... HELP...

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:49, archived)

Ahhhh,

he looks like he's working on a way to solve the world's troubles.

Have a small Woo: Woo!

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:51, archived)

rogan... still about?

liked your post below so much i was compelled to make one...

i shouldn't be allowed to b3ta whilst drunk... sorry...

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:52, archived)

haha

that is excellent!
wooyay.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:54, archived)

if god had her way

we would only ever b3ta whilst drunk!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)

argh nooo...

i've been sitting trying to work out how to make a balloon fear... that can't be healthy :-)

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:12, archived)

wave a needle in front of it

that should do the trick

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:18, archived)

hahahahahaha....

that's a lot easier than what i've been trying to do :-)

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:21, archived)

tha monkey is ginger

i, however, am not.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:53, archived)

No, no

that's a lie. You are ginger, and our forces have banished all non-gingers from the country.

/Minister for Information

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:55, archived)

is it just me

or does anyone else have the suspicion that the iraqi minister of information is just some guy who wants to feel important and so pretends to be the iraqi minister of information?
After all, he has never been seen before.
I recon he just turned up after the actual iraq government went into hiding.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:57, archived)

Is that

Whoopi Goldberg as Guinan?

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Ratsta, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:54, archived)

i thought i'd repost my monkey!!

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:03, archived)

love that woo yay 8D

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:25, archived)

Deercats!

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:40, archived)

i can't cope

i just
cant cope.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:45, archived)

....and the Lord looked apon the deercats...

and saw that they were full of hummus, and verily deserving of hosts of angels singing "woo" and "yay" and "houpla"

here endeth the lesson

(nogber, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:47, archived)

Meerbats?

anyone?
Go on, you know you want to, and I can't be arsed...

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:48, archived)

hark!

tis the rumbling of a distant bandwagon.....

(nogber, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:48, archived)

Meer...dare i say...Bats?

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:00, archived)

surprised

its not bin dun

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:20, archived)

i actually already did... but didnt post it..

hehe well done :P

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:25, archived)

back stayin up late postin when I should slep

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:29, archived)

Hehe

that's fantastic!
I can always count on this board to crack me up when I'm down.

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Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 4:13, archived)

waah

how the hell do i get into isketch.com? I tried moving the mouse EVERYWHERE and nothing happened,no indicator of where to click.HELP!!!
edit:I just found an older post that taught me it's isketch.net not .com THANKS!!!

(idratherbebritish Nuke the U.S.!!!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:37, archived)

don't go

the trolls have taken over.
Bingowings might be the only one left there, unless he's been eaten.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:38, archived)

Eaten,

I'm afraid.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:39, archived)

the

fear!!the fear!!the fear!!the fear!!the fear!!the fear!!the fear!!the fear!!

(idratherbebritish Nuke the U.S.!!!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

Don't bother.

The trolls have invaded, so we've retreated to the (relative) safety of here.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:38, archived)

not been yet

I have one m0nk3y on my back, no need for another.

/unhelpful

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:39, archived)

you have?

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

yeah

and it keeps biting me. It's quick too, little bugger.

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:42, archived)

isketch scares me.

who are these people?
what do I do?
where do I post a kitty pic?

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

we fought

via the medium of tanks last week.

Either that, or it was a completely different zog?

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:43, archived)

I played you breifly,

but lost and quit.

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:46, archived)

were you called Zog though?

I just thought it was wierd bumping into a b3tan on a random match-up

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:48, archived)

I was EverStoned..

thanks for remembering.

:-(

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:49, archived)

well....

if you will muck about with your username!

:)

It comes back to me now....through the mist...

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:52, archived)

yes indeed I was Zog.

beautiful in simplicity, hideous in connotation.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)

I'm in a transisonal phase.

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:13, archived)

Feel
Shit.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:36, archived)

well

It's not the worst job I've ever heard of...I mean I work in IT support...
damn you and your isketch...worse than b3ta-crack

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:37, archived)

My isketch?
Don't blame me!

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:39, archived)

Well

not your's personally, just yours as in everyone's except mine

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:56, archived)

Now come on

and accept some responsibility..

Clickity Clickity Click, for much too much too big!

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:26, archived)

hahaha

good work there :P

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:46, archived)

i've been

told never to try playing "EverQuest"(or
"EverCrack" as my everquest-addicted friends call it)so,I would advise y'all not to got there either.
/soapbox

(idratherbebritish Nuke the U.S.!!!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:44, archived)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

....squishy..

(nogber, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:37, archived)

Heh, I just

realised I corrected a Welshman on his Welsh.

Up myself? Nah...

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:42, archived)

who

me?
Were you the one from swansea?

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:44, archived)

Yup.

My name doesn't fit in iSketch. So I use my alter-ego.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:48, archived)

aaaaaaaaaah

i see.
My name doesn't quite fit, but i used as much as i could anyway.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:49, archived)

noticed.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:52, archived)

Gaaaah!!!

More locals!
When we going to organise a Welsh b3ta-bash then?

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:56, archived)

Any time whilst I'm

in Swansea!

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:58, archived)

Well,

I was there on saturday just gone...
smells a bit doesn't it?

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:00, archived)

You just missed me

I left on Friday for three weeks.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:10, archived)

well,

there is us three,
plus azthespaz, plus Sargant.
It wouldn't really be the biggest gathering, plus some of us (me and sargant at least) are not even eighteen yet, but near enough.
It should be done, it really should.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:59, archived)

Ah well

I'd best be orf(now I've torn myself away from isketch) as got work in about 10 hours time(yes, I need a lot of sleep)

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:02, archived)

You could drink

J20, or Coke. ;-)

Have you HAD that HazyDaze shit? It's made just outside Swansea. It's shit.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:02, archived)

that'd be what the smell was on saturday then
what the hell is hazydaze?

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:03, archived)

Best

you don't know. I think you can only get it in Swansea.

It's an incredibly shit alcoholic "drink" made just outside Swansea. It's shit. Really shit. More chemicals than Basra. And it turns your tongue, shit, puke and lungs green. Even if you have the blue, orange, or white ones.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:05, archived)

Mmmmmm...

sounds like Brainwash...the most evil and brilliant 'soft'* drink ever...
Ahhh, how I miss brainwash...and my piss turning blue-green

*soft?ha!

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GigerPunk has, hopefully, slept since, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:16, archived)

hazydaze?

not even heard of it...

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:06, archived)

Aaaah Essex !!

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beaubodor blogless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:28, archived)

I thought that

was Michael Winner for a second then.. not gonna sleep well tonight..

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

Oooh, my house

is just off the top left!

EDIT: Thank you very much, bobodor, for making me look like I was trying to be funny.

EDIT 2: Sorry, I didn't mean to sound sarcastic...

EDIT 3: Of course, that would mean Your Fingers is/are in Audley End.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:34, archived)

Sorry !

Fixed now - see above. (nice house btw)

No prob !

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beaubodor blogless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:39, archived)

Big Brother is watching!

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:20, archived)

along with big sister,

big uncle, big neighbour, big cousin once removed, big milkman, the notorious B.I.G., big bird, and adam sandler as BIG Daddy

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Or is it?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:22, archived)

pffffff

i'm moving to the moon they cant see me there!

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:24, archived)

that's what you think!

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:25, archived)

2 words

nuclear telescopes!

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:26, archived)

bah!

I'm holding out for the fusion version. :)

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:28, archived)

you're holding out for a hero?

www.coldfusionvideo.com/d/deadlyreactor.html
www.coldfusionvideo.com/d/deadlyreactorpound.gif

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:30, archived)

yep, you got it!

I'm going, before I have to walk back in the scariness of night...

see everyone later :)

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

I think he

knows the Sporefish™ ;)

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Kallus speaks for the Spores, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

You forgot

Big mailman, big scarey old lady that smells of vitamins and pee, and big dog.

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Bitchy Teresa is bitchy, duh., Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:25, archived)

"Big Money"(Rush song),or "Big Time"(Peter Gabriel song)
(since you started it)

(idratherbebritish Nuke the U.S.!!!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

hello all

i am finally here after several hours on isketch.
The trolls invaded, so i had to find something else to do.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:24, archived)

gah!

kicked out of OUR OWN ROOM!
But back where we belong :)

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GR33DY, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:25, archived)

Spose

we could have made a new room thinking about it lol

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:27, archived)

but then

we would still be there, forever and ever and ever.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:29, archived)

just one more.........just one more............just one more............

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cwethan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:30, archived)

It's not addiction

it's... something a lot like it

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

it's like crack

but worse

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

obsession?

cumpulsiveness?

i was on Sat. night until 6:30 in the morning and didn't even remember where the time went.....now THAT'S a problem! LOL

/I'm still paying for the lack of sleee.....zzzzzzzzz

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cwethan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

i haven't shopped a kitten for days

I'm starting to get THE FEAR

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GR33DY, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:31, archived)

*goes in search of kittens*

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GR33DY, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

i haven't shopped a single

fugging thing all week.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:34, archived)

me either

I'm gonna have to rectify this travesty of a disastrous situation.

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GR33DY, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:35, archived)

yeah,

pull your finger out slacker ;)

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:38, archived)

Me either.

I've made one (rather lame) repost. I only come here for the company. So lonely, so lonely.

/masturbating & crying

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:36, archived)

I hope you're

rocking backward and forwards and muttering too?

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:38, archived)

Naturally.

Is there any other way to do it?

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

good

lad

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

Now I've got

"Sue Lawley! Sue Lawley! Sue Lawleeeeeyyyyyy!!" going round my head! Must sleeeeep!

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:40, archived)

I'd never realised

that before. *snigger*

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

hmmmm

feeling sue lawley.
Hmmmm.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:48, archived)

hehe

yup.
btw, the post below, my mate just got a huge dragon tatoo on his back.
/vaguely relevant

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:27, archived)

tattoo's are more addictive

than b3ta and isketch put together.

FACT

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:41, archived)

I've been bored recently,

and thinking of getting one - whaddya reckon I should have?

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:42, archived)

don't do anything rash

they don't rub off.

Both of mine I waited for at least 12 months before getting them commited to flesh. If I could have afforded more though, I'd be covered by now.

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:45, archived)

Nah, I'd only ever

have one of those 3-year ones. I'm far too ~~sensible~~ ~~boring~~ ~~much of a wimp~~ scared by old people with tattoos to have a permanent one.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:47, archived)

design something yourself

tattoo's are like b3ta. Much more satisfying if you make it yourself

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:50, archived)

Oh God,

I'm not that creative. It'd probably an unrecognisable squiggle.

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The Duke Of Your Fingers feels like an old man... mmm, tasty!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:53, archived)

a picture

of 'the fear' on your buttock!

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Lord_Munkee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:45, archived)

YES!

I might actually do that!

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:47, archived)

HEY!

I just did my first tattoo today!
lookit:

I know it looks a little crooked, but it's only because he's got his foot turned. and yes, the scratchy lines are on purpose. you can't do that by accident with a tattoo needle.
so, who's next? they're still free for now.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:14, archived)

i'm scared!!!!!!!!

RUN AWAY!!!!!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!!

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:16, archived)

Eeep

The evil hairpic!!!!

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Bitchy Teresa is bitchy, duh., Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:17, archived)

i'll pass thanks...

unless you can do a nice b3ta one like this nice man :0) (REPOST)
reeeeeeeooowww

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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:19, archived)

happy

men in the bath tra la la la laaa

mucho woo-o

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:21, archived)

okely dokely.

tuesday ok for you?

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:22, archived)

eeek

*hides*

:0)

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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:24, archived)

so long

as it doesn't hurt at all.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:35, archived)

how odd!

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:26, archived)

Or this one!

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:34, archived)

Did you use Kallus's post

below? :)

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Collatallie Sisters, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:16, archived)

nice :D

you sure 'punished' him!
I'll have one :D

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Kallus speaks for the Spores, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:18, archived)

I haven't washed since you drew all over my arms

perhaps if you tattoed them on, I could.

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:19, archived)

Did you do a skull

because you can't have a furtive? ;)

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:21, archived)

ooh yes! yes!

and I'm going to give everyone in london a skull while they sleep too, as revenge! muahahahaaa! (I'm also selling chainmail pyjamas if you need protection from me)

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:28, archived)

Are you a professional tattooist?! That's so cool!

I want to get The Fear on my leg..that would be awesome..

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:21, archived)

I'm

gonna get domo tattooed to my flabby arm flesh

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:23, archived)

Then you would be

A Man Apart from His Leg due to the scarieness he faced everyday of seeing "THE FEAR"!

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Bitchy Teresa is bitchy, duh., Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:23, archived)

I don't think

doing one tattoo allows me to classify myself as professional just yet. I think I need to do at least 20 before I can ask for money. And 50 before I could ask for any decent amount. so sign up now for your cheap/free tattoo!
seriously though ~~crazy people~~ folks, I won't have a machine this trip, so I can't do any even for those crazy enough to let me. :( maybe next time I come. and besides, I'll be way better then.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:26, archived)

I'd let you do me, but I'm underage

and don't live in the UK anyway...

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:32, archived)

I forget

where you live...

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Artamnesia, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:57, archived)

I'm

surfing from your attic.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:21, archived)

i'm up for it!

not sure what i want though. you look very intellectual in that pose!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:21, archived)

probably the glasses

but thanks :)

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:26, archived)

I like the way the screensaver masquerades itself asa heartrate monitor oscilloscope

making you look like a doctor performing some minor surgery :)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:28, archived)

here it is

BIG

edit: heh. I just noticed that instead of a devil and an angel on my opposing shoulders I have a healthy mac and a sickly pc.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:30, archived)

rubbernipples.com?!

is this part of the grand 'zog body art' business plan?

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

hee hee!

yes!
it's a ren and stimpy reference actually. "excuuse me sahr? wood ju laik toh baiee sam raabber neeples?" not a very good ren accent, but you get me.

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:38, archived)

yah

let me show you what these babies can do!

night night

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:40, archived)

i'm staying where you're staying

so's i can get a skull!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

nice

Punisher logo(I used to be a comic/baseball shop owner)What's next,Wolverine?Spawn?

(idratherbebritish Nuke the U.S.!!!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:40, archived)

whatever people tell me to do that doesn't offend me...

but thanks. didja like the little sketchy outline? that was my little extra touch. :)

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:43, archived)

i want one

please

(TheTruffleShuffle, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:55, archived)

that is extremely cool

first time i've wanted one

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lemonhead, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:22, archived)

sporejuice, anyone?

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Kallus speaks for the Spores, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:13, archived)

Playing isketch

earlier, I had to do the word 'spore'. But I decided against trying to redraw one of your posts! :O)

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barnesy, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:16, archived)

Trolls

have kinda ruined it for now :(
We couldn't kick them out either :(

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Number_6, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:25, archived)

A sporejuice tattoo!!!!!!!!

aaaaaaaaaaaggggggghhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
keep running!!!!!!!!!

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:18, archived)

oh go on

*proffers wrist*

wooooooooooooooooooo!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:20, archived)

will it help me sleep?

will it give me super powers?

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:22, archived)

yes

and yes!

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Kallus speaks for the Spores, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:24, archived)

ooo! ooo!

what sort of powers?

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:30, archived)

super

ones!

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Kallus speaks for the Spores, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:33, archived)

super

dooper
para-trooper
ones?

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:37, archived)

Leon, with gratifying final frame as requested...

it's a little crap, but it's late.

(r0yksopp, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:00, archived)

that's the one

YAY :)

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:01, archived)

Excellent

for some reason I feel drawn to this post :)

(fak, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:17, archived)

they made the R102 extra long

click for bigger

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rogan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:58, archived)

Shock

and
awe.

Class as ALWAYS!

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EvS, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:05, archived)

Hahahahahaha!

Brilliant!

(Indole Ring, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:06, archived)

yes thats most woo yay 8D

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:07, archived)

hahahaha

that is excellent:)

w/y/h

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monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:17, archived)

wow

Evil Rainbow cat says:
meow

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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:20, archived)

hi cockalorum

I thoroughly approve of this woo-yay!

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:45, archived)

I do too

and I agree with it too!

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:13, archived)

woooooooo!

yaaaaaaay!

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Purple Martin is board sigless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:47, archived)

ahh... me like so much...

i made a real one... it's up there somewhere... :-)

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:58, archived)

Why is that not gracing the frontpage?

True, only fluffy animals and babies have been posted all day, but it's like an animal and it rules all!

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Artamnesia, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:00, archived)

*error* file_rogan.b3ta*error*

c:\frontpage

fatal error
frontpage limit exceeded

no further front pages possible

please restart b3ta

c:\
|_

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zog why change it now?, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 2:18, archived)

there are simply not enough

woos in the world

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littlebean, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 8:18, archived)

Soo

poib!

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MartinH, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 9:37, archived)

lovely stuff

comedy magic zeppelins.

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mozza, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 10:07, archived)

woo

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lemonhead, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 10:22, archived)

the humanity!

(b, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 14:47, archived)

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witchy is covered in BEES, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:56, archived)

hello and gnight

at the same time!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

'allo

spacefish :)

night witchy - knew I forgot something, sorry!

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

hello kitty

no, wait a minute. that's a japanese cartoon character. hello you!

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:02, archived)

purrrrr!

how are you?

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:14, archived)

all the better

for being purred upon =)

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:19, archived)

very good!

I really must be going. It is dusk.

*runs away*

*edit - I mean it, no more F5!!

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:27, archived)

noooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

don't do it, for the love of god!

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

skncno40409woilekmcskmcds aamkpokmitop4mp3o pmo34w mt3ogerh hnerds

fgnod 89 34non daa 0n;p lae3eaa

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

that's easy

for you to say.

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witchy is covered in BEES, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:58, archived)

is that

uber-l33t?

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:04, archived)

it's the matrix allowed to flow out

from my unthinking fingers.

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:07, archived)

404 cds mp3 nerds 4non

I see what you mean though..

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:08, archived)

when you run out

of your bedroom to fetch the gralic bread that is cooking in the oven downstairs- prompted by the odour- and yout hit your head on the four-poster bed that obstructs your passage as you scramble madly for the door, losing conciousness, you can hardly call this coherent, can you?

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:13, archived)

I call that

silly :)

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:15, archived)

gralic bread is a rare substance

not to be confused with garlic bread, which is bland by comparison

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:20, archived)

do you eat it

with pasghetty?

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:21, archived)

I am very close to a ledge everytime I go downstairs

If I were to ever get a growth spurt for some reason or wear high heels then I'd better watch out

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:24, archived)

I want to see

you wear high heels!

Go on, you know you want to!

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:26, archived)

how on earth

did you know i called it that?

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:27, archived)

oh wait, don't tell me

nuclear telescopes

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:27, archived)

I didn't

that's what I call it!

:)

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:28, archived)

doodeedoodoodoodeedoodoo

/close encounters

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:29, archived)

heheheh!

I'm going now, really, be back later...

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:30, archived)

ooh! ooh!

I got it, Fnord! Thanks for the heads up. I'll post it as soon as I manage to get the screen shot thing working....

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:08, archived)

nice stuff :)

I'm not really a numerophiliac you understand, it's just research for a book.
I got 20 20 19 19 and 20 20 20 :)
I didn't cap them though.

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:09, archived)

haha!

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:13, archived)

(spoken like a priest giving a sermon) "..and on the 20th second of the 20th minute of the 20th hour of the 20th day

kitty meow meow did view her profile....
..and it was good..."

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:15, archived)

I think I like this

better than celebrating post numbers.
After all, I mostly just post words...

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:17, archived)

anim.....

...ate..?

(nogber, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:59, archived)

night night

you evil bastard!

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:03, archived)

The Seven Deadly Squirrels: 1. Envy

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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:52, archived)

Is this.....

....a bandywagon i hear in the distance?

(w/y/h)

(nogber, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:58, archived)

I feel like a right slag asking here but...

I've trawled a bit of the archive to no avail - can any of you wonderous lot tell me how you do the thing where you can link to a picture and within the img src have some text to appear upon the picture? I believe it may be a php thing.

Thank-you muchly in advance.

(coldcoffee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:42, archived)

Dead easy

put alt="whatever" in the image tag
if that's what you're talking about

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A good man, and thorough, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:43, archived)

<img src="http://www.msncosimcheap.com/image.jpg" alt="this is where i gibber">

does the trick

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Pootle, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:43, archived)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:44, archived)

Fnord

FYI: The golf tournament to win the glasscock will be in October, although I think they change the trophy every year.

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:51, archived)

ah well,

maybe we can have a scuplting contest at the b3ta f3t3

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:55, archived)

Chainsaw glasscock

Ice sculpting?

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Pootle, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

I've booked my summer holiday when that's on!

Can't believe it, I knew something was on, just couldn't think what.

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:57, archived)

actually

I dunno if i'll make it.

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:59, archived)

Maybe this year it'll be a

glasscunt.

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Purple Martin is board sigless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:50, archived)

opera users

use alt="..." and title="..." because opera doesn't display alts...

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rogan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:45, archived)

You're absolutely right..

It's the only down side. Any idea why that is?
Seems like a fundamental error!..

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Collatallie Sisters, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:47, archived)

because alt is the text that should be displayed if an image isn't shown

(ie. alternative)
and title is the title of the picture that you are looking at

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spacefish bong!, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:56, archived)

Yes.

Opera is the only browser to do it correctly.

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Purple Martin is board sigless, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:51, archived)

ie displays title as well though

does it not? I thought alt had been abandoned in favour of title?

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:48, archived)

I think just title works

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:49, archived)

YAY

I can never see enough of that dog. Well done 100% Rogan! ;)

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:51, archived)

nope can't see nothin

in IE.
You probably need to do both, to cover everybody.
edit:Sorry, you get the title as a tooltip in IE, and the alt text while the picture loads/borks

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Pootle, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:52, archived)

works for me

i'm using ie 6 on win98

yes yes i know that's very old.

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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:54, archived)

I can

in IE 6.0.200000000000000000sdf00sdfhkjhfkas

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A good man, and thorough, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:54, archived)

the baord uses "title"

to display "I helped save b3ta" on the donation icons, so it must work in all formats.

I know by the way, don't shout, I'm unemployed :)

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:55, archived)

I can see it!

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100% kitten better than ever, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:55, archived)

not on the board, cal disabled it or disabled a load of stuff that happened to include it.

Alt is all that words on here i think.
Well last time I saw bananaman ranting about it it was ;)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:53, archived)

cal

turned it back on

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rogan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:07, archived)

woo for Cal! then

you an say what you like about Cal Rob and Pep...

because their name doesn't show up in an egospazz ;)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:11, archived)

Does.

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Collatallie Sisters, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:54, archived)

that doesn't work in all browsers...

i think you may have to use title="whatever" to get it to work on mozilla... i think...
edit: argh... b3tan to it and far more coherently...

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eclectech is older but no wiser, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:48, archived)

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witchy is covered in BEES, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:45, archived)

that!

is exactly what I was trying to describe, thanks. Thankyou to all y'all alt recommenders too.

(coldcoffee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:46, archived)

well...

Hmmm, looks like I've broken mine slightly somewhere along the way though! I've knocked th ealignment all to buggery. Ah well. It can be done in most webserver side languages. Some have used PHP, others ASP, and I've used perl. And I think flibz used coldfusion.

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barnesy, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:48, archived)

Ooh

I think the knocked alignment gives it charm and panache, so well done you. I'm impressed, frankly.

(coldcoffee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:53, archived)

can you make the blank sign

in the background say something?

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:55, archived)

that was discussed

back when this one first appeared. The answer is easy: yes of course, it's possible. But you'd not fit much on there. This one was only ever a prototype anyway.

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barnesy, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:00, archived)

a picture then

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:03, archived)

yeah

The perl thingy I used to do it (Imagemagick) is pretty powerful - it can do a lot of the things a desktop package can do but on the webserver (convert, crop, resize, merge images, add text, filters, generate animations, and so on).

This thing is one of the many project type things I never seem to get back to so I can push it as far as the ideas I have for it have gone!

edit - just read back that last sentence. It lost grammatical integrity somewhere. Ah well, I'll take that as my 'go to bed' cue!

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barnesy, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:14, archived)

night

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kitty meow meow, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 1:20, archived)

or if you're taking about

a kins of spech bubble, where you can add the required text to the URL and the speech bubble comes out with said text?

Yes it's a php thig. I don't know how it's done, but you can make your own in m3ss3ng3r thanks to the genius of Flibz.

*edit* and Witchy does very nice ones too ;)*/edit*

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:46, archived)

hmm

Though sadly the Make Yer Own link doesn't appear to be working at the moment. It's as if I'm *plagued*, it really is.

(coldcoffee, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:49, archived)

Another in the leon series....i can't stop now :D

holler if you want sound.

(r0yksopp, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:38, archived)

yes, sound please

and a gratifying final frame would be nice :)

Excellent stuff.

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:41, archived)

yay!

that rocks! yay to psycho kittens!

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mrRush, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:42, archived)

Heavens to Betsy!

Optimising this cat took longer than making it.

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A good man, and thorough, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:34, archived)

cats make excellent parachutists

it's their flexibility during the "snap" phase.

woo

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supermoore: HUNG, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:36, archived)

and don't hamsters dislocate all their joints if they fall from a height

'little bag of bones stayed out all night'

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Wildheart Baby. Drunken Mess In A Good Way, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:40, archived)

wow

nicely done!

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rogan, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 0:44, archived)

Spooky

I've been thinking of making that exact animation for weeks now, I've just not had the time to do a full version so I made the one on here instead www.matazone.co.uk/kittencommandos.html

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Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 10:22, archived)

Hmm

blocked by the work filter, category "sex"...

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A good man, and thorough, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 11:29, archived)

Got home and checked it out

Doubt you'll read this, but nice work.
Gos knows why the stupid work filter flagged it as a sex site!

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A good man, and thorough, Wed 9 Apr 2003, 23:33, archived)

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