Continuing my little theme.
NSFW
Hang gliding.
Nothing of interest here, nothing at all.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:56, Reply)
Look at the man when he's talking to you!
Damnit!
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IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:21,
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We've been here before...
Brilliant article illustrating that for well over 100 years the press, politicians and other opinionated gimps have been spouting their take on the moral apocalypse (as evinced by music, gangs, riots & criminality) to anyone who's unfortunate enough to clap their eyes on it. Daily Mail comment from 1951 a particular gem.
Apologies for abrupt change in direction from slo-mo bewbies.
Some good stuff in the new Private Eye also.
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Colonel Bimble pluck my sums, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:46,
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ZIS ChANGE OF ZE DIRECTION VILL NOT BE TOLERATED!!!
vimeo.com/23672369
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:54, Reply)
She should meet up with this fellow
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pl4plPGRG8o
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Colonel Bimble pluck my sums, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:05,
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An excellent piece.
Strange how the cause of many of the problems aren't being perpetrated by those commenting. Also, a lot of 'Blame it on black people' in the last century.
*Edit* Forget what I just wrote, SEXY WEDNESDAY'S FOR THE WIN!
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Funkenschlag still likes dogs more than cats, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:03,
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Not good for blood pressure
Always nice to have the usual talking heads put in perspective, but also makes me even less tolerant of having to listen to/see their bandwagoning drivel.
I am going to hide in a cottage on the Isle of Islay and drink whisky for a week in the hope that the buggers have found something else to bleat on about by the time I next read a paper.
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Colonel Bimble pluck my sums, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:11,
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Gliding in Switzerland.
Sorry for lack of arse slapping.
Edit: this one at least has some blokes knobbly knees vimeo.com/27641340
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:44, Reply)
I'd quite like to do that right now please
awesome
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Just Juan Cornetto will take you to the lo-rider show n' flaunt ya on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:11,
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Possibly the Best Ad for Anything Ever!
another contribution for what I like to call: 'Sexy Wednesday'.
GC can do one.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:44, Reply)
That were verreh sexeh. I like.
If its sexy wednesday, then check out my new pic that i just added:
cghub.com/images/view/157427/
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:50,
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Aww man
That's as lully as the french chick in the cafe.
Can't wait until you master physics (in particular mammarian physics animation)
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zacherynuk @echo off, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:54,
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Ding dong!
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:58,
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sorry, but I'm going to have to crack one off at work now.
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JamTallons, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:29,
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Dont apologise to me :-)
The boss might have something to say about it though...
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:32, Reply)
Terrible. She wasn't even making the effort to play properly. And so unfit. Hits the ball a couple of times and has to lean against the wall to catch her breath?
Is this the best we can expect of today's atheletes?
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 13:03,
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Knockers > Sporting ability.
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Kerrisis There's someone in my head, but it's not me., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:18,
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directed?
really? Wonder what the motivation was... ;)
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dysonology "You get an 'ology', you're a scientist!", Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:41,
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Chick plays Hendrix
I love seeing this sort of thing. A normal looking girl plays epic Hendrix, making it look easy all the way. Sound's a bit off but there you go, it's from a live local festival or something. Just enjoy.
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:42,
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can someone explain to me why no one has heard of this band
and yet everyone knows who jedward are?
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mutated monty, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:00,
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^this^
fuck talent, here's INYOURFACE
you reminded me, Mark Gatiss retweeted something from Jedward the other day, something along the lines of "Windows aren't just for looking out of, they're for people to look in too, to see all the amazing stuff you've got" (but obviously entirely in capitals with worse grammar)
I imagine they thought they were being really deep and not just offensively materialistic
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:30,
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super !
She is awsome;
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dwwah_t1xw;
this is another clip of the same song, but in very high quality hd and I think from an even better set, if you google her on you tube ,then thats the rest of your day done for.love her. Like you say , dont know how she's not been "Discovered". She played fleetwood marine hall a couple of weeks ago ffs!............We should start a campaign.....proper skill.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 13:53, Reply)
and that one's only had about 350 views. No justice :(
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 17:08,
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Here's a different tune with a few more hits, from her own channel
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBp53TdYvQI
still, she's criminally overlooked.
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RedHouse over yonder, Thu 18 Aug 2011, 4:50,
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sigh.....
... makes bonfire out of guitar and amp and remaing gear, trudges away, changes mind, comes back and throws self onto fire
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damaged goods so little time, so many targets, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 14:24,
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ACE!
Wotta band!
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Squilliam but . . . . *I'm* the one with all the talent!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 19:55,
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She's playing my tune!
In the past year I've watched a dozen clips of Chantel playing this song, and I love every one.
Oh, and "normal looking"? She's a whole lotta woman! www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwqjIH2eJ4M If all the girls look like her where you live, then book me a ticket!
If my baby don't love me no more, I know her sister will!
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RedHouse over yonder, Thu 18 Aug 2011, 4:45,
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Never Mind The Bollocks - SORRY ABOUT THE COCKS
Quite possibly the finest apology ever written - Kunt's cocks get him into trouble...
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emvee cruor deo cruoris, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:42,
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Huge office lol
An explanation is now required as to why. Quick, tell me a joke
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:31,
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Choice quote:
"The same night I received a visit at my venue from Edinburgh Council Environmental Dept. who told us that they had spent the day pulling off over a hundred cocks"
Superb
(, Thu 18 Aug 2011, 2:28, Reply)
Amazing Bottom Slap
Related to RBF's post below, I thought I'd post it as a new link so you could appreciate the preview image.
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:30,
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Apparently the model's name is Lola
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:54,
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link is tenuous...
but i couldn't care less.
hang on... the song lola is about a tranny
WTF?!!?!?!?
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:54, Reply)
Sorry for two in a row, but you know...
there is something about this video that's quite, compelling. Cant really put my finger on it though? Any idea?
I didnt even realise until the second watch that there is Van Morrison playing in the back ground.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:08, Reply)
She is skipping..IN HIGH HEELS?!?
She is going to do herself an injury.
/female response
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:44,
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Thats what I couldnt put my finger on,
the chance of her causing herself a mischief!
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:58, Reply)
DefdFires - new vid old tune
NSFW
these guys are awesome, givem sum luv innit nsfw due to swears
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Bishop Yozz remembers when lily savage advertised oasis..., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:07,
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The Last Circus
NSFW
This looks fucking fantastic, tagged nsfw just in case for sexy and violences
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:03,
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They had me at magnets.
Im getting a bit weary of the whole 'dark circus' thing, but it does look quite intresting.
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:10,
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It is indeed a cracking film, well worth a watch
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The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:10,
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Even watching that with no sound
that looks highly watchable
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Jahled Three shades of black, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:14,
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BAM!
Straight to the top of the list of films I can never watch with my girlfriend.
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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Wed 17 Aug 2011, 19:51,
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weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - splat!
That would be my luck.
I was going to join the parachuting club when I was at Uni, but had broken my leg the summer before, so my knee wouldn't have been up to it. Joined the gliding club instead - was good fun.
Sorry for turning this into QOTW.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:58, Reply)
That's alright, I suppose.
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:06,
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Woo!
That's lovely that is.
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:16,
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I can never get vimeo stuff to play without being all stuttery, but from what I could see, that is beautiful.
although I wonder if it's partly clever effects. I mean, you can see the curvature of the earth in some parts yet they're not wearing pressure suits/oxygen masks.
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:17,
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They're Australian,
they are far too hard for such life saving equipment.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:21, Reply)
and it reminds me of this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrBZeWjGjl8
which has footage of Joe Kittinger's Project Excelsior skydive from 1960 which still holds the skydiving altitiude record
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:23,
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yes. that's an artifact
Those must be "normal" (?) launches from abt 4.000 feet.
The surreal effect is given by a strong lens distortion and by the video being slowed down.
at 0:10, for example, you see the trousers waving in the wind. In real life, they shake as hell.
And no plane would be able to take the so high :-)
Very nice shots, anyway!
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frox, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 13:46,
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Beautiful water art
This is an ad for BDDP Unlimited and Solidarités International about war and dirty water but the artwork that goes with it is beautiful.
It's very quiet on here this morning...Is everyone on holiday or working?
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:29,
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That is nice.
It is quiet isn't it?
I'm only here for 10 minutes as I'm going on holiday and have shed loads to do before I go :)
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Blackdogmanguitar is out with Fat Larry's Jazz Band on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:50,
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Have a lovely holiday!
*envies* I have to wait until October before we go away on holiday :(
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:06,
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Where the UK leads....
'Flash Mobs' looting in the USA.
Report from CNN.
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:52,
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When I was growing up in Newcastle
This was called 'Steaming'. It's not new or clever, nor does it require 'the evil internet'.
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zacherynuk @echo off, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:00,
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What? There was a world before the internet?
Lies! ;)
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:01,
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I think these started before the UK ones.
but the report I saw mentioned a curfew for all people under a certain age.
Not a bad idea IMO.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:09,
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I think you're right
Certainly the under 16s and maybe even under 18s in problem areas. Mind you I live right out in the sticks so none of the kids around here hang around outside - there are so few of them anyway.
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chickenlady b3ta's very own Elizabeth Taylor, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:11,
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I'm sure the Tea Party in America will find a way to ban the internet. They're crackers enough to.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:29, Reply)
lol
"...Mayor Nutter..."
:D
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account88888 former cynic, converted to kindness, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:24,
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maybe theyre just violent T-mobile adverts?
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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:10,
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Was looking for something else...
...on YouTube and somehow this thing started playing. If there's one person who shouldn't be using high-voltage tesla coils, it's probably him. Video is 9 mins long but you'll see what i mean after about 5 seconds. I think the coil might have recently zapped him...
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Fray Brentos *mega-belms*, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:47,
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It's Brundlefly
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:25,
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Maybe...
it was just trying to loot that box of Nike trainers?
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:07,
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Haha!
I love this!
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Herb Alpert's Taxi Driver I have very beautiful lips, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:02,
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Proof if proof were needed
that last one wasn't faked.
Just something else weird we now know cats can do thanks to the intertubes...
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:09,
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lols!!
I want to train my cat to do this! I hope loads more of these videos start surfacing and so we can see a nice "hunch cat" mix :)
(, Thu 18 Aug 2011, 11:57, Reply)
oooh oooh! I found another!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYY02DVlOZQ&feature=feedbul
@ 5:39
(, Thu 18 Aug 2011, 12:58, Reply)
4 years for trying to incite a riot on facebook. Too harsh?
Got to say i'm conflicted on this one. Whilst I believe a more authoritarian response is in order
4 years seems a bit steep.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:03,
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Depends...
It could be seen as an excuse to get rid of the twats the police have had an eye on locally for ages but unable to get a decent conviction.
Though, if deemed unfair and overly harsh, it could mean that next time those participating may deem it as a nothing to lose last stand affair; rather than pottering home to their beds when it rains.
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zacherynuk @echo off, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:14,
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For the record,
Neither of the people convicted had any prior convictions.
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IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:35,
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I think it's ok
as long as the arsonists and assault/muggers also get sentences as long as can be given out.
Oh, and anyone parked by a meter for more than 2 days without topping it up should get their burnt out car clamped.
But I suspect it will never be a fair unbiased system so ambiguities will always happen.
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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:42,
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Maybe they shouldn't be stupid kids.
Now they are forever condemned to the jobless scrapheap at the bottom of our society. Anyone who knows even the slightest about criminology will tell you that prison is effectively the university of crime: go in as an amateur and come out as a professional.
Nice one legal system! Two more career criminals for privatised prison services to make a tidy sum off of over the next 20-40 years (at taxpayers' expense).
Fuck anyone who thinks this is a good idea. Fuck them in the face.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:06, Reply)
Exactly!!
My idea of smashing their finger bones with a hammer is cheap, quick and excruciatingly painful. It also means that they would not have to go to prison and avoid all the stuff you pointed out.
Maybe give them the choice though so that they can play a role in their own rehabilitation process. Let them choose fingers or toes to be smashed, in any combination.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:14, Reply)
MESSAGE FROM THE POLICE:
YOU ARE INCITING GRIEVOUS BODILY HARM ON THE INTERNETS! YOU MUST BE PUNISHED! 10 YEARS IN THE NICK FOR YOU SONNY JIM...wait, B3ta is anonymous...this might require some technical proficiency to investigate...fuck it.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:24, Reply)
true
although from what I've read, nothing happened...so in effect they've been sent to prison for inciting an event that didn't happen. I've read a lot of stuff on facebook that can be taken the same way, will certainly be food for thought. 'storm the parliament if they close hospital x' etc etc. I've had loads of invites to imaginary events in the last year which are just protest pages (I'm not comparing that to their page at all) but if I lived in England I'd be reluctant to click 'attending' on some of them now...
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:10, Reply)
Exactly. How about political activist groups like UKuncut or environmentalists?
A lot of what they do falls foul of some archaic law, and it is on this basis that they are generally arrested at or after their protests (while the CPS almost always throws the case out because it won't stand up in court).
Will it be incitement to express a desire to stage a protest? Where do they draw the line?
Our country marching at pace towards a very dark future. All of the people whose response to the riots was "OMG BANG EM UP! THA ANIMALS!" or "[insert reactionary garbage driven by fear/hatred here]" are metaphorically holding hands and skipping along with the stern police officer and smug politician (who thinks you're all idiots, don't prove him right) that are leading us there.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:20, Reply)
I feel like you've missed the distinction
between a protest and a riot. Organizing a bunch of your mates to make a political point is within the law. Organizing a bunch of your mates to go smash stuff up and nick things isn't.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:33,
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Then again sometimes the line gets blured
A lot of protests these days end up smashing stuff up as if
they think this is the natural order for a protest.
So if this sets a precedent someone creating a FB page encouraging people
to smash up fortnum and masons would be subject to the same punishment.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:02,
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No. My point is that law makes no distinction between the two, depending on how it is applied.
Especially when there is pressure from the Home Office to "make an example" and "send a message that this sort of behaviour won't be tolerated".
See here: www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/24/uk-uncut-fortnum-mason-police
In fact, the riots in Tottenham started as a political protest, in spite of what they became on the following nights in Hackney et al.
The G20 protests were called "riots" too, but they were purely political, the same goes for the student's tuition protests. Both were met with politically motivated policing tactics that were disproportionately harsh. It can be a very fine line.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:05, Reply)
Surely the line is when you put down the placard and pick up a brick?
Just because you're doing it out anger towards a policy doesn't
negate the fact that smashing stuff up is against the law.
A protest is supposed to change things by either gathering enough
of the people behind you so come an election you can vote out the cunts.
Or make said cunts afraid of being voted out at the next election they
change now in the hope you'll vote for them again.
Just because you call something a protest does not excuse you from acting within the law.
Also, No socialist worker banner = Not a protest.
Didn't see one banner during these events.
[edit]
As a case in point. Let's bring up the BNP, NF EDL etc.
Now they would much rather this country was a little whiter.
Would it be an acceptable protest if they were to travel to an area and smash in shops owned my non-whites? Or burn down the houses of refugees?
In their head it's a protest.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:52,
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I'm not going to dispute the difference between rioting and protesting, nor am I going to defend people who wilfully cause harm to other people.
You are correct in your distinction. But I will say this:
The article I linked to should demonstrate how the authorities are prepared to manipulate existing laws to punish political protesters, especially non-violent protesters, in an effort to prevent future protest.
What I'm trying to say is this: If they can put you down for 4 years for advocating a riot that never took place, how long before they extend that principle and lock up political activists who call for or suggest a protest, such as the Fortnum & Masons occupation, on the pretext that what they are advocating may break a law?
On legal grounds there isn't a distinction between motivations.
So if I said "we should occupy the TopShop on Oxford Street because billionaire owner Phillip Green pays less tax than me" on Facebook I could be arrested for 'inciting people to break the law'. Which law? Something like a 'public order offence' or 'Breach of the Queen's Peace' which is generally what political activists get locked up for.
This isn't too much of a stretch of either the imagination or the legal precedent that this case has set. How hard is that to grasp?
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 13:58, Reply)
Well if your occupying a building against the wishes of the owner then you are breaking the law.
What you have to ask yourself is if you believe in the cause enough to take the punishment.
Also you site the example of the F&M "occupation". That was miles away from the violent protests
the these two were convicted of trying to provoke. The police would probably use the law to
get the FB page taken down though not likely to earn you a 4 year span.
I don't get this generation with their attitude to direct action. The Animal Liberation Front never expected
to be let off if they were caught. The hunger strikers never expected last minute medical intervention.
You believe in a cause enough you decide to act outside of the law then bear in mind two things.
1) Be prepared to get caught and do the time knowing that it is worth it.
2) Hope that the public sympathise with you and vote along those lines encourage by your example.
Do not hijack someone else's protest march that they bothered to organise and set out an agreed route.
Do not break the law expecting daddies lawyer to sort everything out as it's just jolly japes.
And remember just because it's a left wing protest don't expect to be treated any lighter than if it were a rightwing one. To give a mirror image of your F&M occupation. What if the EDL started occupying mosques?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 15:48,
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I'm not saying it's wrong
Just replying to Zachery's point.
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IHaveABadFeelingAboutThis most likely working from home on, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:45,
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As long as that sentence is allowed under the relevant legislation (Public Order Act 86 presumably) then I don't have a problem with it.
the fact that it was on facebook is irrelevant. if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
edit: found guilty of an offence under s.44 and s.46 Serious Crime Act (which replaced the common law offence of 'incitement'). Under s.44:
44 Intentionally encouraging or assisting an offence
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he does an act capable of encouraging or assisting the commission of an offence; and
(b)he intends to encourage or assist its commission.
Under s.58 of the Serious Crime Act, the sentence for a person guilty of a crime under s.44 is the same as that of the offence which is incited, in this case s.1 Public Order Act which carries a maximum prison sentence of 10 years or a fine or both. So you could say they got off lightly.
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:16,
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I know what you mean.
One one hand they are utter twats for doing it and deserve to be punished, on the other a four year sentence seems a bit too hard. I'm guessing that the sentence will get reduced on appeal to about two years, then they will do about one year each but that will get reduced if they behave themselves.
I am still seriously convinced by my idea that they should have all the bones in their fingers smashed by a hammer.
There's a good debate about punishing the rioters V's punishing the naughty MP's on 5 Live right now.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:17, Reply)
I was thinking about the reduction on appeal then good behavior.
Whilst it's against human rights to force prisoners to work or train you could get rid of the
good behavior reduction and replace it with a scheme that you can earn time off your sentence
through study or work if you choose.
At the moment you can get your sentance halved by lying on your bunk and keeping your nose clean but
completely avoiding and rehabilitation.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:08,
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It's just like Minority Report! :D
it does sound ridiculous, but without knowing the facts (was it a detailed plan they had worked out, would lives be at risk, was it basically a terrorist plot) we can only assume it was "lol lets meet up and riot" and be rightly appalled at the sentencing
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:18,
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I'd wondered about that
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-14551582 sheds some light
Does seem a lot for being a bit of a knob
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:23,
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hmmm didn't know sedition carried up to a 10 year sentence
but surely the maximum would be applicable after the event when you could judge how badly it went. It being a non event would be a community order surely?
but as speshulknees says if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:30,
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Or at least, do it somewhere other than Cheshire
iccheshireonline.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews//tm_headline=runcorn-litterbug-handed-hefty-fine-in-court%26method=full%26objectid=29244834%26siteid=50020-name_page.html
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:45,
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silly cow for not turning up to court/contesting it
but I have no sympathy if it was a rural location on a hot day, them fields do catch fire remarkably easily.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:08,
Reply)
fair fine
especially as she had 3 reminders to pay the fixed fine first.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:39, Reply)
Shame it was facebook
or I could have made a joke about it being the longest ever sentence on twitter.
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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:25,
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Thanks.
The judge ordered they get a 4 year sentence, the longest in twitter history, but that it could be reduced if they use bit.ly
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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:46,
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Not sure.
5 months for accepting a pair of shorts was too harsh though.
I think it is important to remember that sentences are not punishments.
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LordManley twitter.com/LordManley, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:40,
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You could save the prison population and just give them a 5 year not allowed on facebook sentence
If they breach it they get banned from twitter too.
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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:49,
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BURN HIM!!
I dunno, they need to show when folks do shit like this it wil be dealt with HARD, give it a year tho they'll all have them reduced.
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:48,
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Well, this seems to be going slightly better than when I said it was too harsh
and got called a 'mong cunt'.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:03,
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I'm part of a clique? Do I get a badge?
If it was on /talk then I've never had a positive reaction to any post on /talk.
They're a bit odd over there...
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:56,
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They probably spell it 'click' over there
or something or nothing...
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:03,
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Lucky you!
I bet it was someone from /talk. They are all paedophiles though.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:16, Reply)
Yuck..
I do believe that we have to send out a really strong message but 4 years is a bit OTT. 2 years - I could agree with that.
Christ knows what they would have got if there actually had been a riot. Life, probably.
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:06,
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10 years maximum for inciting actual violence I just read
so yes, very harsh for a non event.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:10,
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I know, one guy's been charged with murder
and all he did was kill a guy, www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-14541954 honestly, complete over reaction or WHAT!?
;)
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:22,
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I think there is some confusion going on again
Going back to the 4 years Legless, it just struck me that this is actually quite a strong message to all the people who did organise the riots, who will no doubt see this story and may think twice.
still not fair on the kids who set up a non event facebook page
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:28,
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Agreed, this is surely a hard punishment that will send out a message to da yoof in da ghetto.
Two young kids will get fucked up and may well go on to commit real crimes, but who really gives a shit about them.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:34, Reply)
Just pullin ya chain again Toasty
yeh I think they're just tryin to show a strong tough reaction, esp after all the kids interviewed and all the facebook quotes about 'What they gonna do, they can't touch us, even if they send us down the prisons are full or like hotels n stuff n shit' etc showing they feel the law, prisons and police are all soft as shit on youth here and don't feel they have anything to fear.
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:37,
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ah, that's the confusion
we were talking about the 2 kids who hadn't been in the riots or committed previous offences, but were just guilty of setting up a facebook page. There's no certainty that the even would have happened, but they are still doing 4 years, which is a lot less than most rapists.
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HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:41,
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It's an interesting change in events
up till recently anything said online was always seen as 'not counting', but it's pretty obvious now that regardless of the media used the point is it's affecting people and things in real life, I think the law is waking up to the fact it's gonna hafta start treating stuff done and said online just as seriously as a group sitting in a room organising crime in the streets, esp if that's exactly what they're attempting to organise.
We may all have to start thinking about what we write and do online as seriously as we would what we would say and do in public.
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..wil, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:48,
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Hangonaminutehere!
Kids? They're 21 and 22 years old.
Thats way past the growing hair in funny places squeaking voice stage.
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:59,
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'just guilty of setting up a facebook page'? that's not what they were found guilty of is it?
at least, luckily, no-one was stupid enough to act on it, it appears, but it makes no odds, they attempted to start a riot.
would it have been any different if they'd been giving out leaflets?
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:03,
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This is purely conjecture and opinion
but I think it may actually be different if they were handing out leaflets, yes. And I'd probably be more comfortable with the sentence too.
Handing out leaflets takes effort, planning and money. The mere fact of doing it is much more of a statement of intent than any half arsed idiot being able to set up a FB page in 30 seconds flat. I'd be a lot more inclined to take these idiots seriously if they were standing on the streets pushing pieces of paper with times and dates and messages on into people's hands.
As it is, and I don't know their motives of course, two people who were already likely to struggle to achieve anything in life have now been turned over to the hands of a failing prison system that is going to fuck them over good and proper for what could well be no more than a fleeting moment of stupidity.
Edit: Sorry, I've just realised it looks like I am following you around responding only to your points, that wasn't intentional, it just happens that your posts have been the ones that have inspired my thoughts.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:13,
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well that's alright then, we'll tell the EDL to stick to facebook and they'll be ok
edit: reply away, there would no point either of us posting if you didn't would there? :)
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:19,
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Well I think that over simplifes my point somewhat
It comes back to taking each case on it's merits. If there was a coordinated, organised effort by the EDL to incite violence using FB that's still different to giving a computer to two moron's and ending up with a shitty but ultimately ineffective one off FB group.
I should say again, I'm not arguing that legal action should not have been taken, I just feel quite strongly that locking two people up for four years for stupidity isn't right, sets a dangerous precedent and is abusing the law to set an example.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:26,
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I would reply to this but I will end up never leaving the house today if this goes on which is a waste of a day off.
and anyway we both have our opinions on this - whether the sentence is too harsh is probably quite subjective anyway.
but thank you for the discussion :)
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:38,
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Funny, I was going to say the same to you.
We were never going to agree, but it was nice to be able to discuss it without anger or abuse following.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:29,
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You're Right
Sometimes, an example has to be made to deter others who were thinking of doing the same thing.
It just sucks when you're the example.
Two kids lives are probably ruined but, next time round, people are going to think twice about doing this on the Internet.
Another way of thinking about this is they only got 6 months for inciting a riot but got an extra three and half years for being dumb enough to post this on their traceable facebook page.
Cheers
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:45,
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That's dangeous too though
the law isn't there to set examples, it should treat every case on it's own merits, not external factors.
If the law itself is too leniant/harsh that's a different issue.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:51,
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^This^
When Eric Cantona was initially jailed for attacking that Palace fan the judge stated that he was making an example of him because of who he was. The sentence didn't survive the appeal as the law is supposed to treat each case on the merits of the crime committed.
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:56,
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I say why not make them prove their way out.
4 years or 10 GCSE B or higher and a vocational qualification, whichever comes first.
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zacherynuk @echo off, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:26,
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That's
The best idea I've heard in ages!
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Legless Mister Stabby - shanks for the memory, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:36,
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it doesn't matter that it was a 'non-event', they're still guilty of the offence as charged.
if you don't want legislation for incitement then you have to accept that some EDL prick will be legally entitled to start a facebook group calling on people to 'burn out the pakis' or something.
(If these two lads were EDL members and their facebook page was racially motivated, I wonder what the response would be from some of those complaining about the sentences?)?
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:31,
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I'm not convinced that anyone has argued that they are not guilty of the offence
just that the sentence is harsh in relation to the severity of the crime.
We are in a situation where justice is being replaced by punishment and that's a dangerous road to be on.
But what do I know, I'm a mong cunt.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:41,
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they could have got 10 years
(assuming the crime they were guilty of inciting is Riot)
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:44,
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I know what they could have got
but that doesn't bear any relation to whether 4 years is harsh or not.
Edit: Just seen your second point about what the reaction would be if it was EDL. I confess that I would probably find it harder to get as annoyed about, but that wouldn't neccessarily make the sentencing any less wrong, it would just need to find different voices than to mine to argue the case. And yes, that's my hypocrisy and one that I can live with.
Although the racial aspect is actually allowed for in law, so by definition the harsher sentence could be argued to be more valid anyway. So it would depend if they were explicitly inciting racial violence or not.
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scarpe We Stole Bikes, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:45,
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They'll only actually do 2 years inside though won't they (assuming it doesn't get reduced on appeal)
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pixel_fucker is going to need a bigger brush, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:47,
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Harsh, but fair.
If the sentences given were namby-pamby community service orders and ASBOs, what would stop people doing the same thing in a few months time or whenever there is a genuine demonstration?
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:02,
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Cat lick on ya girl....Katy Perry remix....
Witness the birth of a new viral!! The original vid is here just to give this some context: www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZffTZ-Qc-JU .
Oh, and the most important bit. The lyrics for those who want to sing along:
I'm gonna schedule on the Lego
you meet, in my Jeep. Mmmp
and while it's God on the stereo
nnnnyou can trample the wer-urld
uht nuttin' comes close to the golden clothes
Watch your Bollywood luh-umps
uhn your body in love
Oh, oh, oh, oh oh
Cat lick on ya girl
we're un denettable
D. Z. Duke
B. Keen is on top
Sunkist in't so hot
so Macho Machico
(Orgasm interlude)
Cat lick on ya girl
we're undeniavle
Fine fresh beer
we got it, a lot!
West coast in ye-ye
Now put your hands up!
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:31, Reply)
there are parts of that where it looks like he's trying to squeeze one out
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spesh., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:27,
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DO NOT WATCH AT WORK - NSFW
NSFW
Woman offers to be interviewed about bilingualism in Canada. The interview takes place on the street. She says a few words, mentions that she is a bit high, then does something rather odd...
Please don't watch at work unless your boss is tolerant.
EDIT: And she is amazingly beautiful.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 7:46, Reply)
its funy but its GC sadly
not that its not worth seeing again, for teh sexee lady
/grabs mind bleach
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Fire & Forget it's the only way to be sure, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:17,
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GC get tae FUCK!
Fucking GC adherents can self immolate for all I care.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:21, Reply)
hahahahahaha
you sound like an angry weegie told there is no more Buckie
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Fire & Forget it's the only way to be sure, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:22,
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Why mention that it might be GC??
I thought calling GC had stopped when all the new people calmed down after their initial excitement at being on b3ta. You've been on here for almost seven years now, of course most things on the Internet have been seen by you already.
Yes this is a rant, yes I'm a cunt.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:27, Reply)
HA!
You caught me out, I'm just off to post some rubbish in reply to that 4 years in jail link above. Byeeeeeeee.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:12, Reply)
And without checking the link, I'm guessing she shows her minge which is as lusturous as Peter Suttcliffe's beard.
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Monty Propps, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:19,
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it was when I watched it about 5 years ago,
looks like she has kept it trimmed in the interim
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Fire & Forget it's the only way to be sure, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:30,
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Bloody el, there's some broad minded girls in Canada!
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:23,
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Brilliant
It's the reaction of the interviewer/crew that made it for me
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TownsendsPublisher is all gravy baby, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:20,
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I don't know what's worse.
Her, or the pervy comments from chubby chasers that want to ask her out. Fucking hell.
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Bats, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:38,
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New Toothpaste tube design
why isn't this being used right now, RIGHT NOW
IN MY MOUTH
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KittyWaste lives at Sleepingplanet.com, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 7:43,
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The problem I have with that is the volume squeezed out
It looks like a thin strip - fine for the large toothbrush style in the picture, but for the small round electric brush (or children's brush) you won't get enough paste out in one covering, and double-layering it could easily lead to a sticky mess.
I'm not convinced the sliding cap would provide enough of a seal against evaporation either - the paste musn't lose its moisture or it will solidify inside the container.
And I'm not sure, but I can't see how they're avoiding the issue of leaving paste inside the container - the design looks just as susceptible to creasing and folding (and being angular, gives more spaces for paste to hide in) as the existing cylindrical containers.
Still, always nice to see new thinking on consumer packaging!
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:05, Reply)
that's quite good, that is
i really hope it was invented in a shed.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:05, Reply)
I was expecting something cock shaped... maybe i've been here too long?
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Cerebus Sticky! Sticky! Stick! Stick!, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 8:48,
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As one of the comments points out...
I love the design, but it will never fly. The manufacturers want you to waste toothpaste. Having 5% left in the tube, means you need to buy 5% more toothpaste. But it is even worse than that. Rumor has it, that some punk earned a cool million selling the idea of increasing the size of the opening from 5 to 6 mm. This increases the flow rate by about 40% and increased sales by over 20%. Now most of the manufacturers have a larger opening to encourage wasting toothpaste. A nice flat opening allows one to easily use less toothpaste while still getting enough to effectively clean teeth. The savings from packaging efficiencies will never make up for the losses in product sales.
Until things change, always spread a thin coating of toothpaste on your brush instead of squirting a “sausage” of toothpaste as the ads show. This will do the most to save your toothpaste, money and packaging.
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mr.dogshit The world's premier anthropomorphic canine faeces, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 9:44,
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I swear I've seen a little plastic key thing you can buy
you attach it to the bottom of the tube, then roll it up as you go rather than squeezing and you get every last little bit of paste out.
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pixel_fucker is going to need a bigger brush, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 12:00,
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Its no good as it requires movement to shut it afterwards.
My wife still wouldn't close the bloody thing.
www.b3ta.com/questions/annoyingpartners/post1307706
I however, like it, a lot. *click*
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NooShmoo It's a fantazmagorical pile of ultra bollocks, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 19:27,
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Thing on a Spring music
One of the best C64 tunes in my opinion.
Looks like everyone's gone to bed!
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 1:28, Reply)
Great stuff!
It's catchy and I can whistle it too. *click*
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jonbob loves you, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 1:45,
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T'is catchy, indeed!
Never heard of the game before.
But still think Fairlight had the most memorable tune for it's time.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjgWaBOUAKU
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 3:56, Reply)
No, no.
Sir Rob Hubbard was the master of the 8 bit tune, followed closely by Martin Galway.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 6:47, Reply)
absolutely
and this is one of his best, Sanxion!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=It7yJh-NwPY
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:48, Reply)
/\ This.
Rob Hubbard is a genius. I still think Commando on the C64 is one of the best 8 bit tunes ever!
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:20, Reply)
Not as catchy as this though
Bought this in around 1982 and still remember the bloody music...arghhh.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia-OqGtmpCk&feature=related
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slartifartfast When all around are losing their heads, duck., Wed 17 Aug 2011, 10:33,
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Ha! The good old Dragon 32.
I remember me and my older bro used to play Gumshoe on this system.
(, Wed 17 Aug 2011, 11:21, Reply)
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