just out or interest, are you a democrat or a republican?
I'm assuming you're american.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:55,
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You know, it's funny
even though I haven't bothered with it in years, whenever I look at the clock around this time of day, I always involuntarily think "Oops, missing The Simpsons"
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:03,
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Missing The Simpsons is probably a wise idea these days
After their majestic early to mid-90s period it's saddening to see new empty episodes just rumbling out for no real reason :(
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:10,
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I don't think it's on on Sundays anyway
plus I don't have a TV.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:12,
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Well I would have done
but I'm in a ground floor flat so it would be a bit of an anti-climax
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:19,
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But he's not actually taking the viagra
That's a two-tone blue tablet... THE BACKGROUND IS MISLEADING!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:07,
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Actually, I'd say it's a two-tone blue capsule
maybe amphetamine
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:15,
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I think it's more likely to be Popeamine, or some kind of Popiate.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:16,
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We need Hedgehog's expertise as a licenced drug-dealer for this.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:19,
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In which case I think he's missed a trick here
Obama taking endless amphetamines is far more concerning than him taking viagra
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:30,
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PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS!
PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! This isn't even slighty funny anymore, it wasn't even funny then. PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS! PILLS!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:26,
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shit! A simple error!
What calamity hath befallen me as mishap!
*cries*
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:31,
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*cries*
Pharmacists don't make pills anymore - I dislike the term
They sell tablets and capsules. Would you want to go to a pharmacy and have someone grind up a few powders, wet it, roll it into almost-similar-sized balls of something close to the appropriate dosage, and put them in a bottle for you? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pill_(pharmacy)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:34,
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Look man, it's space year 1567
and this is the damn service I expect from my apothecary
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 19:36,
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Embarrassingly, my first attempt at using an opacity brush!
Uh-oh, my next post is going to be my 1000th... does this mean I have to get nudey? *worries*
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:07,
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The camera just cut them off, sadly!
WOO 1000 posts in 5 months! I wonder if that's a good mileage...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:11,
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WOO 1000 posts in 5 months! I wonder if that's a good mileage...
That's a satisfyingly palindromic number...
Hi Smash! You said hi to me on my first day too, so thank you for that :)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:16,
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no worries
now all you have to deal with is your first candleday
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:18,
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1000 in 5 months?
Bloody hell, that's going some.
Now, donate, ya pikey.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:27,
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Now, donate, ya pikey.
Yep, definitely will
though I'm notoriously crap at following paypal-style instructions online, it shall be done
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:34,
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I don't have a paypal
I just did a funds transfer straight into Rob
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:41,
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I've got about 100 left to go till 9000...
A milestone I MIGHT reach by the end of the week. :)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:29,
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You're aiming to post 100 messages in the next six hours?
Or are you one of those weirdos that thinks the week starts on Sunday?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:36,
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I'm one of those weirdos that thinks the week starts on Monday. ;D
In hindsight, I should have said NEXT week...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:41,
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But in fairness, you said,
"A milestone I MIGHT reach by the end of the week. :)" but you never said which week...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:45,
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We could always start a back-and-forth is/isn't thread to get you on your way...
Erm... Paris ISN'T the capital of France.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:37,
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While I was looking for the original pic
I found a very funny shopped version with the couple at the front, pulling faces and 'crashing' the squirrel... I suspect b3ta might have been involved there...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:18,
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Clone?
Erm, I-I don't know what you're talking about, I specifically travelled to that lake and took a wider-angle photo just to make this pic... 6 months of planning! *runs*
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:20,
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The squirrel looks rather surprised to be so used
Nice work on the rocky bit and the shadow
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:21,
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Thank you :)
I originally just had a head shadow but it looked weird, so I added a square 'camera' bit to it
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:32,
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Oop, sorry for my bad timing
I'm intrigued by the shard of creation, what powers does it hold?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:03,
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if you touch it you become non-existent and no one will remember you ever existed; if you look at it you go blind
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:05,
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Kind of like masturbating in a public place then?
BTW GJM are these all for a game then? I'm hoping so.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:13,
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they can be for a game theyre the size as other stuff im drawing for a game but they might not
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:19,
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Actually 'shard of creation'
would be a perfect euphemism for the stuff that comes out...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:28,
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Got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got, got. Next.
P.s. I like this =)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:04,
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i had quantum burgers last night
now i have interdimensional gas
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:06,
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I'm sick and tired of people getting me strange dirt as a present
Next birthday I want a Shard of Creation or nothing.
(GJM)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:24,
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(GJM)
That's ok just don't get the puzzle box those Cenobites are a complete pain!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:30,
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You're welcome, Jeeves!
Is that the mainland or Tasmanian edition? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superb_Fairywren
Interesting bio; the male brings the female flowers, appears with her as a pair in public, but privately they both have their way with anyone and everyone, and proudly raise the bastard children.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:36,
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Interesting bio; the male brings the female flowers, appears with her as a pair in public, but privately they both have their way with anyone and everyone, and proudly raise the bastard children.
Mainland version.
They're great fun to watch, but hard work to get photos of.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:49,
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They "emerged from the great corvid radiation"
I picture a giant crow with lasers shooting from its eyes...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maluridae#Systematics
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:49,
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maluridae#Systematics
I may have played an April Fool on the Birding-Aus mailing list based on that.
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Lovely Fairywren is located further north than the Superb, but the sentiment is much appreciated.
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They are awful.
Any thanks I give are covered in rancid chicken fat.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:04,
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Forrin indeed.
Australia and PNG have the above birds that look superficially like wrens, but are more closely related to crows. They make a lovely twittering noise and hang around in families:
www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk/abirds/superbfairywren.html
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:38,
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www.tonykeenebirds.co.uk/abirds/superbfairywren.html
Mmm squirrel stew
On a related note, I was just looking over your profile, and I really want a McPie Deluxe. Why don't they exist?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:56,
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Thanks!
I've got another two species to do in a similar style as part of a commission.
Also had my first proper drawing published in a magazine the other week, which was nice. Hopefully get another in the next issue as well as a regular slot.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:52,
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Also had my first proper drawing published in a magazine the other week, which was nice. Hopefully get another in the next issue as well as a regular slot.
Vere pretty :)
I can imagine the branches bobbing up and down as they move position
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:55,
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Aha!
There was this really cool word I learnt once which meant seeing something (a phrase, a concept), remembering it, then much later on using it without realising that it's not your own idea... something like 'retromnesia' or something.
Seems appropriate that I've forgotten the word, now I think of it...
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:14,
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Seems appropriate that I've forgotten the word, now I think of it...
Thanks!
Seems to be all I add to b3ta these days. I've been drained of hummus.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 17:07,
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:D
It was an easy source to work with -- having the rocky background made blending easy
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:18,
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oh shit!
SHOULD i COMPO IT?
oops, caps, too lazy to hit [backspace] :P
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:38,
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oops, caps, too lazy to hit [backspace] :P
You should, but
do a red circle round the monster, and an insert with a grainy enlargement, and title it "PROOF AT LAST"
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:42,
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written entirely by an infinite number of typewriters using monkeys
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haha just 3 dutchmen in various costumes trying to make themselves look like 1.7 million
and then sailing away in a clog made for 3
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:26,
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JA!
Dat is heel goed
Edit: Haha, just noticed the funnels going HONKA HONKA
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:27,
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Edit: Haha, just noticed the funnels going HONKA HONKA
and you think they's say something else?
i think it's the sound of 0.7 million Dutchmen wanking furiously in the engine-room
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:29,
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isn't that a little dangerous what with all the throbbing pistons and whatnot?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:55,
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Logging into B3ta today
is like when you are reading a book and turn over two pages at once. Or maybe it is just me.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:27,
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It's a Facebook thing Mediocre posted saying that 3 Dutchmen had died on the Titanic "Think of the dutchmen!"
and this is what developed.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:29,
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Ah, Facebook
Without which there would be no Jeremy Kyle show. I'm afraid I don't subscribe and am thus a social leper.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:31,
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You should join us on the Facebook side, together we could rule the galaxy!
Burberry is optional.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:33,
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From what I hear
I would never keep up and soon lose all the virtual friends I never knew I had in the first place. I wouldn't know how to cope with that!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:36,
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I logged on the other day for the first time in about three months
They'd rearranged everything again, and other people's bands and shit were spamming my wall.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:40,
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You only have to accept the friends you know
so you can be as picky as you like. It can be as ridiculous as b3ta at times we have a Kylieball thing running where we totally reinvented rugby to include unicorns, naked rugby players, a naked Ronnie Corbet covered in bees as the referee the ball is a unicorn egg and the goals are Bouncy castles.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:42,
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You are talking to someone
who has a mobile phone that only makes phone calls. It does do texts, but as virtually no-one has my number it doesn't bleep much.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:48,
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Hear, hear!
I have a mobile only because my employer required me to have it and provided it, and it was at least a year before I used it to send a text.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:36,
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I use mine as an alarm clock
apart from that it's a rather fancy dust-gatherer. I get crap reception where I live as it is.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 16:47,
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Well call me old fashioned,
but if I am out the house it is because I am DOING SOMETHING. And if I'm doing something, I don't have time to talk on the phone! If I did, whatever I was doing probably wasn't important and I could have stayed at home.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 18:54,
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no
this episode was written in 1911 and it was deemed "too before the event" and it was decided to wait until now to release :)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:32,
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so sad when the titanic crashed into that huge tower on it's maiden voyage and dropped out of the sky onto an unsuspecting hindenberg.
:/
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:29,
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You've been here for ages and you'll still never be half the man geoff was.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:45,
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Your candle burns like the fire in your heart for geoff
but like the candle, gronkpan, no fire can last forever without fuel.
It may be time to let geoff go.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:31,
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It may be time to let geoff go.
If I was in that stupid film, I'd take both pills at once
WHAT THEN, Lawrence Fishburne, WHAT THEN?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:48,
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The Pope, The Hitler, The O'bama, The Matrix, The Viagra, The Phallus
Hello Catnippppppppp
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:56,
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I think he must have had an argument with the pope
and now he's trying to make the pope jealous by giving Hitler all the attention
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:18,
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Well apparently you can be in the Hitler Youth and not be a Nazi… apparently.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:25,
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I'm not actually
sure which camp is worse. Glad I'm not either.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:29,
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Burger van FILTH
that's what it is, come round in the burger van, and stay there selling their "westlers" with a sign as if it was a badge of honour specifying some kind of ambient catering product initiative but no they had to sell them on the grounds of public events and it's all "can I have a burger mammy" and it's all last minute cut throat scenario and then the ninjas make egg rolls for breakfast but nobody is listening at the council meeting the planners just sit there and smile and they build it anyway despite some guy living under half of it he then explodes but leaves his two sexy daughters hiding in the loft and they have to go out and get jobs in the big city so they'll come back broken if ever they come back at all and there's no explanation for it was milder on the other day sitting outside by the door sipping a gentle beer gently and waitng for the second coming of jesus.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:27,
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they travel hundreds of miles across the ice carrying vodka martinis and gitanes to feed their young
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:23,
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Yay for Black & White Animals!
&
* Yes I know it should be PANDA!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:33,
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&
* Yes I know it should be PANDA!
An early attempt...
Click for bigger (254 kb)
...by Stalin to erase his enamies from historical records and place himself close to Lenin.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:00,
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Click for bigger (254 kb)
...by Stalin to erase his enamies from historical records and place himself close to Lenin.
When a man goes through his own portal
Does he double in size or disappear completely?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:19,
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of the hundred people we asked
forty said 'yes'
well done, top answer!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:35,
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well done, top answer!
you spelled fascism wrong.
and by the looks of it, those arent fascists
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:49,
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they are all the same
all of them are not fresh between the legs
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:31,
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Inever do! I tried it with two "M's" but it looked rongger that it did with one!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:00,
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FAKE! No pope
Who are you and what have you done with imchocked?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:00,
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Phew, it's not just me!
I always think 'Bothams' at that point in the film. Can't help it.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:06,
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Haven't played that for years
I still have Myst and Riven around somewhere :)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:23,
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Months later, and with the colon to their backs, they approached their journey's end.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:45,
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They will be welcomed outside by a pair of hands and a gold ring
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:01,
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is it wrong
that, before i scrolled down, all i was seeing was a pierced groin?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:01,
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well it works
makes me think laurence llewelyn bowen redecorates the event horizon
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:33,
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It depends on your point of view
I'm sure Freud had a few words to say on the matter.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:08,
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Well you would look smug if you have lovely puppies like that!
Happy Birthday Alice Braga.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:00,
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Happy Real Birthday Real!
* Photo, or it's not true
I have done a Google search but I am not sure which one is you?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:11,
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I have done a Google search but I am not sure which one is you?
i can tell and it is appreciated.
I may make you a badge to show my appreciation
(but not right now)
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:35,
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(but not right now)
You are the bastard lovechild of William Hague and Julian Assange AICMFP
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:04,
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julian assange?
by bizzare coincidence i was just watching a vid of him.
i think i'm a bit too chunky to look like julian assanage though, so you can collect £2.50 and not a penny more
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:09,
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i think i'm a bit too chunky to look like julian assanage though, so you can collect £2.50 and not a penny more
£2.50? Woo Hoo!
*goes on wild spending spree in penny-sweets shop*
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:13,
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Careful of the mindpiss
and don't even think of claiming my £2.50. I've already bought 125 cola cubes and 125 flying saucers.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 14:21,
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i was shocked and ashamed to discover...
whilst buying some poor bens for myself and jelly rings for my offspring, that flying saucers are now 3p each in our local sweet shop.
pocketmoney goes so much less these days. it's like living in greece.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:31,
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pocketmoney goes so much less these days. it's like living in greece.
thank you PedroHin (42654)
edit - wow, that was unnecessarily complicated
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:29,
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edit - wow, that was unnecessarily complicated
i'd like to butter her croissant
if you know what i mean.
i love french pastries.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:47,
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i love french pastries.
This is the tunnel under number ten downing street that Cameron enters every night
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:03,
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He's too 'ard to cover his face
*he just wants a hug from Cameron really
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:53,
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Yep right knobheads
Just noticed the one 3rd from right appears to have a massive boner
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:01,
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Hahaha.....
I like how the one on the far left of the picture, looks like he's thinking "I'm just so depressed with my shit light blue hoodie, I can't even be bothered to cover my face"
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:07,
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Technically....
...I think the one second from the left is more of a thalidomide.
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Wed 18 Apr 2012, 22:08,
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So updog is shit?
I'm going to write a letter to Google to complain about lack of definition
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 13:29,
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Haha - you mean even without that cat you thought it would have been a good pic for b3ta?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 15:50,
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'ningles all. Like the saying goes, leopards never change their spats.
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Nice pic.
" that you get burnt your fingers"
You are Moggy AICMFP! ...or at least you were before the ninja edit!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 11:53,
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You are Moggy AICMFP! ...or at least you were before the ninja edit!
You can imagine his blog:
I once went on holiday to London, I burn my finger, I didn't like it much. :D
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 11:55,
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That GOD HATES FAGS?
I realize the ciggies are a public health problem but really, that stuff is taking it too far.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 12:02,
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I found this. I think I should be kicked in the face for compo'ing it yet again
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 8:53,
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Who is this oily fellow in yellow pants?
he seems violent and angry.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:01,
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^ Is is Spong Bob?
EDIT: I never notice, someone had given him a wedgie in the last photo and got his pantz up over his shoulder?
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:03,
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EDIT: I never notice, someone had given him a wedgie in the last photo and got his pantz up over his shoulder?
He would occasionally enter the ring in a sleeveless shirt
and proceed to demonstrate his cartoonish strength by tearing it off
www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OR6Kjo5m4
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:06,
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OR6Kjo5m4
you should post it twice, infact, er.... HERE IS AN IMAGE I FOUND ON THE B3TA I WILL PSOT IT ON THE B3TA
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:04,
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One day, when he was feeling naughty, Mr. Bunnsy looked over the hedge into Farmer Fred's field and saw it was full of fresh green lettuces. Mr. Bunnsy, however, was not full of lettuces. This did not seem fair.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:08,
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so naughty Mr. Bunnsy took some lettuces
and replaced them with chocolatey eggses!
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:12,
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However, chocolatey eggses are not lettuces, and due to a complex legal framework the farmer lost his CAP subsidy and was on the verge of bankruptcy
the farmer was very sad, so he took Mr shotgun out of his little shotgun cabinet and blew his skull apart smearing the wall behind him in farmer's head juice and he collapsed on the ground in a pool of blood.
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Sun 15 Apr 2012, 9:27,
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