
Sorry, my screen isn't showing the true colors, the fire looks brown here :^P
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:42,
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you could use some savlon on that.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:35,
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and it's erm....hangon............THATAWAY!!!!:D
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:58,
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he waits...:)
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:05,
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so good i can't bring myself to swear properly, cunts.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:02,
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Just playing about with Eye Candy Snapart
I may have to read the manual..
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:28,
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I may have to read the manual..

If they don't announce anything about the 1Ds MKIV, I'm going to grab a 1Ds 3 next Saturday, being an impetuous and impatient person :)
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:34,
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The idiom is hardly my exclusive domain.
It's a great source pic, I have had it in my
to-use folder for a while. But didn't do
anything with it yet. Do more, it's fun!
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Mon 31 Aug 2009, 0:42,
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It's a great source pic, I have had it in my
to-use folder for a while. But didn't do
anything with it yet. Do more, it's fun!

Soft Cheese Surprise
Serves 3
You will need:
* 10ml orange juice
* 3 oysters
* 110g soft cheese
* 150g mince
* 50g lard
Instructions:
1. whisk the mince
2. toast the lard
3. heat the mince in the saucepan
4. sauté the orange juice
5. throw the lard away
6. put the orange juice in the fridge to set
7. fry the oysters until browned
8. whisk the mince
9. slice the soft cheese
10. put everything in the blender
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:18,
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Serves 3
You will need:
* 10ml orange juice
* 3 oysters
* 110g soft cheese
* 150g mince
* 50g lard
Instructions:
1. whisk the mince
2. toast the lard
3. heat the mince in the saucepan
4. sauté the orange juice
5. throw the lard away
6. put the orange juice in the fridge to set
7. fry the oysters until browned
8. whisk the mince
9. slice the soft cheese
10. put everything in the blender

Cheese And Cheese Pudding
Serves 1
You will need:
* 110g cheese
* 1 carrots
* 5 lamb chops
Instructions:
1. grill the carrots
2. put the lamb chops in the saucepan
3. sift the cheese
4. go down the pub
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:19,
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Serves 1
You will need:
* 110g cheese
* 1 carrots
* 5 lamb chops
Instructions:
1. grill the carrots
2. put the lamb chops in the saucepan
3. sift the cheese
4. go down the pub

It has never failed*
*It possibly has
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:23,
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*It possibly has


Optimising blurred it to hell, but you get the idea.

I accidentally clicked Use as Desktop picture
It's so large it looks like it's about to crash through my monitor!
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:16,
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It's so large it looks like it's about to crash through my monitor!

At that size it probably shows up my poor 'shoppery even worse. Get rid of it man!
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:22,
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I bet it does look like the sun when coming towards you at night
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:03,
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I think if you use High Beam, the engines* stall.
*I like to think there are two V8s in there. A W8, if you will.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:24,
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*I like to think there are two V8s in there. A W8, if you will.

He truly and absolutely believes in a set of unprovable principles and theories to the extent that he will not entertain any other possibilities and openly berates anyone who does not conform to his beliefs.
I can follow that for as far as his theories are testable, beyond that he is just a lunatic who has chosen which theories he likes and stuck to them, like the worst religious fundamentalist.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:34,
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I can follow that for as far as his theories are testable, beyond that he is just a lunatic who has chosen which theories he likes and stuck to them, like the worst religious fundamentalist.

Yes he's dogmatic about the force...hang on..
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:37,
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I define "faith" as "believing in something impossible for which there is no proof" and then I further define it as "insanity". Dawkins is no lunatic, though I will concede he's pretty fundamental. But then I'm pretty hardline myself.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:45,
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"believing in something impossible for which there is no proof" is stupidity.
"believing in something for which there is no proof" is faith.
The conclusion that our worldview does not need transempirical support does not hold water once one begins questioning beyond our current ability to test. Asking questions which are beyond our present abilities is not madness, it is theorising and yes, science needs empiricism, but speculation is not at fault.
Dawkins does not adhere to radical empircalism, but allows for speculation, but he has decided, for whatever reason, to highlight any philosophical or scientific postulation which includes a deity as automatically wrong. What he does by this is declare any non deity based idea as correct and he does it in a manner which is fundamentalist.
As long as there are questions which there are not evidence for the answers to it will be a matter of faith to subscribe to any of those answers.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:25,
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"believing in something for which there is no proof" is faith.
The conclusion that our worldview does not need transempirical support does not hold water once one begins questioning beyond our current ability to test. Asking questions which are beyond our present abilities is not madness, it is theorising and yes, science needs empiricism, but speculation is not at fault.
Dawkins does not adhere to radical empircalism, but allows for speculation, but he has decided, for whatever reason, to highlight any philosophical or scientific postulation which includes a deity as automatically wrong. What he does by this is declare any non deity based idea as correct and he does it in a manner which is fundamentalist.
As long as there are questions which there are not evidence for the answers to it will be a matter of faith to subscribe to any of those answers.

please explain WHICH "set of unprovable principles".
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:50,
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You can't expect anyone how calls Dawkins a fundamentalist to actually explain why!
(For the record I think Dawkins is a smug antagonistic tosser, but he isn't as bad as the extremists no matter how much they want him to be).
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:08,
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(For the record I think Dawkins is a smug antagonistic tosser, but he isn't as bad as the extremists no matter how much they want him to be).

He holds a belief and condemns those who hold any other belief. He is an extremist.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:30,
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I mean, I subscribe to it, but I am aware that I could be proven wrong and, whilst I believe in it, it is not any more valid than an early creation.
Short Earth creationists can be shown to be wrong to an extent which is acceptable, hell, evolution is demonstrable, but theories as to soul, initial creation, fate and so on are all just that, theories.
I don't think I was sneezed out of the nose of a big green cat, but until I see some evidence to the contrary I will hold back from condemning those who might.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:29,
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Short Earth creationists can be shown to be wrong to an extent which is acceptable, hell, evolution is demonstrable, but theories as to soul, initial creation, fate and so on are all just that, theories.
I don't think I was sneezed out of the nose of a big green cat, but until I see some evidence to the contrary I will hold back from condemning those who might.

He absolutely believes, despite no evidence to back this up, that there is no deity.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:41,
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there is no evidence FOR god, therefore it's completely reasonable to hold the position it doesn't exist. God is about as probable as santa: there is a theoretical possibility it exists, but in all likelyhood it doesn't and anyone claiming otherwise had better provide some good evidence.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:56,
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You can never wholly disprove something, but that's irrelevent, that is not how burden of proof is.
As it stands there is evidence besides theory for the Big Bang (the residual energy), there is none for creation theories besides writing (most of which is actually copied from early Persian beliefs).
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:42,
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As it stands there is evidence besides theory for the Big Bang (the residual energy), there is none for creation theories besides writing (most of which is actually copied from early Persian beliefs).

If I want you to believe that Jesus was gay then I need to provide evidence.
If you want me to believe that he is straight then you need to provide me with evidence.
To be fair, I see no evidence against initial creationism.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:46,
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If you want me to believe that he is straight then you need to provide me with evidence.
To be fair, I see no evidence against initial creationism.

Otherwise I could spread libelous bollocks about anything or anyone and order them to give me concrete proof to the otherwise, but that is not how burden of proof works. You have to have evidence for your claims, other people don't have to provide evidence to contridict your baseless assertions.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:04,
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the royal society vs the church of england, at the old bailey. tickets only £400 a place. it'd be a killer.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:08,
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And maybe the Fruit Marketing Board.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 16:09,
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How burden of proof works is something you should research.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 18:59,
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about the "most beloved disciple" (implied to be john) lying on jesus' bare breast, there's actually some evidence for the "jesus was gay" argument.
except... oh, that damned catholic church, replacing the name "mary magdelene" with "john". i knew they were up to something!
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:46,
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except... oh, that damned catholic church, replacing the name "mary magdelene" with "john". i knew they were up to something!

"it is not any more valid than an early creation that can also produce the cosmic microwave background, the observed anisotropies on the cosmic microwave background and the length-scale of the baryon acoustic oscillations in the large-scale structure of galaxies, ideally without waving a hand and saying 'God did it that way'."
Is the "big bang" correct? Of course it's not. It relies on the universe being homogeneous and isotropic and the very fact we're here disproves that. Is it a predictive model that has passed every test so far? Well, no, but it's passed far more than any other cosmology ever has. Where it breaks down is on small scales around galaxies (it generally predicts cuspy dark matter haloes and too many satellites compared to observations), which is no great shock since the model itself cannot and can never have been trusted on small scales.
This is what annoys me about this kind of argument -- we're comparing a model that produces quantitative numbers and testable predictions, with the half-assed rambling of lunatic Bronze-Age goatherders which will never produce numbers. That's all science is about, ultimately -- numbers and predictions. Got a model that predicts what's observed? Good, it's a valid model. Is it truth? Who cares? Leave that to the philosophers. Got a religion that doesn't predict any numbers? Good, it's a religion. But don't try and pretend that it's got a viable cosmology unless you can get numbers out of it.
Very irritating.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:44,
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Is the "big bang" correct? Of course it's not. It relies on the universe being homogeneous and isotropic and the very fact we're here disproves that. Is it a predictive model that has passed every test so far? Well, no, but it's passed far more than any other cosmology ever has. Where it breaks down is on small scales around galaxies (it generally predicts cuspy dark matter haloes and too many satellites compared to observations), which is no great shock since the model itself cannot and can never have been trusted on small scales.
This is what annoys me about this kind of argument -- we're comparing a model that produces quantitative numbers and testable predictions, with the half-assed rambling of lunatic Bronze-Age goatherders which will never produce numbers. That's all science is about, ultimately -- numbers and predictions. Got a model that predicts what's observed? Good, it's a valid model. Is it truth? Who cares? Leave that to the philosophers. Got a religion that doesn't predict any numbers? Good, it's a religion. But don't try and pretend that it's got a viable cosmology unless you can get numbers out of it.
Very irritating.

It is not wrong, it is just different.
Well, it might be wrong, but we do not know yet.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 18:58,
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Well, it might be wrong, but we do not know yet.

I doubt you'll read this reply, alas, but overall I more or less agree with your position. It's true that I'm saying "Religion is not science", but I'm not then following it up with "therefore it is wrong". What I was trying to drive at is that drawing *scientific* conclusions out of religion is wrong -- unless it can produce testable numbers. Just the same as drawing religious conclusions out of science is straining what are, after all, sophisticated algorithms rather too far.
What science can tell is is how nature behaves. That doesn't mean that that's what nature *is*, just that that's how it behaves. Drawing conclusions beyond that is certainly a matter of faith.
Sorry for the antagonistic tone -- I study cosmology for a living, so I'm a bit more sensitive to claims that it's only as valid as a creationist theory than the usual nerd is.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 21:49,
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What science can tell is is how nature behaves. That doesn't mean that that's what nature *is*, just that that's how it behaves. Drawing conclusions beyond that is certainly a matter of faith.
Sorry for the antagonistic tone -- I study cosmology for a living, so I'm a bit more sensitive to claims that it's only as valid as a creationist theory than the usual nerd is.

But then, if a deity existed it would not be supernatural, would it? It would be natural.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 15:26,
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this plaxce i bursting with tallent
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 17:43,
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have i missed something?
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:57,
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Vinegar A La Soy Sauce
Serves 1
You will need:
* 110ml mint sauce
* 20ml soy sauce
* 60ml vinegar
* 30ml essence of vanilla
* 30ml lemon juice
Instructions:
1. pre-heat the oven to 200 C
2. slice the lemon juice
3. stir-fry the soy sauce
4. rinse the vinegar
5. grill the essence of vanilla
6. sauté the mint sauce
7. bake for 70 minutes and serve hot

and raise you with a Willwillwritehiswillesque wall that I saw in Buenos Aires

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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:49,
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The bastard was working for the NWO after all!

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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:13,
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Self important megalomaniac cunt.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:15,
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so this is going to be one of those kind of days here
That's actually Bill Hicks with the megaphone. He never died.
www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+hicks+is+alex+jones
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:17,
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That's actually Bill Hicks with the megaphone. He never died.
www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=bill+hicks+is+alex+jones


I like the idea of a mobile mobile! jesus i should work harder at these ideas
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:30,
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his lectures on building tin foil hats are highly entertaining
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:57,
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How does it see?
Terribly
.. Hang on...
/cheers all :)
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:06,
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Terribly
.. Hang on...
/cheers all :)

happy candles old chap
have this
www.televisiontunes.com/Dads_Army_-_Drum_And_Bass_Remix.html
p.s great theme tune site
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:22,
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have this
www.televisiontunes.com/Dads_Army_-_Drum_And_Bass_Remix.html
p.s great theme tune site

..but then, that would be givin'it away:)
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 14:40,
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you will hear a knock on your door 20 minutes ago. answer the door.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 13:24,
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you'll be taken over by it's fluffiness, and forget that you had a file open in (what appears to be) MSPAINT.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 13:44,
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open the back... roll the coals around a little
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 12:15,
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Would you like assistance with that?
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 11:45,
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Manic Miner would have been more appropriate :)
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 11:32,
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woo yay hoopla
so alone
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 10:39,
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so alone

Or is jordan turning into whats her face off Planet of the apes?

I'd still like her boobs tho.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 10:13,
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I'd still like her boobs tho.

or someone.
also : phwoar
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 10:31,
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also : phwoar



'ningles all (or one person. It's Sunday after all. Imaginary deity's day of hangovers.

Edit:
And on that note I'm off to bed. But I'll give a
hearty Happy B3day to Archie' in case I'm
not around until after it passes before I go. Night all.
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Sun 30 Aug 2009, 9:34,
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And on that note I'm off to bed. But I'll give a
hearty Happy B3day to Archie' in case I'm
not around until after it passes before I go. Night all.

hang on a minuet, thats not your dog
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