
He'll be saying exactly the same thing 50 years down the line, but getting PAID for it :-)
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:45, Reply)

blindly following what everyone else thinks and saying the same old stuff.
And don't get me started on intolerance! Just labelling anything different to what they think as being bad without finding out more about what it is they hate.
And they commit the logical fallacy of holding up the worst examples of a different group and saying they are ALL like that. Never thinking, no self criticism, no sense of irony, that's their problem.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)

(but makes a refreshing change from all the football posted on /links recently).
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:07, Reply)

Saw this the other day, shocking.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:28, Reply)

for and African type mafia group afterall. What a guy.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)

*is old enough to remember when it was first broadcast*
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)

You are also assuming that he has met Nelson Mandela.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)

er... ronseal?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 3:38, Reply)

Chameleon grabs a bug off a sumo wrestler's face in super slow motion.
What could be more normal than that?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:18, Reply)

my lightsaber addition to ninja cat made it to some TV show!
: D
in case you missed it, it's here...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgT9EfZerwA
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:01, Reply)

something to tell the folks : P
he he
although I don't like this red lighsaber talk, everyone knows that the sith have red lightsabers. That's why I called it JEDI cat, not sith cat.
I dunno.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:14, Reply)

Your views go through the roof when they feature one of your vids :)
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 7:39, Reply)

interweb infamy shall be yours, unless someone reuploads it to youtube with the title "Lightsaber Ninja Cat (original)" and nicks all your views
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:41, Reply)

fucking spanish, fucking 3rd world, racist, speech impediment cunts.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:49, Reply)

but to be fair, ive already accepted he'll be gone soon enough.
just hope the money is right
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:53, Reply)

about FC Barcelona. The only team that has no sponsor on their shirts - instead they promote unicef and donate millions to them each year.
7 of Spain's starting line-up were Barça players and all except Villa came through their youth ranks.
The club is entirely owned by the fans who elect the president of the club.
I could go on...
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:59, Reply)

I suppose their charitable activities don't extend to the other clubs in la liga who are riddled with debt because the tv money is unevenly distributed. Unlike in germany and england.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:01, Reply)

has got nothing to do with any club. It's between the football federation and the TV companies.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:02, Reply)

and they rejected any proposal to adopt a system like the premier league dispite the fact that the current system would put half their league into administration.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:03, Reply)

As far as I know, no club in the Primera Liga went into admin last season.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:05, Reply)

but your original description to the video does seem, how can I put this - "A little harsh"?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:05, Reply)

Are you an Arsenal fan or something?
The Barça players are having a laugh joking that he is already a Barça player.
Btw - it's "speech". Do you live in a glass house?
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:55, Reply)

At least when you sell him the transfer fee will be invested back into your club. Every transaction my club makes goes to pay off Glazier debts. :(
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:57, Reply)

I have to admit the raping of manchester united by the glazers is one of the worst things ever to happen football. Clubs need protection from "investors" like the glazers.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:59, Reply)

both manchester utd and the shite (liverpool) goatse'd as soon as the americans came knocking with a bit of cash. there was no qualms about paying £30m for berbatov or about £25m for torres, but now it's apparent what they're using the club for.
yes, i agree things like this need to be stopped in future, but a "big 4" club should have seen through their opening pitch - same goes for the latest car-crash club pompey. besides, for every disaster there's another success venture - villa, chelsea, man citeeeeh.
makes me proud to be skint and with an incompetent yet loving chairman - it's like everton's run by "how not to live your life".
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)

since Fabregas' contract with them meant they paid Barca a fee everytime he played for them, along with goal and other bonuses.
Everyone seems to think the Arse got him for free?
He's probably already cost them about £20mill
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)

Maybe it's because I don't follow footy.
But all I see is a team celebrating their World Cup Win.
So, to call them Scum (and a 3rd world, racist, speech impediment cunts) is a massive insult, not just to them, but also to your own intelligence.
Maybe you should work on that, yeah?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:11, Reply)

I can only assume you are either having a laugh or retarded. Ive been here for 5 years and never looked back. In fact from once being a proud Brit I'm now actually quite ashamed of it. So go ahead and enjoy your delusions of adequacy. Its mildly entertaining to those that know better :D
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:55, Reply)

if so, unfuckinglucky.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:20, Reply)

It's a bit like your girlfriend/boyfriend coming home at 5am wearing your boss's favourite T-shirt, whilst giggling and saying "Oh don't take it the wrong way! My friends were just messing about."
If you're going to dump someone then at least show a little class and do it respectfully so as not to hurt the other person's feelings. Is that too much to ask ?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 5:56, Reply)

...pendejo
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 6:57, Reply)

The OP is a bit of a dick
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:32, Reply)

has committed massive irony fail....
"racist" and "3rd world speech impediment cunts" in the same sentence...
you absolute cock.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)

I don't mind admitting that if I was starving, one of these would look mighty tempting.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:10, Reply)

omly slightly bettered by a cold bolognase one.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:34, Reply)

If you've never put lasagne or spag. bol. on a sandwich....well, then you've missed out.
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:27, Reply)

blah blah GC blah blah.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:45, Reply)

I actually had to scroll back up to see if I was on the Newsround pages.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:49, Reply)

and writes down some of the things he says
"Mom and I saw a great movie last night...No, don't remember the name. It was about a guy or, no, wait.. fuck, getting old sucks."
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:36, Reply)

lolololololololol
someone should tell /QOTW
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:04, Reply)

a bit similar to "Dad Jokes" - I requested a return to that a while ago as it's till my favourite, and a lot of you will have grown up since then - also a hell of a lot more readers too.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 21:16, Reply)

he has gone past the "got a book deal out of it" and actually has the book out.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:05, Reply)

I've got to agree, great site though it is. A reasonably good one to follow on Twitter too.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:00, Reply)

With The Shatner as 'Dad'.
But yeah, if I did the whole twitter thing, this would be one of the things I followed.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:38, Reply)

I did the GC check and it came up without a match - but there are some corkers in there, aren't there?
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 21:02, Reply)

"Son, no one gives a shit about all the things your cell phone does. You didn't invent it, you just bought it. Anybody can do that."
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:40, Reply)

No one wants advice from a 29 year old who still lives with his parents. Particularly one who tracks fecal matter around the house on their shoes.
If the guy who did this blog set out to poke fun at his dad, I'm afraid all he's done is reveal his own inadequacies to the world.
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:31, Reply)

Simon the cat joins the Galactic Empire...
GC says no, but bound to be wrong again....
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:26, Reply)

oops. Well played CBS news website. love the scoreline too...
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:04, Reply)

I'm sure its just being twitchy, but there's something iffy about the ads on the site
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:09, Reply)

(screenie)
(Site was fine for me incidentally. That or my malware detection is b0rked, and my computers now screwed)
######carrier lost
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:11, Reply)

one of the most exciting scores ever scored in a world cup :D
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:22, Reply)

i don't get anything like that but have script smart, so maybe it is some kind of XSS stuff (not that i know anything about that, but SS sometimes pops up to say it has stopped it.)
glad you got to see it though.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:31, Reply)

Silly Dutch thugs winning by score to score! Mind you I know where I'd like to stick the trumpets all these people are playing in Madrid right ow! :O
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:15, Reply)

"They were one of history’s greatest teams.
But by the late 2000s, Pro Vercelli were entrenched in the lower leagues, their glorious past forgotten. Until one day, a man bought a video game."
One mans journey playing Football Manager with the worst team he could find...There are quite a lot of articles about his seasons playing the game with Pro Vercelli.
I don't even play the game but i loved this, so even if you don't like FM you may still enjoy this; it is his writing style and passion which sucked me in.
His greatness described
"Do you think Rinus Michels could have taken Forest Green Rovers to the Champions League? Do you think Carlo Ancelotti could have instituted a Brazilian box midfield that turned Heerenveen into the most powerful team in the Eredivisie? Do you think Alan Curbishley could have ignited Raith Rovers in a fiery resurrection that would see them routinely annihilate Chelsea?"
"I almost always start out with a weak club when I launch a new FM career, because honestly, it’s the only way to find a challenge even remotely worthy of my excellence. If I managed Arsenal, I’d wind up transcending the physical universe and achieving a radiant spiritual synthesis, and the new Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movie doesn’t even come out till August. So I’m basically looking for the also-rans, the losers, the small, troubled, sentimental favorites: Go Ahead Eagles, say, or Merthyr Tydfil, or, if I really want to suffer, Newcastle United."
Brilliant. made me proper lol.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:02, Reply)

Watched this earlier; I actually quite like the bloke, there is something of Fu Manchu about him :)
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:50, Reply)

he somehow manages to be sinister and spectacularly camp at the same time.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:03, Reply)

is because he is camp and spectacularly sinister
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:36, Reply)

It's an O-men-men-men-men-men
spotify:track:156oozyC0SdsnMrNnvMQQ1
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:15, Reply)

People like Clegg seem simply two dimensional in comparison
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:09, Reply)

(a leg a lee)
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:20, Reply)

but is still a lying liar and a wanker. he was the one who actually said at the party conference (when they were way down in the polls) "if i can come back, anyone can come back." jeez, the fucking arrogance. and he is the "grandson of Herbert Morrison, the London County Council leader and Labour cabinet minister" so politics is in the family. a born liar then.
still and all, the new bloke is descended from the king, so not much better.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:26, Reply)

goes with the job description
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:31, Reply)

Also...Cunt....cunt...cunty cunty cunt cunt cunt.
Cunt.
Cunt.
cuuuuuuuunt.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:18, Reply)

and was somewhat confused by the whole thing
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:22, Reply)

you gargle with satan's sperm each morning?
Good girl, eat that shit down.
It will speed up your anal cancer you gypsy creaming cockhound.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:24, Reply)

On the other hand, he helped broker the Good Friday agreement. Just saying.
( , Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:42, Reply)

has heard of youtube? And it's ability to get people fired by showing everyone their foolishness?
Didn't we have the video of the busdriver who was reading a book whilst driving along recently?
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:10, Reply)

He appears to be a cunt. If his rig wasn't fit for purpose, all he had to do was say so; it wouldn't be his fault
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:14, Reply)

Bus drivers are fucking evil.
...Also...is the person making the video drunk? Sounds it.
aaand...more info:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/10597744.stm
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:46, Reply)

but yes, there was a thread recently and i believe there was either a driver or someone who worked for stagecoach or something like that who commented in it. it was another bus thread AFAIR.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:56, Reply)

www.b3ta.com/links/486643
thanks mr google.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:13, Reply)

however, the bloke with the camera instead of filming the driver could have made himself far more useful by putting the ramp down himself.
Thanks for labelling all drivers as evil it really makes my job such a wonderful job especially when twats get on my bus and treat me like scum when I've done all I can to be helpful.
we are not all the same.
And to point out some facts here:
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:09, Reply)

Thanks for confirming It is a "cost effective vehicle"
No-one has pointed out a small thing:
The wheelchair is trying to get OFF that means that the employee of the month somehow allowed it onboard. Now doesn`t that mean it has to get off somewhere?
Your HSE points are valid, but rather undermined by this small consideration.
The vid doesn`t show that so presumably the poor occupant had to carry on until a level kerb with the bus was found somewhere in Greater Manchester.
There is no sign of a continuing conversation with his controller which is I would have thought on the procedure list for something like this or perhaps that stopped when deregulation apparently allowed giving out PSV`s to white van men?
These are the ones that give your trade such a bad rep.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:56, Reply)

fortunately they are a tiny, and I mean a tiny, minority.
As you say, which I didn't notice initially, the wheelchair is already on the bus and the driver is inisting that he cannot operate the ramp that therefore reinforces the case of the driver that this wheelchair has accessed the bus without the ram being put down when they boarded and should therefore be able to do the same on exiting the bus. When the camera pans down to the floor the gap is reasonable and the height is perhaps an inch or so off level with the kerb. So it would appear the driver has done all he can to make exiting the bus as easy as it was on entering the bus. This stink of some twat with a camera deliberately looking to blow this out of propotion.
However, if I was the driver I wouldn't even have entertained him I would have lowered the ramp on both occassions so that he would have not to fucking shout about, but then I don't suffer with a bad back and I would not recommend any Driver putting themselves on the sick by putting their backs out.
I have stood for the Union BTW.
This anti Bus-Driver bullshit causes many many drivers to suffer long term stress and illness realted from stress - thanks for doing all you can to push it that little harder.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:59, Reply)

what are the requirements in Manchester for disabled access? I take it this is a private first bus , not a franchised from Manchester local gov service, so it looks like absolutely nothing bar the most penny-pinching crap.
The london bendy busses are notionally mercedes, have air suspension so they they lurch like torpedoed that side to the kerb and the second WIDE set of doors (ie front is first, then second....) have an auto ramp, which always gets full of crap and wont retract, so the bus becomes disabled too.
That`s a scania version of a bendy bus according to the vid, i`m no bus-spotter, so it may have air suspension but if it has twatty boy was too much of a div to do any more than that.
The best part of him went down their milkman`s leg IMHO.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:14, Reply)

...just incase you swallow water, and break your fast.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 20:56, Reply)

The document released by the council in question says:
"In general, participation in swimming is an acceptable activity whilst fasting. However, for many pupils this activity may prove to be an issue, as the potential for swallowing water is very high. Some pupils or parents consider the risk too great and may wish to avoid swimming whilst fasting. Others may take the view that as swallowing water is unintentional it does not break the fast.
Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full participation."
The council suggested this as a possibility, for schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils. The word 'told' implies some sort of order, which there wasn't.
Do the media care? Do they fuck. Daily Mail and other shitrags blow this out of proportion to create MUSLIMS! POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD! YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP! bullshit.
tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/ and the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/ are pretty good for debunking this sort of thing.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 20:57, Reply)

Is there a HYS thread on this? I might have a look and see what the usual morons are saying and send something to spEak you're bRanes.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:03, Reply)

If my child was prevented from swimming lessons because of the risk of hurting the sentiments of religious morons who believe in sky fairies, I would be absolutely outraged
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:13, Reply)

But since it's never happened in this country, you've little to worry about.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:23, Reply)

"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full participation"
what if my child was in the minority here and prevented from attending swimming lessons during their Ramadan? Or even another religious faith with no observance to Ramadan?
That entire report is complete bollocks
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:32, Reply)

But there's a difference between being prevented from having swimming lessons, and being prevented at a particular time. And if there's a lot of people in the class who would reject lessons at that time, it may be better - in the sense of less faff - just to bite the bullet.
I take your point, and I'm generally pretty sympathetic - but I'm not wholly convinced that it's all that big an issue.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:35, Reply)

It's silly little reports like this which just float down gently into the hands of cunts like the Daily Mail or the Sun
Why give them the ammunition?
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:42, Reply)

When we were at school, we did swimming for probably about 1/4 of the year? So if swimming during Ramadan is going to mean finding something else for a large portion of the class to do, wouldn't it just be easier to schedule swimming for some other time?
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:44, Reply)

I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?
If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?
If kids really want to go swimming during Ramadan, there are plenty of "Kids swim free" type schemes around.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:02, Reply)

And it's got nothing to do with hurting their sentiments.
That's what I'm trying to say. =/
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:25, Reply)

For fuck's sake geezer
"I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?
If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?"
I don't want any disruption to my child's schedule due to religious belief; why is this so hard to grasp?
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:37, Reply)

Which is no bad thing
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:51, Reply)

this is a document prepared by:
"EMAS: The Ethnic Minority Achievement Service"
that then states:
"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling
swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full
participation."
so then the other kids are the minority but their rights are sidelined and the musilim kids rigths come first.
ok.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:54, Reply)

Why?
Because Ramadan lasts for 1 month, usually throughout August and sometimes the first week of September.
This BARELY overlaps with the first week of the new school year.
Ergo, much ado about FUCK ALL!
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:32, Reply)

the document states that:
"The Islamic calendar is based on a lunar cycle, therefore, the month of Ramadan
begins 10 or 11 days earlier each year on the Gregorian calendar; hence it takes
Ramadan about 33 years to move through the seasons from January to December"
thus is can be in any month.
www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:01, Reply)

Believing that water swallowed during swimming is somehow going to anger your god or affect your 'spirituality' in any way is ridiculous. Religious sensibilities should have no bearing on lesson scheduling or any other aspect of public life.
that's what I reckon anyway.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:26, Reply)

www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
And then you could read what the actual document says. It's not what the BBC says it is.
(Incidentally, this story has also been picked up by The Freethinker, which simply repeats the inaccuracies, and whose editors seem to have decided that my comment pointing this out needs to be moderated. Not that I make a habit of pointing out that site's many inaccuracies... oh, no. Well, not much.)
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:21, Reply)

"Schools can develop the spiritual, moral social and cultural aspects of their children
and school life by recognising and building upon the essence and spirit of Ramadan."
why? keep religion out of skool.
"Teachers can take this opportunity to be more inclusive and teach pupils about
Ramadan in religious education and to invite guests from the Muslim community to
take collective worship or assemblies"
why? keep religion out of skool.
"The majority of pupils who are fasting are able to take part in most physical activities
during Ramadan without putting themselves at risk or in danger. Fasting may make
some children feel tired or drowsy, or even develop headaches due to dehydration.
This may necessitate some Muslim pupils having to reduce their physical exercise.
Schools may wish to consider and plan less strenuous activities in physical education
lessons during Ramadan."
why? keep religion out of skool.
"No oral medication can be taken by a person who is fasting. Anyone needing regular
medication during fasting hours is normally exempt from fasting in any case.
Medication can be taken once the fast has ended. Medical injections can be taken by
a person who is fasting, although not those injections that influence body nutrition."
Better not have an accident that requires a saline drip then huh?
"When Ramadan falls during the winter months, after-school detention or activities for
a pupil who is fasting could mean that the pupil is not able to reach home in time to
break their fast. Whilst accepting full responsibility for breaching school rules,
schools should be aware that pupils are able carry out their religious duty of breaking
the fast on time. A drink or anything to eat is sufficient and many schools do make
this provision available when required. Some parents may request that their children
break the fast at home with their family."
(my italics) So if they do request this, then the kids piss about in class then what?
"Festival of Sacrifice (Eid ul-Adha)
Eid ul-Adha celebrates the completion of the Hajj (the annual pilgrimage to Makkah)
In many countries after the public prayers, those who can afford to, sacrifice a lamb or
a goat to signify the Prophet Ibrahim’s (Abraham’s) obedience to God, shown by his
readiness to sacrifice his son Ismail (Ishmael)."
Yeah, cos killing your kid cos of voices in your head should be celebrated.
"Schools can recognise and celebrate the Eid festivals by highlighting the importance
of the message of Eid through collective worship and assemblies. Schools may want
to share sweets amongst all children to mark this event."
I wouldn't want my kids propagandised with any form of intolerant religious bullshit, whatever the religion.
"In the vast majority of primary schools, when changing for PE, both boys and girls
have no choice but to change in mixed group environments for sports activities.
Muslim children are likely to exhibit resistance to this sort of compromising and
immodest exposure, but are often pressurised to conform to institutional norms which
do not take account of their own or their parents’ beliefs and values."
wow, like all religions, the brainwashing starts early.
"In secondary schools, changing facilities are always gender specific but almost always
communal. Communal changing compromises the Islamic modesty requirements and
having to change down to their undergarments in the presence of their peers and
teachers can be a source of embarrassment or even be undignifying for many pupils"
ffs.
"Some schools may have policies for children to shower at school after sports
activities. These arrangements sometimes take the form of naked communal
showering, which involves profound indignity. The practice of allowing Muslim
children to shower in bathing costumes or shorts does not solve the problem if other
pupils are naked in the same communal shower area. Islam forbids nakedness in front
of others or being among others who are naked.
Muslim children should not be expected to participate in communal showering.
Sensitivity and understanding by school and staff in these matters will be much
appreciated by both Muslim pupils and their parents. One practical solution in a
school environment would be the installation of individual shower cubicles. In the
absence of separate cubicles for changing and showering, Muslim children should be
allowed to delay showering until they reach home."
profound indignity? just wow. not showering till they get home? what if (like when i was at school) PE was sometimes in the morning?
KEEP. RELIGION. OUT. OF. SKOOL
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:50, Reply)

;)
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:29, Reply)

Let's impose secularism on everyone, rather than doing the hard work of living together. Live and let live (as long as you all live the secularist way).
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:36, Reply)

RAMADAN 2010 = 11 August - 9 September
New school year starts Tuesday 7 September
Also, what school schedules swimming for the 1st day of term? None of them.
Second day of term? I would bet a large sum of money - none of them. That leaves the third day (the 9th). Personally, I would doubt any normal school would schedule any sort of PE with specific kit requirements during the first week, full stop! It's all admin, registers, new exercise books, curriculum outlay during the first week.
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:38, Reply)

the document states that:
"The Islamic calendar is based on a lunar cycle, therefore, the month of Ramadan
begins 10 or 11 days earlier each year on the Gregorian calendar; hence it takes
Ramadan about 33 years to move through the seasons from January to December"
thus is can be in any month.
www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
( , Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:03, Reply)

So is this whole issue about the disruption that may (but probably wont) be caused... in 7 years time when ramadan next overlaps the UK school calendar?
As stated above, much ado about fuck all.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:31, Reply)

and therefore full of kiddy piss and shit particles, I would advise against EVER drinking the water.
( , Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)
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