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This is a normal post Hahaha...
That's brill.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:31, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha!
it doesn't take long
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Ha ha..
Thats the Scotch in Mel coming out..
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:12, Reply)
This is a normal post *Scotch

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:40, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha
Poor old Glover, he's too old for this shit.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Inspired idea..
and brilliantly done :)
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:39, Reply)
This is a link post Baby preacher - (with subtitles)
He'll be saying exactly the same thing 50 years down the line, but getting PAID for it :-)
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:45, Reply)
This is a normal post that
makes me die inside.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Preaching or heavy metal?
The kid has talent.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:21, Reply)
This is a normal post People who follow the crowd are so stupid
blindly following what everyone else thinks and saying the same old stuff.

And don't get me started on intolerance! Just labelling anything different to what they think as being bad without finding out more about what it is they hate.

And they commit the logical fallacy of holding up the worst examples of a different group and saying they are ALL like that. Never thinking, no self criticism, no sense of irony, that's their problem.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:00, Reply)
This is a normal post oh YES!
Love it!
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:07, Reply)
This is a link post Cheating cunt

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Dirty cunt

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Not cool maaan.
(but makes a refreshing change from all the football posted on /links recently).
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:07, Reply)
This is a normal post I've never met a nice South African & that's not bloody surprising mun!!
Saw this the other day, shocking.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:28, Reply)
This is a normal post yeah,
that nelson mandela bloke's a right cunt. ;)
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:06, Reply)
This is a normal post He was a former gun runner
for and African type mafia group afterall. What a guy.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post It was a lyric from a spitting image song...
*is old enough to remember when it was first broadcast*
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks Tab Hunter
www.youtube.com/watch?v=v439zTOJVho
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Not only is it a song about apartied
You are also assuming that he has met Nelson Mandela.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:52, Reply)
This is a link post A pig faced man eats some harlets, in a rather operatic way.
er... ronseal?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 3:38, Reply)
This is a link post Meanwhile in Japan...
Chameleon grabs a bug off a sumo wrestler's face in super slow motion.
What could be more normal than that?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:18, Reply)
This is a normal post His eyes totally make this vid
*Clicktastic*
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 3:49, Reply)
This is a normal post ooOOOh!
that's a longun
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:29, Reply)
This is a normal post I love this for his expression
Clicks hard
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 18:22, Reply)
This is a link post In @ number 5
my lightsaber addition to ninja cat made it to some TV show!
: D

in case you missed it, it's here...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgT9EfZerwA
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Gratz!
:D
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:11, Reply)
This is a normal post funny isn't it : )
something to tell the folks : P
he he

although I don't like this red lighsaber talk, everyone knows that the sith have red lightsabers. That's why I called it JEDI cat, not sith cat.

I dunno.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Hey, good going fella!

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Yay! Nice one :D
Your views go through the roof when they feature one of your vids :)
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 7:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Well done :-)
Send it off for t'letter.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:39, Reply)
This is a normal post well done fella!
interweb infamy shall be yours, unless someone reuploads it to youtube with the title "Lightsaber Ninja Cat (original)" and nicks all your views
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:41, Reply)
This is a link post Why would you tell the internet
Why
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:41, Reply)
This is a normal post why?!!
just...........why?
lol
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:12, Reply)
This is a normal post im not sure if thatas actually possible

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 7:28, Reply)
This is a link post FIG PREDATOR!!! I made this!

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:15, Reply)
This is a normal post i think you need /board

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:35, Reply)
This is a normal post i need ya boots ya figs and ya modasical

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:45, Reply)
This is a link post scum scum scum scum scum scum scum
fucking spanish, fucking 3rd world, racist, speech impediment cunts.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:49, Reply)
This is a normal post complete wankers
but to be fair, ive already accepted he'll be gone soon enough.
just hope the money is right
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:53, Reply)
This is a normal post
does any club actually have LESS class then them?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:56, Reply)
This is a normal post you clearly know nothing
about FC Barcelona. The only team that has no sponsor on their shirts - instead they promote unicef and donate millions to them each year.
7 of Spain's starting line-up were Barça players and all except Villa came through their youth ranks.
The club is entirely owned by the fans who elect the president of the club.
I could go on...
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:59, Reply)
This is a normal post
I suppose their charitable activities don't extend to the other clubs in la liga who are riddled with debt because the tv money is unevenly distributed. Unlike in germany and england.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:01, Reply)
This is a normal post the TV money
has got nothing to do with any club. It's between the football federation and the TV companies.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:02, Reply)
This is a normal post
and they rejected any proposal to adopt a system like the premier league dispite the fact that the current system would put half their league into administration.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:03, Reply)
This is a normal post do you have a reference for that?
As far as I know, no club in the Primera Liga went into admin last season.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:05, Reply)
This is a normal post So basically
you hate them for being successful.
(, Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:25, Reply)
This is a normal post I see where you're coming from with that comment
but your original description to the video does seem, how can I put this - "A little harsh"?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:05, Reply)
This is a normal post what the hell are you on about?
Are you an Arsenal fan or something?
The Barça players are having a laugh joking that he is already a Barça player.
Btw - it's "speech". Do you live in a glass house?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:55, Reply)
This is a normal post ^
They are all naturally high as kites; why mock their bliss?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha. Oops!
At least when you sell him the transfer fee will be invested back into your club. Every transaction my club makes goes to pay off Glazier debts. :(
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:57, Reply)
This is a normal post
I have to admit the raping of manchester united by the glazers is one of the worst things ever to happen football. Clubs need protection from "investors" like the glazers.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:59, Reply)
This is a normal post lol @ protection
both manchester utd and the shite (liverpool) goatse'd as soon as the americans came knocking with a bit of cash. there was no qualms about paying £30m for berbatov or about £25m for torres, but now it's apparent what they're using the club for.

yes, i agree things like this need to be stopped in future, but a "big 4" club should have seen through their opening pitch - same goes for the latest car-crash club pompey. besides, for every disaster there's another success venture - villa, chelsea, man citeeeeh.

makes me proud to be skint and with an incompetent yet loving chairman - it's like everton's run by "how not to live your life".
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post The Arse won't actually make much out of thed deal at the end of the day
since Fabregas' contract with them meant they paid Barca a fee everytime he played for them, along with goal and other bonuses.
Everyone seems to think the Arse got him for free?

He's probably already cost them about £20mill
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Away back to the..
Daily fucking mail you total fucking arse.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:00, Reply)
This is a normal post
fuck off.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry
...Arth
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:07, Reply)
This is a normal post IT Crowd FTW

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry, but I just don't get it
Maybe it's because I don't follow footy.
But all I see is a team celebrating their World Cup Win.
So, to call them Scum (and a 3rd world, racist, speech impediment cunts) is a massive insult, not just to them, but also to your own intelligence.
Maybe you should work on that, yeah?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:11, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this^

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:12, Reply)
This is a normal post indeed

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:15, Reply)
This is a normal post thirded

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:22, Reply)
This is a normal post fourthed

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:30, Reply)
This is a normal post fifthed

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:22, Reply)
This is a normal post sixthed

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 4:24, Reply)
This is a normal post seventhededed...eded?

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 5:38, Reply)
This is a normal post I bought you a cookie
but I eighthed it
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Who is more racist in this post?
You or spain?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Neither.
Spaniards are white. He's being xenophobic.
(, Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Well... as a half Brit half Spaniard living in Madrid
I can only assume you are either having a laugh or retarded. Ive been here for 5 years and never looked back. In fact from once being a proud Brit I'm now actually quite ashamed of it. So go ahead and enjoy your delusions of adequacy. Its mildly entertaining to those that know better :D
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Can I infer from your username that you support Holland?
if so, unfuckinglucky.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:20, Reply)
This is a normal post It's a question of respect..
It's a bit like your girlfriend/boyfriend coming home at 5am wearing your boss's favourite T-shirt, whilst giggling and saying "Oh don't take it the wrong way! My friends were just messing about."

If you're going to dump someone then at least show a little class and do it respectfully so as not to hurt the other person's feelings. Is that too much to ask ?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 5:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Let it all out, brother...

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 8:01, Reply)
This is a normal post way to go on including "racist" in the little xenophobic hissy-fit there...
...pendejo
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 6:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Most ironic use of the word "racist".
Ever.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:02, Reply)
This is a normal post RISing like a bitch right here.

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:20, Reply)
This is a normal post I thought it was pretty funny & they're messing around
The OP is a bit of a dick
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:32, Reply)
This is a normal post the poster
has committed massive irony fail....

"racist" and "3rd world speech impediment cunts" in the same sentence...

you absolute cock.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Its official..
Pepe Reina is the new David May.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:13, Reply)
This is a link post Lasagna sandwich
from b3ta's favourite shop... unshopped!


(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:16, Reply)
This is a normal post right, goin bed.
l8t3r b3ta. w0w i iz so k3wl.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:16, Reply)
This is a normal post Mmmm. Carbohydrates.

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:23, Reply)
This is a normal post

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:55, Reply)
This is a normal post What took them so long?
That's how I eat lasagne.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:37, Reply)
This is a normal post is it wrong..
to think that sounds edible?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Nope.
I don't mind admitting that if I was starving, one of these would look mighty tempting.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:10, Reply)
This is a normal post edible?
it looks frickin awesome! :D
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:31, Reply)
This is a normal post nope

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:53, Reply)
This is a normal post a lasagna sarnie is awesome.
omly slightly bettered by a cold bolognase one.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Pasta is basically unlevened bread anyway
If you've never put lasagne or spag. bol. on a sandwich....well, then you've missed out.
(, Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:27, Reply)
This is a link post NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA CATDUCK!
blah blah GC blah blah.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post After reading the article
I actually had to scroll back up to see if I was on the Newsround pages.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:49, Reply)
This is a link post A chap that lives with his dad
and writes down some of the things he says

"Mom and I saw a great movie last night...No, don't remember the name. It was about a guy or, no, wait.. fuck, getting old sucks."
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:36, Reply)
This is a normal post "Don't ask for my opinion then. I said congrats on the car, just saying nobody's panties are getting wet from a fucking Honda Accord."
lolololololololol

someone should tell /QOTW
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Heheh.
Keep the hope alive, man, keep the hope alive!
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:15, Reply)
This is a normal post Be
a bit similar to "Dad Jokes" - I requested a return to that a while ago as it's till my favourite, and a lot of you will have grown up since then - also a hell of a lot more readers too.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 21:16, Reply)
This is a normal post this is so old
he has gone past the "got a book deal out of it" and actually has the book out.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:05, Reply)
This is a normal post
I've got to agree, great site though it is. A reasonably good one to follow on Twitter too.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:00, Reply)
This is a normal post Sitcom in the works too
With The Shatner as 'Dad'.
But yeah, if I did the whole twitter thing, this would be one of the things I followed.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 11:38, Reply)
This is a normal post Well
I did the GC check and it came up without a match - but there are some corkers in there, aren't there?
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 21:02, Reply)
This is a normal post I am SO going to use this one!
"Son, no one gives a shit about all the things your cell phone does. You didn't invent it, you just bought it. Anybody can do that."
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:40, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm inclined to agree with the father on a lot of things.
No one wants advice from a 29 year old who still lives with his parents. Particularly one who tracks fecal matter around the house on their shoes.

If the guy who did this blog set out to poke fun at his dad, I'm afraid all he's done is reveal his own inadequacies to the world.
(, Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:31, Reply)
This is a link post Star Wars Fluff
Simon the cat joins the Galactic Empire...
GC says no, but bound to be wrong again....
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Fake
In space no one can hear you miaow.

Edit: how rude! *click*
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post hohohoho
nishe!
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:18, Reply)
This is a normal post : D
oh yes!
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:25, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha Fantabulous :D

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 7:42, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahahaha
The Ackbar voice is spot on
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 9:39, Reply)
This is a link post Holland win world cup!!
oops. Well played CBS news website. love the scoreline too...
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:04, Reply)
This is a normal post my computer says that site is a malware attack
I'm sure its just being twitchy, but there's something iffy about the ads on the site
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:09, Reply)
This is a normal post screenie
(screenie)
(Site was fine for me incidentally. That or my malware detection is b0rked, and my computers now screwed)

######carrier lost
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:11, Reply)
This is a normal post haahhahah score to score
one of the most exciting scores ever scored in a world cup :D
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:22, Reply)
This is a normal post hmmm
i don't get anything like that but have script smart, so maybe it is some kind of XSS stuff (not that i know anything about that, but SS sometimes pops up to say it has stopped it.)

glad you got to see it though.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Mine doesnt.
Silly Dutch thugs winning by score to score! Mind you I know where I'd like to stick the trumpets all these people are playing in Madrid right ow! :O
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:15, Reply)
This is a link post Pro Vercelli
"They were one of history’s greatest teams.

But by the late 2000s, Pro Vercelli were entrenched in the lower leagues, their glorious past forgotten. Until one day, a man bought a video game."

One mans journey playing Football Manager with the worst team he could find...There are quite a lot of articles about his seasons playing the game with Pro Vercelli.

I don't even play the game but i loved this, so even if you don't like FM you may still enjoy this; it is his writing style and passion which sucked me in.

His greatness described

"Do you think Rinus Michels could have taken Forest Green Rovers to the Champions League? Do you think Carlo Ancelotti could have instituted a Brazilian box midfield that turned Heerenveen into the most powerful team in the Eredivisie? Do you think Alan Curbishley could have ignited Raith Rovers in a fiery resurrection that would see them routinely annihilate Chelsea?"

"I almost always start out with a weak club when I launch a new FM career, because honestly, it’s the only way to find a challenge even remotely worthy of my excellence. If I managed Arsenal, I’d wind up transcending the physical universe and achieving a radiant spiritual synthesis, and the new Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants movie doesn’t even come out till August. So I’m basically looking for the also-rans, the losers, the small, troubled, sentimental favorites: Go Ahead Eagles, say, or Merthyr Tydfil, or, if I really want to suffer, Newcastle United."

Brilliant. made me proper lol.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:02, Reply)
This is a link post Rather odd advert for Mandelson's memoirs

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:47, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahaha
Watched this earlier; I actually quite like the bloke, there is something of Fu Manchu about him :)
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:50, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
he somehow manages to be sinister and spectacularly camp at the same time.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:03, Reply)
This is a normal post The main reason he succeeds in doing that
is because he is camp and spectacularly sinister
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:36, Reply)
This is a normal post that's because he's an evil fucking cunt
It's an O-men-men-men-men-men
spotify:track:156oozyC0SdsnMrNnvMQQ1
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:15, Reply)
This is a normal post hehe
one of the campest things ive ever seen
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:55, Reply)
This is a normal post This guy is an utter wanker

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I find him to be one of our more entertaining politicians
People like Clegg seem simply two dimensional in comparison
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:09, Reply)
This is a normal post he's entertaining when he's fucking the arse of arabic rentboys with syphilis
(a leg a lee)
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:20, Reply)
This is a normal post he is entertaining
but is still a lying liar and a wanker. he was the one who actually said at the party conference (when they were way down in the polls) "if i can come back, anyone can come back." jeez, the fucking arrogance. and he is the "grandson of Herbert Morrison, the London County Council leader and Labour cabinet minister" so politics is in the family. a born liar then.

still and all, the new bloke is descended from the king, so not much better.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:26, Reply)
This is a normal post They are generally all liars and wankers
goes with the job description
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Accepted
Mandelson does seem to be their champion, though.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:38, Reply)
This is a normal post bugger the cunt to death with bad-aids ridden jackals

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:09, Reply)
This is a normal post "Are you shitting comfortably?" ... what?
Also...Cunt....cunt...cunty cunty cunt cunt cunt.

Cunt.



Cunt.




cuuuuuuuunt.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:18, Reply)
This is a normal post I read that as Mandela's memoirs
and was somewhat confused by the whole thing
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:22, Reply)
This is a normal post what's that Peter?
you gargle with satan's sperm each morning?

Good girl, eat that shit down.

It will speed up your anal cancer you gypsy creaming cockhound.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:24, Reply)
This is a normal post wow
and i thought i disliked him.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:27, Reply)
This is a normal post he beat me at Monopoly
also he raped my cat*

*may have happened
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Homophobic much?

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 2:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Can't hear him over how much of a cunt he is

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:27, Reply)
This is a normal post It's cunts like him...
...that get cunts a bad name.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:58, Reply)
This is a normal post On the one hand, there is a lot of ill-feeling towards him expressed in this thread.
On the other hand, he helped broker the Good Friday agreement. Just saying.
(, Wed 14 Jul 2010, 13:42, Reply)
This is a normal post somebody is getting fired in the morning

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:25, Reply)
This is a normal post I suspect this also
lazy old fucker
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Surely this busdriver
has heard of youtube? And it's ability to get people fired by showing everyone their foolishness?

Didn't we have the video of the busdriver who was reading a book whilst driving along recently?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Good riddance
He appears to be a cunt. If his rig wasn't fit for purpose, all he had to do was say so; it wouldn't be his fault
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:14, Reply)
This is a normal post "fit for purpose"
grrrr.........
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:11, Reply)
This is a normal post Couldn't he have just asked for someone to help him out?

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Why will people STILL not believe me.
Bus drivers are fucking evil.

...Also...is the person making the video drunk? Sounds it.

aaand...more info:
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/10597744.stm
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Don't we have a bus driver amongst our ranks?
Who is it I wonder
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:53, Reply)
This is a normal post it is not me
but yes, there was a thread recently and i believe there was either a driver or someone who worked for stagecoach or something like that who commented in it. it was another bus thread AFAIR.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Burn him!
let the witch hunt begin!
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Actually I think it is indeed a 'she'
just can't remember who
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:10, Reply)
This is a normal post the witchhunt ends: this is the thread
www.b3ta.com/links/486643

thanks mr google.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah I'm a busdriver with First and it's unacceptable for this driver to refuse wheelchair access
however, the bloke with the camera instead of filming the driver could have made himself far more useful by putting the ramp down himself.

Thanks for labelling all drivers as evil it really makes my job such a wonderful job especially when twats get on my bus and treat me like scum when I've done all I can to be helpful.

we are not all the same.

And to point out some facts here: This is a Volvo B10 (known as a Barbie) and the ramp isn't automated! When the guy with the video point it at the ramp there is a latch to the right side which when flipped open reveals the handle of a lever which has to be manually pulled to bring the ramp out it's not easy to do and has some weight behind it. If indeed the driver suffers from a bad back then by Health and Safety regulation he should not be operating this ramp. Also if the driver has not been given ramp training by the Management (which they often neglect to do) once again he should not be operating the ramp.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:09, Reply)
This is a normal post Have a look again and ignore the anti bus driver in general, concentrate on this one only
Thanks for confirming It is a "cost effective vehicle"

No-one has pointed out a small thing:
The wheelchair is trying to get OFF that means that the employee of the month somehow allowed it onboard. Now doesn`t that mean it has to get off somewhere?
Your HSE points are valid, but rather undermined by this small consideration.

The vid doesn`t show that so presumably the poor occupant had to carry on until a level kerb with the bus was found somewhere in Greater Manchester.

There is no sign of a continuing conversation with his controller which is I would have thought on the procedure list for something like this or perhaps that stopped when deregulation apparently allowed giving out PSV`s to white van men?

These are the ones that give your trade such a bad rep.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:56, Reply)
This is a normal post I know there are some terrible bus driver out there who behave like utter twats
fortunately they are a tiny, and I mean a tiny, minority.

As you say, which I didn't notice initially, the wheelchair is already on the bus and the driver is inisting that he cannot operate the ramp that therefore reinforces the case of the driver that this wheelchair has accessed the bus without the ram being put down when they boarded and should therefore be able to do the same on exiting the bus. When the camera pans down to the floor the gap is reasonable and the height is perhaps an inch or so off level with the kerb. So it would appear the driver has done all he can to make exiting the bus as easy as it was on entering the bus. This stink of some twat with a camera deliberately looking to blow this out of propotion.

However, if I was the driver I wouldn't even have entertained him I would have lowered the ramp on both occassions so that he would have not to fucking shout about, but then I don't suffer with a bad back and I would not recommend any Driver putting themselves on the sick by putting their backs out.

I have stood for the Union BTW.

This anti Bus-Driver bullshit causes many many drivers to suffer long term stress and illness realted from stress - thanks for doing all you can to push it that little harder.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:59, Reply)
This is a normal post I`m a bus user in london, not a bus driver
what are the requirements in Manchester for disabled access? I take it this is a private first bus , not a franchised from Manchester local gov service, so it looks like absolutely nothing bar the most penny-pinching crap.

The london bendy busses are notionally mercedes, have air suspension so they they lurch like torpedoed that side to the kerb and the second WIDE set of doors (ie front is first, then second....) have an auto ramp, which always gets full of crap and wont retract, so the bus becomes disabled too.

That`s a scania version of a bendy bus according to the vid, i`m no bus-spotter, so it may have air suspension but if it has twatty boy was too much of a div to do any more than that.

The best part of him went down their milkman`s leg IMHO.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:14, Reply)
This is a link post No swimming during Ramadan...
...just incase you swallow water, and break your fast.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 20:56, Reply)
This is a normal post See, the problem here is the use of the word 'told'.
The document released by the council in question says:
"In general, participation in swimming is an acceptable activity whilst fasting. However, for many pupils this activity may prove to be an issue, as the potential for swallowing water is very high. Some pupils or parents consider the risk too great and may wish to avoid swimming whilst fasting. Others may take the view that as swallowing water is unintentional it does not break the fast.
Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full participation."

The council suggested this as a possibility, for schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils. The word 'told' implies some sort of order, which there wasn't.
Do the media care? Do they fuck. Daily Mail and other shitrags blow this out of proportion to create MUSLIMS! POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE MAD! YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP! bullshit.

tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/ and the-sun-lies.blogspot.com/ are pretty good for debunking this sort of thing.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 20:57, Reply)
This is a normal post I totally concur...

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:01, Reply)
This is a normal post ^ clickin dis
Is there a HYS thread on this? I might have a look and see what the usual morons are saying and send something to spEak you're bRanes.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:03, Reply)
This is a normal post Err
If my child was prevented from swimming lessons because of the risk of hurting the sentiments of religious morons who believe in sky fairies, I would be absolutely outraged
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe.
But since it's never happened in this country, you've little to worry about.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I wonder
"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full participation"

what if my child was in the minority here and prevented from attending swimming lessons during their Ramadan? Or even another religious faith with no observance to Ramadan?

That entire report is complete bollocks
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Hmmm...
But there's a difference between being prevented from having swimming lessons, and being prevented at a particular time. And if there's a lot of people in the class who would reject lessons at that time, it may be better - in the sense of less faff - just to bite the bullet.

I take your point, and I'm generally pretty sympathetic - but I'm not wholly convinced that it's all that big an issue.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:35, Reply)
This is a normal post To be honest
It's silly little reports like this which just float down gently into the hands of cunts like the Daily Mail or the Sun

Why give them the ammunition?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:42, Reply)
This is a normal post This ^
When we were at school, we did swimming for probably about 1/4 of the year? So if swimming during Ramadan is going to mean finding something else for a large portion of the class to do, wouldn't it just be easier to schedule swimming for some other time?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Fuck that
My original point:

www.b3ta.com/links/495996
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:55, Reply)
This is a normal post But they will go swimming, just not at that time.
I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?

If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?

If kids really want to go swimming during Ramadan, there are plenty of "Kids swim free" type schemes around.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:02, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh dear
www.b3ta.com/links/495996
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:07, Reply)
This is a normal post But it wouldn't stop them from swimming.
And it's got nothing to do with hurting their sentiments.

That's what I'm trying to say. =/
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:25, Reply)
This is a normal post *Sigh*
For fuck's sake geezer

"I'm guessing other schools are the same as mine was, and swimming doesn't happen all year 'round anyway, so what difference does it make if it takes place at some other time of the year?

If they don't want to go swimming during Ramadan, you're not going to change their minds, and short of throwing them into the swimming pool, that means you'll have to have another teacher sit with them and find them something else to do, which is a pain in the bum, so why not just have the swimming in some other month?"


I don't want any disruption to my child's schedule due to religious belief; why is this so hard to grasp?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:37, Reply)
This is a normal post It might teach the non-Muslim kids acceptance of other peoples way of lives
Which is no bad thing
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:51, Reply)
This is a normal post i agree
this is a document prepared by:

"EMAS: The Ethnic Minority Achievement Service"

that then states:

"Schools with a significant number of Muslim pupils should try to avoid scheduling
swimming lessons during Ramadan to remove unnecessary barriers to full
participation."

so then the other kids are the minority but their rights are sidelined and the musilim kids rigths come first.

ok.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:54, Reply)
This is a normal post I doubt that it would ever happen...
Why?

Because Ramadan lasts for 1 month, usually throughout August and sometimes the first week of September.

This BARELY overlaps with the first week of the new school year.

Ergo, much ado about FUCK ALL!
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:32, Reply)
This is a normal post from Enzymes link below
the document states that:

"The Islamic calendar is based on a lunar cycle, therefore, the month of Ramadan
begins 10 or 11 days earlier each year on the Gregorian calendar; hence it takes
Ramadan about 33 years to move through the seasons from January to December"

thus is can be in any month.

www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:01, Reply)
This is a normal post im athiest. DEAL WITH IT

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Deal with what?
Being bullied by people into religious faith?
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:32, Reply)
This is a normal post behead those who insult the Sky Fairies!!

(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 0:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Fasting to honour your 'god' is ridiculous,
Believing that water swallowed during swimming is somehow going to anger your god or affect your 'spirituality' in any way is ridiculous. Religious sensibilities should have no bearing on lesson scheduling or any other aspect of public life.

that's what I reckon anyway.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Now you could follow the link that the BBC provides...
www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf

And then you could read what the actual document says. It's not what the BBC says it is.

(Incidentally, this story has also been picked up by The Freethinker, which simply repeats the inaccuracies, and whose editors seem to have decided that my comment pointing this out needs to be moderated. Not that I make a habit of pointing out that site's many inaccuracies... oh, no. Well, not much.)
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Thanks for the link. KEEP. RELIGION. OUT. OF. SKOOL
"Schools can develop the spiritual, moral social and cultural aspects of their children
and school life by recognising and building upon the essence and spirit of Ramadan."

why? keep religion out of skool.

"Teachers can take this opportunity to be more inclusive and teach pupils about
Ramadan in religious education and to invite guests from the Muslim community to
take collective worship or assemblies"

why? keep religion out of skool.

"The majority of pupils who are fasting are able to take part in most physical activities
during Ramadan without putting themselves at risk or in danger. Fasting may make
some children feel tired or drowsy, or even develop headaches due to dehydration.
This may necessitate some Muslim pupils having to reduce their physical exercise.
Schools may wish to consider and plan less strenuous activities in physical education
lessons during Ramadan."

why? keep religion out of skool.

"No oral medication can be taken by a person who is fasting. Anyone needing regular
medication during fasting hours is normally exempt from fasting in any case.
Medication can be taken once the fast has ended. Medical injections can be taken by
a person who is fasting, although not those injections that influence body nutrition."

Better not have an accident that requires a saline drip then huh?

"When Ramadan falls during the winter months, after-school detention or activities for
a pupil who is fasting could mean that the pupil is not able to reach home in time to
break their fast. Whilst accepting full responsibility for breaching school rules,
schools should be aware that pupils are able carry out their religious duty of breaking
the fast on time. A drink or anything to eat is sufficient and many schools do make
this provision available when required. Some parents may request that their children
break the fast at home with their family."


(my italics) So if they do request this, then the kids piss about in class then what?

"Festival of Sacrifice (Eid ul-Adha)
Eid ul-Adha celebrates the completion of the Hajj (the annual pilgrimage to Makkah)
In many countries after the public prayers, those who can afford to, sacrifice a lamb or
a goat to signify the Prophet Ibrahim’s (Abraham’s) obedience to God, shown by his
readiness to sacrifice his son Ismail (Ishmael)."

Yeah, cos killing your kid cos of voices in your head should be celebrated.

"Schools can recognise and celebrate the Eid festivals by highlighting the importance
of the message of Eid through collective worship and assemblies. Schools may want
to share sweets amongst all children to mark this event."

I wouldn't want my kids propagandised with any form of intolerant religious bullshit, whatever the religion.

"In the vast majority of primary schools, when changing for PE, both boys and girls
have no choice but to change in mixed group environments for sports activities.
Muslim children are likely to exhibit resistance to this sort of compromising and
immodest exposure, but are often pressurised to conform to institutional norms which
do not take account of their own or their parents’ beliefs and values."

wow, like all religions, the brainwashing starts early.

"In secondary schools, changing facilities are always gender specific but almost always
communal. Communal changing compromises the Islamic modesty requirements and
having to change down to their undergarments in the presence of their peers and
teachers can be a source of embarrassment or even be undignifying for many pupils"

ffs.

"Some schools may have policies for children to shower at school after sports
activities. These arrangements sometimes take the form of naked communal
showering, which involves profound indignity. The practice of allowing Muslim
children to shower in bathing costumes or shorts does not solve the problem if other
pupils are naked in the same communal shower area. Islam forbids nakedness in front
of others or being among others who are naked.
Muslim children should not be expected to participate in communal showering.
Sensitivity and understanding by school and staff in these matters will be much
appreciated by both Muslim pupils and their parents. One practical solution in a
school environment would be the installation of individual shower cubicles. In the
absence of separate cubicles for changing and showering, Muslim children should be
allowed to delay showering until they reach home."

profound indignity? just wow. not showering till they get home? what if (like when i was at school) PE was sometimes in the morning?

KEEP. RELIGION. OUT. OF. SKOOL
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 21:50, Reply)
This is a normal post what are you trying to say?
:)
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:19, Reply)
This is a normal post not shure really. *mumbles* something something religion something
;)
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:29, Reply)
This is a normal post Mmmmm
Let's impose secularism on everyone, rather than doing the hard work of living together. Live and let live (as long as you all live the secularist way).
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 12:36, Reply)
This is a normal post fuck this shit

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:17, Reply)
This is a normal post WHAT COMPLETE AND UTTER SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RAMADAN 2010 = 11 August - 9 September
New school year starts Tuesday 7 September

Also, what school schedules swimming for the 1st day of term? None of them.
Second day of term? I would bet a large sum of money - none of them. That leaves the third day (the 9th). Personally, I would doubt any normal school would schedule any sort of PE with specific kit requirements during the first week, full stop! It's all admin, registers, new exercise books, curriculum outlay during the first week.
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 22:38, Reply)
This is a normal post I wish this comment could be up-voted to the top!

(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:00, Reply)
This is a normal post as replied above...
the document states that:

"The Islamic calendar is based on a lunar cycle, therefore, the month of Ramadan
begins 10 or 11 days earlier each year on the Gregorian calendar; hence it takes
Ramadan about 33 years to move through the seasons from January to December"

thus is can be in any month.

www.moderngov.stoke.gov.uk/Published/C00000117/M00003568/AI00022934/$Ramadan1doc.docA.ps.pdf
(, Mon 12 Jul 2010, 23:03, Reply)
This is a normal post but for this year, the dates are as stated above and overlap the school calendar by 3 irrelevant days. (google "ramadan 2010")
So is this whole issue about the disruption that may (but probably wont) be caused... in 7 years time when ramadan next overlaps the UK school calendar?

As stated above, much ado about fuck all.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 1:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Bearing in mind this is a school swimming pool,
and therefore full of kiddy piss and shit particles, I would advise against EVER drinking the water.
(, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 10:19, Reply)

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