Inspired by paranormal activity here is episode 3 of THE PHANTOM SHITTER.... Enjoy
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Appropriately a Webbie is actually a web browser for blind people.
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Smug bastard b3ta compilation.
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I've been asked to license one of my Flickr photos for use in a trade brochure. Unfortunately I've got absolutely no idea how much to be asking for. Now assuming that some of you may work in the field, what's a reasonable price for this sort of thing?
Link obviously related - its the photo they want to license.
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like:
how it's being used (print/online/billboards)
where (how many countries, and which ones)
who for (charity/business)
what for (commercial product/service or internal comms)
Find a similar one on Getty (gettyimages.co.uk), and play about with their pricing. My guess is you should be able to get a grand pretty easily, as it's a distinctive shot that would be tricky to find an alternate for, but you might be able to get more depending on who they are and how they're using it.
(NB, if it's one of our art directors asking, however, the answer is £50)
***EDIT: just noticed you did say trade brochure. If it's from a company direct (rather than agency), they'll probably go mental if you say a grand, as they find it outrageous when agencies explain to them that they can't have it for free. This doesn't mean you shouldn't stick to your guns though.
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I rather suspect that a grand might be taking the piss somewhat, but that it should be possible to get somewhere above £50.
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To be honest, if they've got any kind of professional outfit designing a brochure for them, they'll be paying upwards of £10k for that. If your image is on the cover, you should aim for a significant amount relative to that. If it's one of 30 images, and on an inner page, less so.
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Oh yeah, and if you get more from it than feel you would have done otherwise because you consulted the B3tan hive mind, be a good chap and donate a small proportion of the difference to B3ta.
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but in a similar vein, I'm submitting an invoice to B3ta for all the bonuses and pay rises I've missed out on because of its existence.
It's only fair.
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Bear in mind I've got beer, rent, beer, food, beer, bills and beer to fork out for...
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I hereby appoint you chief flatterer, but I feel I should warn you the conditions are shit and I can't afford to pay you.
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What i've sent are the pricing guidelines for the British Association of Picture Libraries and Agencies
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which was the British Airline Pilots Association. Dangerously similar acronyms there...
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...if it's on the front of the brochure then ask for £200 if it's just one of many images within the brochure, £70.
You will still retain copyright and they are just licensing the image.
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gets me many, many threads on the subject. Highly recommended!
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I had a look at the FlickrCentral group, which is what I think you're referring to but all I see is a bunch of threads complaining about favourites and not being explored this week.
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I ran a search there for similar info several months ago so can't say it's fresh.
FC is mainly there so bored grown-ups can vent while pressing f5 to see if their flickr stats changed.
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I suspect the good info i found back then was from a fellow Swede in one of the other groups...
While I see many threads on the subject in FC, it's cluttered by way too much chat.
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Jay Leno liked it too...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4RhLvQvIGc
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but good luck and I hope you get some cash from them - nice shot and really nice car.
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The people who want your image want to make money. Nothing wrong with that, but why shouldn't you also make money? Taking that photograph certainly cost you money, and you have to eat, so charge your costs + whatever profit you want.
If they say no, it's their loss, not yours. Don't be impressed by any of that "but it's an honour for your work to be seen by so many people, you shouldn't need paying", because it's utter bullshit.
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They're not going to get it for a printed credit, that's for sure. However its better for me financially to agree to a moderate fee than for them to walk away from an unreasonable one. I'm not exactly in a position to be turning money down at the moment.
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I know it's the Christian Science Monitor but it's still funny.
Edit: In fact it should just be stolen and used as a a Compo.
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Although I'm gonna call fake. White men can't jump.
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Jumps like Kermit.......
Where did Kermit go when MS launched?????
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Something I'm sure most b3tans remember from the Viz. I won't mark it NSFW, because as you all know, it's not really bum fun, it's just implied :)
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Has someone slipped me some acid? I seem to be playing 'snake' with the youtube buffer circle thing..
WTF!
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how did I miss something on the internet?! Who did this without telling me about it?
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You too, could pretend to be important and politically connected 'up to the hilt'...
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what lots of people are thinking in that Werrity is up to his hilt in Fox?
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some Vivian Stanshall reference apparently...
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whose name escapes me presently...
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climactic soap suds bubbling out from under the lid.
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Here's the trailer for the animated short I wrote called All Consuming Love (Man in a Cat).
The man in the cat is voiced by my comedy hero Kevin Eldon, and the film also stars Josie Long and Clever Pie's Isabel Fay. Directed by Louis Hudson. Created, animated, and written by Dice Productions.
It was made for UK Film Council and Screen WM and is doing the festivals round the world at the moment. Should be online sometime next year.
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and reminds me of Ubu Bubu which is similar, but a devil that lives inside a normal cat
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Hahaha, this looks ace. Love traditional animation. And the quirky!
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Brilliant wares though, sir :p
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Been meaning to join for a while. I'll post other stuff, cross my heart.
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It resulted from me thinking, "Fuck it, that'll do"
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Although I do spacing stuff for work every now and again.
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Sorry for posting actual 'news', but the health reform bill has passed through the Lords.
So long free healthcare for all, hello spiralling inequalities!
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Don't want to be contentious, but this isn't a case of going from having something that's super awesome and fair and equitable to something that's evil, unfair and heinous.
It's a slight shift, which means that healthcare provision which already favours the wealthier* might possibly do so a smidgeon more, but that's not really been proved - it's just possible.
*This isn't criticising the current system unduly. You can't really stop rich people buying themselves advantages in health, education etc etc. It's sort of what people want to spend money on if they have it.
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Experience and hard evidence tells us that this has never resulted in improvements or efficiencies, merely increased amounts of tax revenues going to shareholders rather than public agencies and service users.
It's not that the wealthy will receive a better standard of care, but the standard for those who cannot afford it will go through the floor :o(
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It also means a vast multiplication of admin, which in turn means a gross increase in waste, which in turn means that the taxpayer loses, which in turn means that the
It's the thin tip of a corporate cock that's about to rip through our collective rectums like wet tissue-paper.
My quality of life is maintained by an expensive medication, so I'm extremely worried about all this. We're only a couple of steps away from having to have health-insurance like the yanks. Insurance that won't cover me (like millions of Americans) due to my "pre-existing condition".
We're turning into a mini-America, so if you've got some decent in-demand qualifications then you'd do well to go somewhere else. I don't, so unless I win the lottery then I'm stuck.
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From a purely practical point of view, the NHS is going from being run by 150 bodies (PCTs, SHAs etc.) to over 600 - each of which will need to have contracts and SLAs in place every bit of healthcare provided. McKinsey's and their ilk are already well into the GP commissioning groups offering to 'help' with this.
Throw in GPs deciding which services are no longer covered by the NHS whilst setting up private companies to offer those very same services and primary care is going the way of dentistry. It appears there's feck all anyone can do about it.
Best advice I can think of is "don't be ill"
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I'm glad I followed through on leaving the country when a tory government was elected.
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Where did you go?
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In power is enough for me to leave. I'm in Iceland now, best thing I ever did.
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they even carried my bags to the car
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Ever since Bupa and the like got set-up the NHS has gone down hill.
When you've only had one choice for healthcare the rich and powerful made sure it was in a fit state for them to use too.
That and people expecting to live longer, be able to sue when things go wrong and use all the latest drugs and techniques but not pay for them through higher taxes has bleed the NHS of funds.
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when does someone become "rich"? What's the threshold for example from just "well off" to "rich" to "elite/powerful/lizard" ?
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In others I would be considered just average because of it's size.
And powerful is just that. Someone with power to exert over others.
Lizard? You're in david ike territory there.
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It's true! They're responsible for Global Warming, as it enables them to freely move around the planet without the need for
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Earn over £26k, and you're in the richer half.
Or it's £33k if you look at those of employment age only.
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If you're in trouble within a year then you weren't rich.
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public health care system, and the fact that we have one makes it amazing.. Not for an awful lot longer.
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The pharmaceutical companies bribed G.Ps with free gifts if they prescribed their products.
Cleaning was passed over from unionised workers to private companies who then sub- contracted.
Matrons with taken off the ward leaving nurses and doctors to try and manage wards themselves.
Catering budgets were slashed meaning people are actually leaving hospital malnourished.
For me the NHS died a long time ago, this is just a shell and people do it no favours pretending that the NHS now is some beacon for healthcare.
The Tories started the rot last time they were in power and Labour finished it off.
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it's much better to pay for private health care. I'm looking forward to the future as a self-employed person finding out how much my private insurance will be. Fuck the shoddy service we get now from the rubbish NHS, let's close it down and give people what they actually want.
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Why is it when someone doesn't side with one side of an argument they assume that you automatically are pro the other side?
You seem to be under the impression I approve and want an end to to social care.
I don't, but i'm not going to pretend what we've had for the past 20-30 years was a proper social health care system.
Give me the power to change things and i'ld tax the private hospitals to the hilt, not allow G.P's to work for the private sector until they've served a certain amount of years and paid back to the state what the state paid to train them. Make sure private hospitals take care of the patient from start to finish and not do what they do now and skimp on the recuperative care and fob that off on the NHS.
I would also put out of business with punitive fines any company that takes on a NHS contract job and fails in it's care of duty. I would also prosecute with corporate man slaughter any CEO's who's company has caused deaths in this manner.
People who think what we've had is proper social healthcare probably also think the last labour government was a proper labour one and if a few years of having to pay for healthcare is what it takes for people to wake up and demand social healthcare then so be it.
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I've had to rely heavily on the NHS since the early 80's and I can assure you that it was awful, and I mean really awful under the tory party and improved immeasurably under Labour by comparison. I think people forget just how bad it used to be. No problem though as in a couple of years time they should get it back to how it was.
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Really nice folks working for the NHS under (I imagine) often difficult circumstances and bureaucracy.
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Where we get free prescriptions! I'd have no money if that wasn't the case.
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I've found the NHS in Scotland generally better than back in England, lots more focus on preventative medicine and the like. In general I approve.
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Click here for a very handy update site!
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yet the presenter on Radio 5 earlier was referring to it as a crisis.
A flotilla of gunboats rampaging up the Thames would be a crisis. Not being able to get your email on the train most certainly isn't.
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FUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.........
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but I think part of the reason it's getting so much attention is that it is such a remarkable fuck up for a big company. It sounds like they basically directed the whole of their business for Europe through one set of servers in Slough, which they then updated all at the same time, without a backup, and without checking if the operation was going to work first.
Some exec from RIM has been in news today basically saying 'We don't know what's wrong, but we're sorry, and we'll fix it as soon as we can'. Pretty shoddy.
DISCLAIMER: I do not really understand IT and base the above on stuff I read on the Guardian website.
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Snowy, youre absolutely right with everything you said above. Was that a copy and paste from Guardian site?
Youre right, you cant put all your eggs in one basket, and in the case of such a large userbase such as blackberry, you should put your eggs in about as many baskets are you can afford!
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even medium companies that are nowhere near the size of RIM have some contingency plan/disaster recovery in place.
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Generally if anythings free you'll get exactly what you pay for.
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and even companies like Google and Hotmail get that wrong sometimes.
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how would you be able to tell anyone you'd seen a flotilla of gunboats rampaging up the Thames if your phone isn't working?
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I'd just open the window. I'm sure I'd hear it from here.
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And it's playing havoc with satellite TV.
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This one was a classic..pingu goes fishing..starring sammy seal
www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTWv63RyLP8
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Some comedy gold here... post-casting interviews for East London based 'reality' TV show.
"What is your band called?
Joshua: Haiku.
Do you only sing and write in haikus?
Chris: Not really, it’s just a nice sounding name. I’m a writer too, so the name just made sense."
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Joshua 24, Hairdresser
Chris 19, Unemployed.
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but they occasionally contact me at work about advertising space. I have actually suggested that slogan to them...
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"Are you a hipster?
No. I’m not a hipster because I’m really into the 90s style."
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Awful event awful people. Its insane. A lot of violence hence the NSFW
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This video shows me Catalans are no good at having a proper fight.
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mate of mine lived in Barcelona for a while. He said the first time he witnessed a Spanish bar fight, everyone in the bar reacted while he sat calmly with his drink - it looked to him like two pissed blokes having a hug...
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The plan was tie ourselves together. They will call the police.
They didn't call the police. Utter bullshit.
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cultural exchange, if they sent a load of Mancunians to Manchuria, and vice versa.
*Phones up Channel 4 Commissioning Director to pitch 'A Tale of Two Mancs'*
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Mancs for the Memories...
what with TV program makers relying on puns so much these days
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I think they got off quite lightly
To cheer everyone up, here's a bull the other day, goring a matador under the chin and up through the eyeball. Hurray!
The bull however/obviously suffered a drawn out and excruciating death. Boooo!
articles.latimes.com/2011/oct/10/news/la-heb-bullfighting-injury-risky-behavior-20111010
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Also, the localized ads for that article showed one for a mechanical bull. Hubba hubba!
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A lot of cowardly people there. HINT. They are not the protesters.
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Old boy stripping a woman protester. Sign of a pure class act that.
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and /twopumpsandasquirt the same thing then? Explains a lot.
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...I would have just 'accidentally' released the bull. That would shown those darn hippies what for!
Luckily i'm against bull fighting...and not a psychopath...and not in Spain...or the owner of a bull fighting ring...or a bull...
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fucking scum
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Me and two friends have spent the past month slaving over this. Please take a minute to take a look and provide some feedback.
We are looking for funding if anyone is interested in investing.
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that all the pictures must come from the Daily Mail.
It's like an extra challenge that we give ourselves.
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www.ap.org/
they aren't the Daily Mail
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We're supposed to erase that. Not everyone in the team is very competent.
Which picture you find the best HT?
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boring joke that was hardly funny in the first place
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We're trying to get you to post on to /talk as well as here. As they would love to see it, and like getting requests for money.
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Well it wasn't Stubbo. I don't think she's talking to me on twitter any more. And I quite liked her :-(
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I'm interested in funding, how's about a curly wurly and a dairylea triangle for 90% of your company?
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you're supposed to nag him to make up financial projections for at least three or four minutes before crushing his dreams.
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...one day. And then posted a link which is also his username.
dmcocks does not understand how to make friends on the links board, and we fear for his safety.
(Incidentally real response: not my sort of thing, but however you get your jollies, fair enough. If you actually want an "investor", you'd need to explain how they would financially benefit. You may mean "donor")
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This is blatent self promotion.
You can have my curly wurly for spotting it
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we haven't signed the paperwork yet, I have to do due diligence on you and everything. Until then, the curly wurly is MINE, bwah ha ha ha
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Give me your wallet our i'll duff yer up, init.
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