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# I have gone all arty before bed.


so you can have that.

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:10, archived)
# show us yer art!
 
ART OUT FOR THE LADS, &C.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:12, archived)
# That is like
trying to look through strained glass . . .
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:14, archived)
# ...'strained'...glass?...

...SWEEET DREEAMS!!!...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:20, archived)
# Very . . . strained !
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:24, archived)
# ...i just had a religious experience from your gif...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:31, archived)
# Shekshay !
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:39, archived)
# Oooooooooooooo...satin sheets...
...i prefer canvas...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:15, archived)
# ARTZ
ಠ_ಠ
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:35, archived)
# SOMETIMES THERE IS ART
SOMETIMES MY LEG HURTS.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:46, archived)
# I should totally be an art critic.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:46, archived)
# I would like to get paid for that action.
 
THIS EXHIBITION WAS TURGID PISSWATER. THE PERPRETATORS OF THIS INSIPID TRAVESTY OUGHT TO BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES!!
I HAVE SEEN MORE EXPRESSIVE BRUSHWORK ON MY MORNING SHITWIPES
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:49, archived)
# I was thinking more along the lines of "HERE IS A PICTURE. I AM THIRSTY AND MORE THAN A LITTLE BIT AROUSED."
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:53, archived)
# maybe you could start one of those weblog things.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:02, archived)
# I have too many of those already, and I'm starting another one about the shitrags right now.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:31, archived)
# AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NO FUCK TAKE THEM AWAY
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:32, archived)
# YES
AND RATE EVERYTHING ON THE SHITRAG SCALE.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:50, archived)
# AFTER VIEWING THESE SO-CALLED ARTWORKS I HAD TO GO STRAIGHT HOME AND SCRUB MYSELF WITH BLEACH
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:51, archived)
# neato.
i went to bed with art.

and gave it a terrible infection of the gonads.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:48, archived)
# cleanse the earth!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:52, archived)
# haha! that's great.
remember i mentioned oamos to you? it's working again, so try it out.

www.oamos.com/
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:54, archived)
# on a first glimpse that was horribly confusing.
but I don't know how to control it yet.

I searched for "kittens"
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:59, archived)
# i searched b3ta and set the slider more toward 'entertaining'.
do a vanity search too, of course.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:01, archived)
# DESTROYYYYYYY!!!...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:04, archived)
# i searched 'rapitinui' withg the slider to the right.
there are enormous magenta planes that fly around. did you make them?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:12, archived)
# arrrrrggghhh no none of that makes any sense.
 
I tried searching on my name, got a bunch of unrelated b3ta stuff.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:42, archived)
# oh well.
i saw some odd stuff that made me laugh. porn searches are a hoot too.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:46, archived)
# Cream on my Disraeli Gears...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:40, archived)
# Diraeli Gears rules.
This is cool.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:45, archived)
# Wheeeeee!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:51, archived)
# Never miss a shift . . .
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:54, archived)
# ...yeah...i'm not tired at all...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:02, archived)
[challenge entry] Keep the lantern lit !
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:06, archived)
# will do...........and the amp turned up...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:09, archived)
# to 11
I hope.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:11, archived)
# oh yeah...everyone loves a loud bass...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:14, archived)
# You're on the line of fire !

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:13, archived)
# ...careful...i 'bite'...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:17, archived)
# Through the shield ?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:22, archived)
# ...i'll use my secret weapon...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:33, archived)
# woo to that
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:45, archived)
# baked ginger is awfully good.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:50, archived)
#
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# DONT YOU KNOCK MY MASTERPIECE OFF THE BOARD WITH YOUR 5 MINUTE MS PAINT TRASH!!!1
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:13, archived)
# DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:14, archived)
# No. I do not.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:16, archived)
# Me either :(
I was told you had the answers..
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:16, archived)
# Correct case and sentence structure.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:19, archived)
# Its a miracle.
I can see!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:54, archived)
# Also how rude, top picture as always.
Athough my favourites of yours are your pointy-vectory-style thingies
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:57, archived)
# NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:13, archived)
# HUNH HUNH HUNH HUNH HUNH HUNH
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:15, archived)
# THEN HE POKES HIS COCONUT INTO THE LETTERPRESS, SEE?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:35, archived)
# HURRR HURRR HURRR.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:13, archived)
# UNH UNH UNH UNH UNH UNH UNH
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:15, archived)
# AAU
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:16, archived)
# HMGN HMGN HMGN HMGN HMGN HMGN HMGN HMGN
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:20, archived)
# wipe that smirk off your face!...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:43, archived)
# smirky.
those vertical lines make it.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:52, archived)
# HELLO GUYS
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:57, archived)
# YOU KNOW WHAT SCREW YOU GUYS THIS TOOK 2 HOURS IN FLASH 8 TO DO
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:01, archived)
# I DO NO UNDERSTAND THIS PLZ
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:05, archived)
# ITS MY SATIRE ON THE CURRENT DECLINE IN LITERATURE IN AMERICA AND BRITAIN
WHAT ARE YOU DENSE?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:10, archived)
# HE IS DENISE.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:11, archived)
# I KNEW IT
ITS LIKE SAILING THROUGH CUSTARD!!!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# OH WITH YOUR EYES SO BLUE
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# filthy heart and swollen hips.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:51, archived)
# Load up times are a bitch on an abacus.
Save must have taken decades.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:06, archived)
# LOOK EITHER MAKE A BART TO GO WITH IT OR GO RAIN ON SOMEONE ELSE'S PARADE :(((
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:10, archived)
# I DON'T LIKE MATT'S TOWNS FOLK.
HIS FEZ FAGS ARE MUCH MORE FUN.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:14, archived)
# YOU KNOW WHAT JUST TOOK ME TWO HOURS?
MY LUNCHBREAK.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# DID YOU GO TO SUBWAY LOL
LOL BAD SERVICE LOL
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:13, archived)
# So this guy goes to a psychoanalyst
and the analyst says, "so what's the problem".
And the guy says, "I'm a tepee, I'm a pup-tent, I'm a tepee, I'm a pup-tent, I'm a tepee, I'm a pup-tent"
And the analyst says to him, "Ah, I think I see what the trouble is: SHITRAGS".
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:15, archived)
# I've done some in-depth invetigating over the last few days.
Soon there will be a website dedicated to the vacant block.

The vacant block with a small brick shed and a massive satellite dish. And shitrags.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:20, archived)
# Top invetigating my friend.
Massive satellite dish, eh? The shit thickens.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:21, archived)
# It's not very good regardless.
And turn off your caps key. Then, I suspect you're being daft anyway
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:58, archived)
# IS HE USING HIS CAPS KEY?
 
THAT CAN LEAD TO A SERIOUS BEATDOWN AROUND HERE, LET ME TELL YOU
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:09, archived)
# ...homer on drugs?...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:41, archived)
# Can you be my friend?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:56, archived)
# I CAN.
I CHARGE VERY LITTLE CASHES. YOU WANT?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58, archived)
# make love
long time?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:10, archived)
# FOR SEVENTEEN HOURS.
GAZ ME FOR CYBERS, KAY YEA?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:26, archived)
# YES!!!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58, archived)
# yes.
 
ARE YOU LOOKING FOR A FUNTIME
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:00, archived)
# SORRY I REACHED MY FRIEND LIMIT
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:07, archived)
# I've done that three times.
Two low limits and this new 99.

AND, NO I WON'T USE THREE SLOTS FOR YOU. NAAAAAA!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:11, archived)
# I MEANT MY IRL FRIEND LIMIT.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:16, archived)
# IRL? WHAT'S THE URL FOR THAT?
[/;-)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:18, archived)
# i saw some cherries you might like!...
...heh heh.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:46, archived)
# ha!
i see what you did there
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 11:58, archived)
# yes, but it'll cost you.
nothing's free these days.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:58, archived)
# Are all trailers the same

or is it just me?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:37, archived)
# logo lol logo lol lol logo googol google logo lol
yes.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:40, archived)
# thought so.
'nings all by the way.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:44, archived)
# OLOGOL.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41, archived)
# OLOGOL.
OLOGOL.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41, archived)
# OLOGOL.
OLOGOL.
OLOGOL.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41, archived)
# IT WAS A TIME OF WARRR.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:42, archived)
# Yes
Arf, and woo.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:43, archived)
# OLOGOL.
ARGHHHHH.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:43, archived)
# You just missed your 10,000th post too
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:46, archived)
# FUCKANS.
THIS SHIT ALWAYS HAPPENS TO ME.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:47, archived)
# you forgot snogging.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:01, archived)
# Yes!...someone who understands...
...and is fed up like the rest of us... movies are just diversions from reality!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:48, archived)
# it's worse than you think.
all movies are the same.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:31, archived)
# Hahah
:D
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:30, archived)
# Hooray!
Great work as usual Mr Ftang :)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:37, archived)
# i found this slightly amusing
then i clicked some of the links. awesome
i love them especially the bond one
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:44, archived)
# I THINK IT'S HIS LUNG
 

 
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:19, archived)
# HIS LUNG
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:20, archived)
# OMFG WEEN TONIGHT YES
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:20, archived)
# WEEN?
RLY?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:21, archived)
# YA RLY!
 
they haven't been over here since '97.
Recorded output hasn't been hugely satisfying in a while but I bet they still rock balls.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:23, archived)
# So you're seeing them?
Lucky.

Also, mofaha said Pony was the 60s. xp
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:27, archived)
# Hell yeah!
Seen 'em in '95 and '97, too.

Chocolate & Cheese was a fine album.
www.ween.net/aids.mp3
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:36, archived)
# From '97 to now
seems quite a long time for them to not go to NZ. We don't have good enough venues for really good bands to ever come play here. xp

I would totally listen to that song right now (it's a good 'un) but I am listening to the White Stripes. And I haven't done that in forever.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:38, archived)
# I wouldn't do that ever lol
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41, archived)
# Listen to the White Stripes?
I'm sure you wouldn't listen to a lot of what I do. But I promise I like some good bands, too. :]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:42, archived)
# I quite like the Raconteurs, though.
 
Jack White's not all bad.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:45, archived)
# Oh
Broken Boy Soldiers. It's a really good album. I mean, he's got talent. But in the White Stripes, like, well, the drummer sucks. Which is unfortunate. But they make simple happy pop tunes, so I quite like to listen to them once in a while.

Also, mofaha got me addicted to Radiohead.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:50, archived)
# I think I've posted this link before:
www.dresdendolls.com/media_site/downloads/liveandunreleased/2003-10-29.SevenNation.mp3

NOOOO! NOT MY INDIE CREDIBILITY!

oh, and this too:
Doorbell with a real drummer
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:53, archived)
# Well
I like the Dresden Dolls. :D

Wait, is this actually the White Stripes? Or is this the Dresden Dolls?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58, archived)
# it's Brian and Amanda taking the piss.
 
take a look at the audio/video download sections on their site, lots of fun things.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:01, archived)
# Okay,
I figured they were taking the piss. hahah

I went to see them (with panic At The Disco. Shut up) and my mum asked me if Amanda was a man dressed as a woman. It made me sad.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:13, archived)
# Amanda is AWESOMENESS dressed as a woman.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:36, archived)
# YES!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:16, archived)
# you might say it's self-indulgent
 

 
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:12, archived)
# That's a bit
very nice. :]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:16, archived)
# That's
pretty fucking awesome right there.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:17, archived)
# anyone can see the signs
mittens in the summertime
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PITY, YOU ARE TOO KIND

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3b61LIDczY
ohhhhhh I can't wait for them to come back
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:28, archived)
# "hasn't been hugely satisfying"? Have you HEARD The Friends EP?
HAAAAAAAAAAAARG.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:52, archived)
# the last one I got was Shinola vol.1.
Starts out fantastic, right up to "Big Fat Fuck" and then kinda tails off.

Although the stoner guitar solos are good to zone out with.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:57, archived)
# ashally I should really buy "Quebec".
 
I hardly ever put on White Pepper, though "Even If You Don't" is incredibly catchy.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:05, archived)
# AAAARGH.
kollegedaily.typepad.com/product_shop_nyc/files/ween_friends.mp3

IT'S NOT EVEN POSSIBLE TO ENJOY THIS ON AN IRONIC LEVEL.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:06, archived)
# ahhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhahhahhh WUT?!
 
HAND ME MY GLOWSTICKS
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:08, archived)
# wikipedia says
that "Friends" appears on the new album in a "substantially different arrangement".

I WILL TELL YOU WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TONIGHT, IF THEY ARE PUSHING THE NEW STUFF
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:10, archived)
# personally I am hoping they will throw "Weed Whore" in as an encore
 
but that may be too much to ask
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# I was pretty underwhelmed by La Cucaracha as a whole.
I don't think they'll ever get back to 'pure guava' levels of awesome.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:10, archived)
# oh, you have it?
Is it still worth buying?

I'm a bit obsessive when it comes to collecting.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# Buy it if you like easy listening MOR country music,, with a bit of eurotrance thrown in for no reason.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:18, archived)
# daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:33, archived)
# Made it out of my own sandals. Here, let me light it for you.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:27, archived)
# those crazy kids...
...with the words and the talking and all...(?)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:51, archived)
# Corr!
OLOGOL?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:42, archived)
# OLLOGOLLOPOLLOOZA.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:45, archived)
# 1 TICKET PLS.
WHEN START?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:45, archived)
# 2ND OF OLLOGOMEMBER.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:06, archived)
# IT'S IN MY DAIRY.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:25, archived)
# whatcha smokin' man?...
paisley parsley?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:04, archived)
# I AM SMOKING: PURE GUAVA
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:29, archived)
# fucking paisley hippies.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:03, archived)
# working on a print

did a sketch on paper, cleaned it up in tatty. It'll be a woodblock print so I really can't go too crazy with shading. Edges are kind of sharp but for developing the print i'm ok with that.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:19, archived)
# hooray for neglected murderesses.
 
woo!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:20, archived)
# i would never neglect a murderess.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 4:52, archived)
# I really like that.
All the colors, and the sort of simplicity. Horrah!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:20, archived)
# Yes.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:24, archived)
# That's lovely
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:26, archived)
# Feeling lucky? punk?

and i can't get to sleep :(
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:13, archived)
# you'll fall asleep at your desk eventually, I'm sure.
Just don't try to sleep.

Also, woo to the pic. :]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:15, archived)
# sounds good to me
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:17, archived)
# :D
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:21, archived)
# looks like
he's busting for a piss
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:18, archived)
# it's dirty harry
he pisses his pants wherever he wants
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:19, archived)
# Nice
Woo!
Asking for it tho:

:)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:26, archived)
# ha ha ha
i thought of doing that. good one!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:39, archived)
# YOU ARE B3TAN. WEKLOM.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:46, archived)
# Tankyou
Tankyou ver much.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:54, archived)
# BRING IT!...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:53, archived)
# dirty harry
have a pea
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:29, archived)
# Come one, come all, into 1984
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:02, archived)
# it's like a real-life ignore button!
:D
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:03, archived)
# Hahah
:]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:03, archived)
# look at his wee 'stache!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:04, archived)
# It's his upper lip
but it really does look like a hitler 'tache. I know. :[
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:05, archived)
# If that's his upper lip
what's the thing below the line below that?!

He has three lips? Give me this boy's phone number!

Also: Do you always draw the feet like that for style purposes?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:06, archived)
# No, no!
The middle line is the split between the upper and lower lips. The lines of the upper and lower lips only suggest them, not actually draw them.

EDIT: Yeah. The feet are like, my signature sort of.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:08, archived)
# Ahh riote
I think by the general rules of simplistic visualisations, you draw a long line for the closed mouth line.
Then a smaller line underneath for the bottom of the lower lip.

Thusly:


Don't ask me why, but in minimalist representations it just looks better and more easily identifiable.

Also: The three joined up creases are trademarks too?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:11, archived)
# Yeah
that's what I usually do. But I did that today. I dunno why.

Uhm...not really. I don't think. It just happens. :]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:13, archived)
# I'm waiting until you do some realisticish drawings
You know, not on photoshop, not from reference kind of thing.
(I tried drawing two women embracing the other day without reference, not even in particularly difficult poses, but just didn't know how to get it to look right)

Unfortunately i'm the typical kind of cynical say-what-you-really-critically-feel-about-something-rather-than-just-saying-its-great-and-being-encouraging fellow.
As such, I pretty much believe one has to feel horribly outclassed and terrible to ever improve greatly at something.

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:22, archived)
# I am
terrible at realism! I tried a water bottle the other day.

That's about the best I can do.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:25, archived)
# From reference?
Honestly the only way you can improve is to forge your self loathing into a sword and then press on with in.
Also if your art teacher hasn't done perspective yet, kill him and have him replaced.

I mean I look at JollyJack and just want to hack off his hands and sew them to my own, hence why I refuse to use reference and just keep working.
So eventually i'll build up a solid mental stash of perspective, anatomy and poses to be able to draw imaginary scenes and catgirls licking shotguns.

Top tip: drawing in biro is helpful. Then if you make mistakes you just keep drawing over the lines in a vaguely expressionist fashion and also learn to work any mistakes out.
You can generally just keep layering the drawing until it looks right, like an oil painting.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:30, archived)
# Yeah.
I was really really bored in English.

I don't get art until next school year. I don't know what the curriculum will be like, though. I'm hoping to get some perspective and such, though. For perspective I've been doing a lot of googling on vanishing points and stuff.

I don't really like JollyJack's stuff, and here's why: He's really talented. He knows perspective, proportion, comic illustration, anatomy, all that. And he wastes it on those (IMO) shitty drawings of misproportioned catgirs and SWT. It's just unfortunate, to me, like wasted talent.

Biro? Really? Okay. I will remember that one. :]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:35, archived)
# Welcome to the club.
JJ is a founding member BTW. [/;-D

Reality is, those are toss offs. His
talent is dark, and it's the ones
between the T & A that count.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:39, archived)
# Wait wait...
he's a founding member? Why? If he doesn't like what he draws, then why not stop?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:41, archived)
# People in London wore black arm bands...
...to morn the 'death' of Sherlock.

And he's not that well paid at his day job.

But that's just my view. Ask him. He might answer.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:47, archived)
# Ooh.
But...what has his day job got to do with it? Does he not get to be an artist?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:53, archived)
# He sells his drawings and comics.
Or --anyone can be an artist... as long
as you add starving to the front of it. [/;-D
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58, archived)
# Sherlock?
Mourning?

Can you elucidate me please?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:58, archived)
# Trekers and Jedi have nothing on the mania that killing him off led to.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherlock_Holmes#The_Great_Hiatus
Mass culture, as the interbutts knows it, was born.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:03, archived)
# Well I meant what that had to do with JJ
But I fear this thread of conversation has gone on so long that no-one is reading anymore.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:06, archived)
# A world without large breasted rodents!!!
He'd be hanged, drawn and quartered by outraged nerds.


Indeed it has, and I've done my bit as JJ's apologist for now.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:09, archived)
# TOSS OFFS LOL
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:48, archived)
# Turn a rude phrase? Me?
*plays first two bars of Steiß Bewegung  on a glass harmonium*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 3:34, archived)
# I have no idea what SWT is (south west trains presumably)
Well i've never actually seen JollyJack draw anything other than the kind of stylistic characters he draws, that's to say i've never seen him do anything Frank Miller style or something.
But it may be a case of his drawing ability and style resting in that kind of comic drawing. As for catgirls and stuff goes, many believe that the ultimate aim of art is to portray the human form.
If he wants to imbelish it a bit, I don't see the difference. I think most people if they could draw really well would want to portray men/women in vaguely romantic/erotic/pornographic situations. For the same reason they read and write romantic novels and literature.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:44, archived)
# squirrels with tits.
But i didn't feel like typing it out. Now I have. oh well. *shrugs*
No, I understand that, and like, I hear what you're saying. But it's just my opinion. I've never liked that big titted, overly skinny style, and then why you add the ears and tail, I just dislike it even more. ;]
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:48, archived)
# Yes but most likely that's just a 'urgh men all like big boobs and blondes' type opinion
Whatever your feeling towards his and his fan's motivations towards the art, it is essentially only a singular perspective.

Equally if you suddnely got ridiculously good at drawing someone could say, 'typical androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy types'. What a waste.
There's nothing against drawing what you like, although I suppose he may not neccessarily be overly fond of it given the amount of irony is some of the stuff.
Don't let whatever stereotypes or own life experiences steep your view of the validity of his work.

Also: I'm looking forwards to the androgynous emo/goth/whatever boy erotica.
*stares at watch*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:56, archived)
# It's not.
It's just a 'if you poked she'd just fall. that's a bit silly' kind of opinion. ;]

Okay, good point. Fair, and all. Just unfortunate. I dunno. I'd love to see him post something else.

Also: Well, it's not gonna appear on your watch...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:12, archived)
# that's exactly what I've been saying about JJ, too.
 
but he never replies to me in his threads.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:47, archived)
# I was including you in that club.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:53, archived)
# BUMCHIN
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:24, archived)
# How dare you mock my beard
I'll set my cat on you. She smells of white noise.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:25, archived)
# What does
white noise smell like?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:28, archived)
# Bells
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:31, archived)
# Oh alright.
Our cats smell like mum's perfume. Since she can't let them stay on solid ground for more than 5 minutes.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:35, archived)
# haha
hairy bum chin
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:35, archived)
# G'morning, and g'night.
Tis woo
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:06, archived)
# Thank you.
Are you g'night-ing cos you're leaving?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:07, archived)
# I like this lots :)
Sorry I didn't reply before, I was chatting with my best friend :)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 2:40, archived)
# the coroner said
"The amount of poison in this man's system was in the hundreds and thousands"


RIS
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:51, archived)
# cayke!
g'night all!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:54, archived)
# RIS = fail
:(
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:54, archived)
# sorted
ta
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:57, archived)
# your eyes
may have failed but the OP has made his point with some subtle shoppery.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:57, archived)
# I'm not bothered about the risness.
Its a nice pic.
I'm going now. :/
G'night.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:55, archived)
# nyom nyom nyom
"....That last one was a bit almondy."
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:02, archived)
# marc almondy?
arsenick anyone?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:05, archived)
# Mmmmm, deathcake
In other news:
BEE DISCO
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:04, archived)
# You are too board-savvy to be a n00b.
WHICH REGULAR ARE YOU?!?!
/witchhunt
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:17, archived)
# OMG RUMBLED! TO THE ESCAPE PODS!
Seriously though, I've just been lurking here for ages :)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:24, archived)
# your image hosting sucks.
I did see the pic b4 it went awol though - good stuff.

edit: that's better. never use geoshitties for anything.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:07, archived)
# ^^
it does doesn't it.

B3ta's hosting is a bit sporadic at the moment, although I think I've sorted it now.

phew...internets
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:11, archived)
# it doesn't say how many cakes he ate.
 
I NEED TO KNOW THE LETHAL DOSE
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:13, archived)
# actually
I don't think it was the cakes at all.

He died of Wales
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:16, archived)
# this is a matter for science.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:27, archived)
# Well, what they can't see won't hurt them ;)
Photobucket
de-ris

edit: Now with added real youtube video!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:28, archived)
# I was just reading about this.
I like how the few hours of YouTube outage seems to have the same amount of coverage as those five severed Internet Tubes.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:40, archived)
# Well, the undersea cables snaps weren't really anything (as I understand it)
because that kind of cable break happens pretty much daily somewhere in the world, and they are constantly being fixed. They just don't normally happen in such a way that a whole region gets cut off.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:35, archived)
# i was hoping that that would play
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:40, archived)
# I was hoping for a dancing zebra named nigel
But you can't have everything
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:43, archived)
# I bet if your name is Nigel
and you are dancing in your golden cave then you are laughing right now.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:48, archived)
# Would I be injured
If I pointed out that unless your sig is addressed to someone named "twat", it should have two "you"s in it? (Pasanonic has put you back on ignore. Yes you, you twat)
And if is to "twat", it should be capitalised
*hides*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:05, archived)
# They know who they are.
I was allowing for my colloquialism to creep in. I apologise. I shall take great care to see that you don't bother me again.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:10, archived)
# FÜTTER MEIN EGO
(EGO, EGO, EGO EGO)
 
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:40, archived)
# ^
This



/disappointed blog
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:44, archived)
# hang on while youtube processes the video...
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:56, archived)
# SORTED NOW :D
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 1:02, archived)
# this cop

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:21, archived)
# I don't not approve of Bad-wagons (sic), but ...
when it involves fonts and kerning someone has
to step into the fray ... and that's RockWell Extra,
King of Heavy Fonts (with a lower case
'j' for a knob) ...



PS Living berlin now and this thing of making
stuff outta letters makes me feel at home ...
and my cock is shaped like a 'j' - so all good.

Back to real art ...

(PPS Extra geek points if anyone can tell me which PC text drawn graphical adventure the power orb is from)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:48, archived)
# *tempted to hop on bandwagon*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:52, archived)
# Gis a power orb.
cahm on gissit!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:00, archived)
# get down to level 10 or 11 and
fecking find your own!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:01, archived)
# *waits patiently for 7 shape vectors*
::D:D:D::DD LOVE
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:12, archived)
#
Image Hosted by ImageShack.us
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:20, archived)
# He specified a multitude of vectors
You impudent fool!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:21, archived)
# Ima guessing NetHack?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:20, archived)
# My good friend

Mount Gay Rum and I have just watched The Royal Tenenbaums for the first time with my girlfriend.
It was bloody good!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:36, archived)
# Dancing?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:38, archived)
# Is that a squash?
I almost got one of those at the market yesterday, maybe next week.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:40, archived)
# Butternut squashes are awesome roasted.
Judging from the quality of them at the market, they're going out of season now though.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)
# TJ
I found this. I never want to leave a chap uncredited.
www.b3ta.com/board/7167904
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:45, archived)
# That's pretty nice.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:48, archived)
# That's very impressive.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:49, archived)
# Utterly ace stuff
Woo
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:53, archived)
# Shove them in the coals when you are having a BBQ
Wrapped in foil but with a few bits sticking out so they can go black.
HEAVEN
Edit: They grow here all year round and are cheap as chips :)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:04, archived)
# Also good in risottos,
especially with chorizo.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:05, archived)
# have you stolen
the draft to my new book "parenting the Zoot way" ?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:06, archived)
# Explain
I have not referred to childrens.
*scratches head*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:09, archived)
# sorry
I just saw "shove them in coals" and was away ;)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:10, archived)
# hahahahaha
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:11, archived)
# they make good soup
but they're shit at hoovering.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)
# You need to spend more time training them.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:45, archived)
# i'm still training the cat
it has learned that when i glare at it, it had better fucking run.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:46, archived)
# That is an important lesson.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:47, archived)
# it is currently learning what it's like
to spend the night outside after biting my finger.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:51, archived)
# aww poor kitty.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:52, archived)
# poor kitty?
you should see my finger! teeth marks, man!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:55, archived)
# My cats liked to claw at my back.
they were evil.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:57, archived)
# all cats are evil
it's part of what makes them cats.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:00, archived)
# My cat has learnt to run up the stairs really loudly and fast
then burst into the bedroom and say Hello in a really high pitched weirdy cat voice, in the middle of the night.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:49, archived)
# HELLO IS U ASLEEPS YET LOL JUS CHEKIN
*dashes away*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:51, archived)
# It also sleeps in my room
and breathes really loudly, almost snoring but not quite, despite the fact it must only have tiny catty lungs.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:54, archived)
# Cats are brill.
Give not a shit.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:55, archived)
# I've often wondered how much training and what methods you'd need
to train military grade attack cats. They are fairly intelligent, in that they basically don't give a shit if you tried to draft them, but if you managed to enrage and train them.
They'd be tiny, fast and impossible to shoot; then you could release millions into an enemy city.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:01, archived)
# Ceiling Cat'd be excellent for the CIA.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:02, archived)
# you don't need to train them
just drop them to within 3 feet of your enemy, then drop a water balloon on them. fun for all the family!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:04, archived)
# I'm not sure how logistically practical that is for an on-the-move army of today
Personally I think they are a lost cause and i'm working on making a horse whose skin is tortoise like plates.
WAR HORSE!

*is a massive pacifist really*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:07, archived)
# you are a pacifist?
then you can never be a part of my new world!
BWAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!!!!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:10, archived)
# I'm not THAT much of a pacifist
When I can sit here ignoring the constant battles of society and civilisation, then yes I am.
Suddenly install an awful dictatorship and i'd be out there with a rapier fighting people to the death while making witty quips.

Literally that's one of the few reasons I don't just commit suicide.
*waits for new world order*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:13, archived)
# ah, right.
you can be in charge of giving the henchmen nametags. only the ones with no names get killed by do-gooders.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:16, archived)
# I'm afraid you misunderstand me
I'd be the one fighting improbably against the dictatorship.
It would be I, with my witty quips and usual hatred of all humanity and society, which would CRUSH YOU!

I am Captain Cliched Englishman! I even speak like David Niven and everything.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:20, archived)
# ah.
then the game is afoot, mr. jeru.
*strokes cat*
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:24, archived)
# *detonates bomb cat*
Checkmate.

And please, call me Leslie. Oh, you're a smoking charred corpse...well call me Nigel then.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:31, archived)
# CURSE YOU, NIGEL!!!!
I SHALL RETURN!

tomorrow. g'night!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:39, archived)
# they never say meow!
it's always some weird cat noise that is totally irritating!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:53, archived)
# Fun* Fact
Cats only meow, or rather make the high pitched meowing noises, at humans or in the presense of humans.
At other cats they'll either hiss, purr, snear, that kind of thing.

*may be lie
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:56, archived)
# i told her straight
either she learns to speak human or i'm not listening.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:59, archived)
# that sounds like a funcat.
 
PICS PLZ?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:19, archived)
# Hallo thar. I has a fantom of the opra mask.
I lieks your peirodic tabel.

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:29, archived)
# eeeeeeee!
 
GRAINY TORTIE
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:44, archived)
# less talk
more suck.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:46, archived)
# me
or the hoover?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:50, archived)
# You need training?
what the fuck kind of agency have I employed here? ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:54, archived)
# me love you long time ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:56, archived)
# you will be out the
fucking door after a bacon butty like everyone else Miss;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:59, archived)
# yay!
middle bacon, i hope
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:06, archived)
# now you have just given me the idea to make you all fight for it.
now then. How to get 'you all' out of my mind and into my home without the wife murdering me.
I'll take suggestions.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:09, archived)
# Pokéballs.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:11, archived)
# No, he needs to get them in before they can poke his balls.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:12, archived)
# ^this
or you could hide us and sneak us in. have you got a size 78 coat?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:14, archived)
# I think
waiting for holidays is safer. Are you free in April? She's off to the Mann Isles with the boy.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:23, archived)
# i'm never free
but i'm often available ;)
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:26, archived)
# I made soup this evening
Caulliflower + Broccoli, twas very nice!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:51, archived)
# cauliflower makes it bitty :(
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:54, archived)
# I like chunky soup,
the bittier the better.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:06, archived)
# last time i made soup with cauli in it
it went down as if it was coming up :x
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:09, archived)
# CHAKA CHAKA PATA PON!


(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:47, archived)
# Great innit.
I'm hooked!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:53, archived)
# totally

(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:05, archived)
# Conan the Destroyer
a sinister late night tickle
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:41, archived)
# I'm now onto father ted.
Conan is a bit cheesy for my current state of mind.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)
# He just punched a camel unconscious
I can think of no sillier method to sleep :)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:45, archived)
# It tends to work quite well with my kids...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:55, archived)
# You need some extra big zip-lock bags.
Keep them lovely and fresh.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:56, archived)
# CAMEL BUKKAKE
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:48, archived)
#
*drinks*
;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:50, archived)
# I am smoking
and thinking about beddy byes.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:54, archived)
# I am considering
whether to smoke or drink some more rum, maybe both?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:56, archived)
# I have rum
but it's strictly for use with the lovely coffee that my mate grinds. He's a GOD when it comes to coffee.
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:01, archived)
# I have a lovely Kiwi lady
who I buy my coffee from at the weekend, she's a diamond!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:04, archived)
# Dancing beverages!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:42, archived)
# Needs more booooze
*drinks*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:45, archived)
# MORE DANCING
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:46, archived)
# These are both slightly fucking rah
Woo
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:06, archived)
# FASTA!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 0:14, archived)
[challenge entry] Kit
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:13, archived)
# bollocks
thats the second re-ex this evening
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:16, archived)
# If there was a superhero called B3taman...
...his greatest nemesis would be The Red-Ex.

This should totally be a comic series...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:24, archived)
# SANS
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:20, archived)
# COMIC SANS
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:22, archived)
# Redex?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:24, archived)
# Yep
and it`s not even a comic sans one..
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:31, archived)
# Awww, shame.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:33, archived)
# hmm.
why would a fellow scouser wish to disguise him/herself?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:31, archived)
[challenge entry] I know its a tad lame but.....


Click for bigger (131KB)


EXTERMINATE!



btw its my first time so be gentle!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:05, archived)
# SALVIDOR DALIKS!
:D
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:06, archived)
# Salvidor Daliks!
rofl!!! :)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# :D
Does anybody have mario karts + wifi?
I'm itching for a race but nobody seems to be able to help :(
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:10, archived)
# Welcome, young first timer.
your picture confuses me greatly but it is always nice to welcome new persons.
Enter, kill a kitten, shout at the idiots, etc.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:13, archived)
# Fuck!
When I joined up I killed idiots and shouted at kittens! If only I had known I was doing it all wrong!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:16, archived)
# That is also acceptable
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:20, archived)
# a laudible
sentiment. however you killed not nearly enough.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:21, archived)
# They breed like Chinese rabbits!
I'm sorry!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:25, archived)
# Dalec Secks, more like.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:19, archived)
# It's the cocks coming out the side of his head isn't it?

(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:26, archived)
# Body Pass
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:40, archived)
# Again, you are fantastic at these.
*thoroughly well deserved click*

Edit: I hate shopping. I've found nothing I can afford that I want, and nothing that I want that I can afford.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:40, archived)
# i'll buy you a Freddo
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:46, archived)
# Ooooh yes please
I really want to get this, but it's not payday till tomorrow.

www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=6621090
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:48, archived)
# i think thats a wise financial investment
fetishwear always is
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:49, archived)
# It'd be to replace an almost identical one
which is now a bit too big (or really, not too small enough).
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:52, archived)
# manwife is a lucky fellow
my submissive found jesus and stopped indulging in such things
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:04, archived)
# I tell him this constantly.
I've never had a proper sub, but then I'm a switch so I dohn't think I could deal with a onesider.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:06, archived)
# their great, although people dont seem to understand when you give them instructions in public
but thats more of their problem, Being a switch would be much more useful cos you can enjoy play with more people but i couldnt imagine Submitting,
Just not my thing
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# I think being a woman makes it easier
loathe as I am to perpetuate stereotypes. I can order men around qutie happily, and have indulged in torture and other things before (of which I shall not go into here) but there's nothng and I mean NOTHING that I like more that being held down and forced to be silent as the grave.

This is what prompted me to start writing the book (The 21st Century Guide to Sexual Deviancy).
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:13, archived)
# i think the exchange of power works better male to female,
theres almost an air of humiliation play to a female dom in my opinion
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:15, archived)
# Usually, yes.
I don't particularly like to humiliate, just force, and when I was on the scene most of the guys I encountered were all about the shame factor.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:16, archived)
# i dont get that personally, but thats just not my kink i guess
my problem is i'm only eighteen so finding people who are willing to be open about their Kinks is hard,
but in my experience lots of young ladies are willing to submit but not many to dominate.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:19, archived)
# I'm 23, but I was on the scene from 16- 20.
On and off.

Generally I found it was older men who were willing to dominate- I suggest you find an older woman.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:21, archived)
# i wouldnt mind an older woman tbh, finding one would be harder but still
hmmmm... thats not a bad idea you know
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:23, archived)
# Is there a Bingo hall near you?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:24, archived)
# I saw that
and fucking guffawed. Well done.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:36, archived)
# I'm only going on logic.
I've never been dominated by a woman- if I'm with a woman (or should I say when I was) I was always the dominant party.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:24, archived)
# im very much a Dom
being dominated by a woman, by golly! i say! how demeaning :P
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:28, archived)
# I actually know a disturbing amount
about what the two of you are talking about.

The reason I haven't engage in any of this is because I would find it absolutely impossible to balance up with the rest of my personality.
I don't know how everyone else is, but I fear becoming an unbalanced duality.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:30, archived)
# then become a really dominating person :P
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:31, archived)
# I wasn't specifically talking about either domination or submission
Just BDSM and the kind of free sex (yes I know it really makes me sound like I don't know what the fuck i'm on about) movement in general.
Going through all kinds of experiences just doesn't gel with the rest of me, which is essentially an awful characiture of a PG Wodehouse character.

I imagine if I did get down to doing the stuff, while it's all well and good in the build and during. As soon as i'd climaxed, i'd just have a mental image of Jeeves staring at me and shaking his head.

*shudder*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:35, archived)
# stop confusing me.
do you take it up the arse or not? ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:37, archived)
# I take it with milk and two sugars, thank you very much.
Actually that sound worse.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:38, archived)
# well thats a very interesting way of looking at it
jeeves is....interesting...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:47, archived)
# Well alright then.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:35, archived)
# no penetration
and I'm all yours
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:22, archived)
# My least favourite part of it.
I don't want to bum boys, particularly. But they all bloody wanted me to.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:23, archived)
# Yeah, confuses me.
I'm all for being shouted at and being made to be the bitch but please. It's like lego. This bit goes in here, just don't break it.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:28, archived)
# I have no problems with anal sex
and certainly no problems with others who like to bum boys but really, what am I going to get out of it? I haven't got a penis.

Sex with women is entirely different, of course. I reserve the right to be totally nonsensical.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:30, archived)
# Well it's a humilation/ego/social roles type thing isn't it?
Realistically you'll unlikely to get any physical sensation, even with the use of the appropriate adaptors.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:32, archived)
# Fuck me.
Are you for hire? Can accommodate. Manchester and surrounding area.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:35, archived)
# Hah, my ex was from Stockport
his mum walked in on us mid sesh (his second ever, I do believe as I'd nicked his viginity earlier) and fucking made me get up and leave his bedroom.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:36, archived)
# aww.
did you need to make dinner? ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:39, archived)
# Hahaha no
but I did need to leave her little precious alone.

He had a very big willy for a 16 year old.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)
# all the boys want to be bummed by captain wow!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:29, archived)
# I'll be dom for both of you as
long as you can work out the cleaning and the beer fridge duties between you.
( wife needs a new housekeeper, not considered a couple ;))
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# *raises eyebrow* I'm not that kind of sub.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:11, archived)
# oh fuck the sex lark.
I just want my cars cleaned when my nephew is not in town ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:14, archived)
# LOVE YOU TOO, HONEY
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:16, archived)
# i genuinely do find this tragic
religion can be so destructive.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# it was a waste of a VERY GOOD submissive
its a fucking shame the christians got her.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:11, archived)
# the ultimate whip with the perennial gag
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:19, archived)
# does it come with a whip and gag
or are they sold separately.

I liked the pirate corset tho, that was hawt.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:50, archived)
# Different one is below
the maroon one would go awfully with my titian tresses.

I don't think it does come with either such things, but luckily I own both.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:51, archived)
# Yikes!
That's got me a bit hot under the collar that has...

Buy it!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:53, archived)
# I shall be doing.
And then doing my patented 'no I don't need the toilet this is a VERY SEXY SKIRT' waddle.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:56, archived)
# I love shopping
It's one of my favourite hobbies. I would so love to be a personal shopper...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:46, archived)
# I only like food and CD shopping.
Anything else is torture.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# food shopping is essential
guitar shopping is fun
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:49, archived)
# CD shopping with me is a very arduous task
I take too long, pick everything up I want, then decide how much I can spend and put most of it back again.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:50, archived)
# I want
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:48, archived)
# I couldn't even begin to imagine wearing the skirt
but that coat is superb! As a woman of hourglass proportions, I love anything that accentuates my waist whilst accommodating my enormous bust and round hips.

If I had all the moneys in the world I would buy them for you.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:52, archived)
# You're very sweet.
I have decided this is the ticket as well, as I am as you are.

And still, in the 21st century, they can't make a suit jacket that fits properly without having to pay 200 quid for a bespoke one.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:53, archived)
# have you tried Bravissimo?
they are also quite expensive, but they occasionally have good sale stuff. My bottom half is a good size 14, but with a 34G top, I find most things either gape at the chest or hang round the waist. You know what I mean...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:57, archived)
# 34G?
I remeasured myself today, I'm now a 34E (yay back size gone down). I just need to get BHS to confirm it.

Bravissimo do lovely bras but I bought one of their shirts and it was just all wrong.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:59, archived)
# a few years ago I lost a shitload of weight
and became a size 8-10. My chest didn't get any smaller than a 32E. It's like carrying bags of sugar around all day.

Most of the time I love being all curvy and womanly, but on bad days I hate the ugly pendulous bags of unsightly fat.

Today, however, is a good day. Mainly since I have lost a stone in the last seven weeks. Yay me!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:01, archived)
# I think I hate the week before my period the most
As I feel like my tits are going to rupture the skin. Plus, with them being bigger, there are The Hands of Others generally causing pain.

Well done you!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:03, archived)
# what I hate most
is that having big boobs seems to give everybody else in the world licence to look at / grope / comment upon them.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:05, archived)
# Unfourtunately
most men can't help it...

We do try though. Honest. :(
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:07, archived)
# I've always managed it.
Except for my girlfriend, who I do of course grope regularly.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:08, archived)
# Oh, don't get me wrong...
I manage too, mostly because women absolutely terrify me...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# 'They just look so comfy'.
Why thank you. I wasn't from fucking DFS, you know.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:07, archived)
# actual lol
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:12, archived)
# you sound like the Mrs
as I mentioned she is 34DD. That might not seem huge but she has a tiny back. And even now as she nears 40 years old and they near her ankles they are quite an impressive sight.

( don't squeeze into the wrong sized bra ladies. The discerning gentleman is not hooked by a Dita bust as he knows where it all lands due to experience. Be uplifted but comfy.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:08, archived)
# I am currently wearing one that's not too different
it's a 36E. I plan to spend about 200 quid on new bras this month, so shouldn't be for long.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:09, archived)
# I spend far too much
on brassiéres and the like. I don't do more than nod 'yes' at the colour and pay the bill though. But it works for us.
I'd treat you to a La Perla set were you not hitched and I could get away with it ;)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:12, archived)
# :D that'd be a great one to explain.
'Well no I've never met him, actually......well he seems perfectly normal......I bloody well shall not, do you know how much these cost?'
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:14, archived)
# haha. That
made even Mrs Zoot chuckle. ( now how do I get her to leave the room again?)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:19, archived)
# Set the clocks forward to 10am
then give her your credit card.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:22, archived)
# hehe
she has insisted that I tell you that she is independently wealthy.
( she is as well, she has earned more then me for about 5 years now.)
I can live on with that.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:26, archived)
# Tell her she should've married me.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:28, archived)
# hehe.
better late than never. She's gone but I appreciated it. ( and often will agree with you in future )
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:43, archived)
# Learn basic seamstresstry (i'm fairly sure that's utterly spelt wrong, or not even a word)
Then you can make whatever stuff you want.

Also I have just sneezed the entire lining of my throat out. Stupid colds.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:58, archived)
# sorry?
i read something about "enormous bust" and then i dont...know... i think... i got losted.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# The wonderful thing about you is
apart from the actual wording I foresaw this comment.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:56, archived)
# *hums, rocking softly*
"bust"
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:02, archived)
# That's it, I'm taking you to Rigby and Pellier.
Fun will most definitely ensue.

Either that or we'll need to buy you some new trousers.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:05, archived)
# what's that then?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:08, archived)
# Bespoke bra shop.
Generally attended by ladies with big boobies.

It's the dbroon birthday shop. Getting you out shall be the difficult bit. I'm expecting to have to entice you out with illegal substances and possibly Jane Goldman.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:11, archived)
# *flashes*
*steals wallet*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:58, archived)
# Oo
I really like that coat, it's beautiful!

Crikey, I've just seen the price tag! D:
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:56, archived)
# But worth it!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:59, archived)
# Oh, every penny, certainly.
But you can almost guarentee that the first time you wear it, some clott will spill red wine all down the front of it...
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:01, archived)
# Scotchguard?
Minders?

I shall employ dbroon and Dixon to be my minders.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:02, archived)
# you can't go wrong with a couple of burly Scots
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:03, archived)
# Well, one Scot and a Derbyshire skinhead.
I'd have them on leads, but I doubt they'd let me.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:08, archived)
# In which case
buy it! :D
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:03, archived)
# SHEEP!
The best b3tan ever.
*clicks*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:41, archived)
# *universe implodes*
You're being rather nice to people tonight.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:50, archived)
# I'm nice to the good
b3tans, it's an old ploy.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:57, archived)
# Oh right.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:19, archived)
# he's always nice to adults
he's the ice-cream man of b3ta.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:57, archived)
# Hmm
I believe you are correct.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:00, archived)
# That must be fucking inconvenient
in the summer months.

"Are you coming out dear?"
"Fuck off, i'm staying in the fridge."
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:00, archived)
# :D
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:01, archived)
# Thanks, that's made my day*
*may be lie
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:07, archived)
# FP Ahoy!!!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:41, archived)
# Fabulous!!!
*click*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:41, archived)
# AMAZING! houpla!
i am jealous of your talent
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:42, archived)
# Ahahah!
Absolutely spiffing wonderful!

*Great big sloppy click*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:42, archived)
# I dread to think how long these things take you.
Woo
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:43, archived)
# ^this
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:44, archived)
# A Couple of Hours
Plus an upsetting couple of weeks flailing around trying to come up with an idea
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# Judging from the number of people you've pulled out of lurking to comment,
that's time well spent.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:48, archived)
# Of which I am one :)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:50, archived)
# Don't you feel dirty, just watching us?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:52, archived)
# Me? Naaah
*secretly rubs thighs*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:54, archived)
# TGMTFH!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:57, archived)
# Evening, Sir
Sir
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:02, archived)
# hello chicken
sorry I was lack in spazzing back.
*big hugs*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:17, archived)
# Maybe you should ask us B3tards to suggest an idea
If you immediately delete any suggestions that contain the words "squirrel" "tits" and "yiff" there is a good an outside chance you will be left with some good suggestions.

(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:51, archived)
# Probably best to ignore all suggestions from Wasp Box or 4dam, too.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:54, archived)
# Of course
But only after having a good giggle at them.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# Funny
Squirrels with tits eh?

*writes idea in book*

Anyone got any ideas, they'll go to a good home?

(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# I'm thinking of something with mirrors
but have a feeling that you've done a mirror thing.
Is there a place where all of these are hosted so we could have a look to see what you've done so far?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:58, archived)
# Yes, I've done a mirror one before I'm afraid
Here are all the GIF anims I've done:
sheepfilms.co.uk/anims/animindex.htm

Or YouTube for longer stuff:
uk.youtube.com/user/sheepfilms
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:03, archived)
# Doh
I've just realised the CFT link took me to your site.
Sorry I had a senior moment.
Thanks!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:04, archived)
# You crossing a road
A car comes along and knocks you down and drives over you.
You get up dust yourself off shrug and continue crossing the road.

It would be great if it were a massive juggernaut but I doubt you would be able to find some quiet time on a motorway so you could film yourself crossing it :)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:07, archived)
# do one that tiles vertically
wher you kick the head of the bloke below you, and his head sails up to replace yours.

I would pay to see that.*



*would not actually pay to see that.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# Hmm
Not bad, it's got potential
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:03, archived)
# oooh
thats all and every kind of ace
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:43, archived)
# woo! I love you.
should i bother asking if it tiles?
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:43, archived)
# *clicky clicky bang bang*


(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:45, archived)
# clickity!!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:46, archived)
# *CLICKETH*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:46, archived)
# *Marches*
Woo as ever
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:46, archived)
# Fabulous!
You could play this at parties. When the music stops there is one less pair of jeans and the person whose top half falls on the floor is out.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# I found that Johnny Cash went very well with this
Songs are nice and short, would make the game fun to play too
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:50, archived)
# I think
if I understood the science of this process, my head would assplode.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# HEIL! HEIL! HEIL! HEIL!
*ahem*

woo!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# You've grown a beard!
Wow. I'd say add it to the competition and beat everyone on the basis that you haven't shaved.

As always you are fantastic.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:47, archived)
# Beard is for a Fancy Dress Party Coming Up
Thought it'd be a bit cheeky to post this on the image challenge.

Beard not staying either, itchy bastard thing
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:51, archived)
# That's a shame. I'd vote two hundred and thrice.
Henry the eighth perhaps? I'm trying that out. But then I am a promiscuous red head.
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# I don't bother to make gifs because of you.
You make all other efforts seem worthless.

*clicks*

*cries*
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:55, archived)
# DO A NAKED VERSION


(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:17, archived)
# Woo!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 22:59, archived)
# heheheh
What fun!
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:01, archived)
# stop being so good!
damn Sheep!

:)
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:01, archived)
# *Click*
talented git
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:04, archived)
# click click click
(, Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:31, archived)
# Amazing
What excellent tshirt collar pulling action! You must have a professional tshirt collar puller on staff?
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 7:36, archived)
# Yay!
This one works great as a magic eye pic as well!
(, Mon 25 Feb 2008, 15:31, archived)

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