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goat in a coat.....

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monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:50, archived)

hehe

woo

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koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:53, archived)

oddly enough

orking goat in a coat:

clicky for big

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

When he finished skiing

he liked to muck around on his skidoo.

sorry, sorry, sorry

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curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:53, archived)

this is woo!

so...
woo!

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

Angora in an anorak?

(Chromatically Challenged, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

At the end of the day it's nice to get your feet up

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Flash_Bastard, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:44, archived)

Hahahahell

Lovely

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Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:45, archived)

Before anyone gets upset...

it's only Max Von Sydow! :)

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Flash_Bastard, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:46, archived)

That's worse that crucifying Christ.

He's been in some top films, Christ hasn't.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

You have perfect timing,

I saw that just *before* I was about to swig a mouthful of tea. My monitor and keyboard thank you profusely.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:46, archived)

As a rule,

sip and swallow drink, THEN press f5.

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Batsgirl, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

Ha ha ha!

Suddenly crucifixion don't seem so bad...

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

hmmmm...........

sacrelicious !

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Tedmus, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

OMG! That is beautiful an offensive to millions.

*dusts off Woo*

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Your Mum, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

I remeber that

Mindpiss

That was my origional thought then I decided not to make it a Woo Yay

(Dr Spam, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

that's

brilliant... I love tourettes jokes

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Flash_Bastard, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:56, archived)

F**king

Ta!

(Dr Spam, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:57, archived)

Those things'll kill him...

(Mr Mandrake, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:51, archived)

that's very woosome...

reminds me of an old Who Dares Wins sketch

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djol, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

that is excellent!!

woo/yay/houpla!

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monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:06, archived)

Professor Fnord...

Just a small point, but, all of the games-console manufacturers are selling their machines at a loss. The idea is to get the consumer to buy-in to the company's product and then they have to buy the games for it, money is made out of developers and publishers having to go through Sony, for example, before they release a game for the PlayStation; and then there's all the money from first-party titles and licences. Rant over, back to essay and BrothomStates!

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

Ah!

The old software sells hardware routine.

(Fuzzbutt aka Mr. Natural, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:44, archived)

Silly Chicken !

how is the 2nd m3tatweening project going btw?....I didn't miss it did I?

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Tedmus, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:45, archived)

TAGS!

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:46, archived)

dunnit!!!

and double quick mind you !!

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Tedmus, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

nintendo isn't selling at a loss

and the PS2 started making a profit a long time ago. The only one selling at a loss is microsoft's crapbox.

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Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:52, archived)

er..

whilst that may be / may have been true for other consoles, it's not for the gamecube. they aren't making a loss on it.

(popey, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

and...

...it has a lovely hand controller.

Just perfect (apart from the z button)

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Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

indeedy

wavebird is the best (aside from not having rumble)

(popey, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

Are you sure?

I think I can dig out a copy of Edge that says they are.

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

"are"

or "were"

EDIT: here you go www.theinquirer.net/?article=6630 ..
"Unconfirmed sources close to Nintendo have told the INQUIRER that it costs Nintendo just $20 to make each Gamecube, while Microsoft is known to make a loss on each X-Box it sells."

(popey, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

I sincerely...

..........doubt it

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:53, archived)

well..

I can't vouch for the article, it was just the first hit when I made the minimal effort to backup my claim using google.

(popey, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

Good minimal effort!

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:56, archived)

Hang on...

We're trusting a source called The Enquirer? Like, as in the National Enquirer, repository of all truth in american journalism?

Oh, puh-leeze!

Edit: Ok, it's spelled differently - but even so; look at the bottom of that page, it says xboxes got sold at discount before christmas... I didn't see any, and I was looking for a new doorstop too!

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:59, archived)

Agreed,

even buying in bulk the Gecko alone would most likely cost more than $20.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

Nintendo NEVER

sold at loss (because they are one of the worst bastards) so why would they start now?

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

You haven`t played Animal Crossing, have you?

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:50, archived)

Because N64 games were so expensive

that they never sold as well as other platforms, so they need to work harder to keep the Gamecube in the marketplace?

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:50, archived)

I think the most I paid for an N64 game was 80 quid

for ISS 64 when it was first released. But that was still cheaper than Samba de Amigo, and Steel Battallion is going to make a serious dent in my wallet.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:52, archived)

you're going to buy that?

I tried playing it in a video store and it was ridiculous. i never understand why they make you guys pay so much more for your games.

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Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

Already got it on pre-order.

It looks like it is going to be an absolutely top game, and there is already a sequel in development which will use the same controller, so spread over the cost of two games it won`t be too bad.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:56, archived)

I guess

but i've learned that add-ons never sell or catch on. especially if they're $200 and that's US. I can't imagine what it would be to get one in the UK.

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Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:58, archived)

150 quid, but the price is falling as more people pre-order

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:59, archived)

that's like what

almost $300? I feel bad that you guys in the UK can't get the same games I have out here. You're missing out.

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Allanon, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:01, archived)

Are you Australian?

£150 is closer to $230US. Double the number for Australian, and add a couple of zeros for Canadian.

/canadianmoneyjoke

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:03, archived)

i'm an american. I thought the exchange rate was almost 1.6:1 for every dollar. Guess it's changed since I last check it.

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Allanon, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:06, archived)

It IS 1.6:1 (finally, again!)

which is to say, not 2:1 - so £150 isn't gonna be $300, is it?

COme on, I know the schools out there are crap, but really!

/spent3yearsintheUS

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:17, archived)

That's what import stores are for.

Besides, we got Kuru Kuru Kururin for the GBA and the US didn`t :)

(Dr Wadd, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:05, archived)

I know!

bastards, and you guys are getting Doshin the Giant as well. I'm thinking I'm going to have to import that game along with the freeloader if it's ever released. I don't want to chip my gamecube.

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Allanon, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:10, archived)

Except I can`t get Doshin as I have a modded Japanese Cube.

I know I could get the Japanese version, but then I won`t be able to read it :(

(Dr Wadd, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:17, archived)

I have a perfectly

argued and drafted reply to that but am too fuckes to type it...
...trust me - it goes back to when nintendo sold cards and mah-jong sets.

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

Of cuorse they're all

one of the worst bastards aren't they?

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:52, archived)

I can't bloody draw

www.imaginationatwork.com/Imagine?_nolivecache&aDrawingID=20030121_184527882_443970346&_lscid=73636210
It did look slightly less crap (only slightly) but it started erasing where i'd started from without warning me so you can't see the whole head

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

Gratefulness

Milkman Dan and Jiva for the being most helpful
Dogsdinner for being pedantic
Wonko the sane for being nice about my obesity
Kostyabwoy for the humour through my troubled time
Mike Mystery , Goat, Batsgirl, K3rry and Fingermouse for their Drug Recommendations
Ming for being sympathetic and telling me to google
Dr Wadd for his premonition and Drug recommendations
Evil Pixie for the love
New Matt for the E102 comment I’m still looking it up

For you all a puppy

For you druggies or casual users whose friend tols you all about these drugs a Rabbit with a spliff

***********************************************
God I miss drugs, I really do
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[EDIT] For you have no idea what I going on about
www.b3ta.com/board/702720

(dapthechap probably has this as a status on facebook, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

and to me for tags

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

What tags

???

(dapthechap probably has this as a status on facebook, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

Off the drugs, eh?

What's that like?

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

</small>

you're not going to off yourself are you?

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zog why change it now?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

Zog I saw (most of) Lathe Of Heaven on TV tonight

did you know it had been made into a film (tv film by the look of it)?
It was very odd to happen to flick across to it.
www.aande.com/tv/shows/latheofheaven/

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

music composed by Angelo Badalamenmti - of Lynchian acquaintance.

:)
Interesting flash site. :)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:05, archived)

What's this about E102?

tellus!

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:44, archived)

nasty colours...

shit, the name's gone... it's a kind of yellow food dye, can really mess with your head.

Tartrazine, is that right? Probably not...

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

tartrazine

used to make me climb the walls

Other classics include
E104 - Sunset Yellow
E621 - Monosodium Glutumate
E501 - Antioxidant ? or was it preservative?

I was a problem child

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

E110 is Sunset Yellow

IIRC...

My dad became violently reactive really quickly... one day he was fine, the next a gibbering wreck - the quacks thought he had the lurgi, then the nadgers, then a nervous breakdown; finally they worked it out and he's been fine ever since.

Just don't offer him a Starburst.

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:52, archived)

heh

quality

I just used to throw my toys

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:58, archived)

e102

tartrazine

(dapthechap probably has this as a status on facebook, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

Aw, Dap.

We all wish only the best for you.

(_, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

I was really concerned

about the drugs expertise here.

Then again, at twenty to midnight you've gotta expect some insomniacs...

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Batsgirl, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:47, archived)

That's such a lovely fluffy post.

Anyone who actually knows me will think I`m being sarcastic, but I`m not.

One thing I`ve just thought of, has your boyfriend considered earplugs? If it is your sleeptalking waking him up these would seem like an ideal solution.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:49, archived)

Whoah....

I'm listening to Bill Hicks and browsing the webring and I happen upon fat boab's gallery...
Those pics, that gallery music and Bill Hicks screaming "Fuck that! I want my rock stars dead! Play from your fucking heart!" made me think, for just a few seconds, that all you guys are rock stars. Thanks for that.

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:38, archived)

suck satan's

cock

black worm jism

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

WAAArrrrwRWWWWWWWWGHAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWGHHHHHHHHH!

WAAArrrrwRWWWWWWWWGHAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWGHHHHHHHHH!

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:43, archived)

woah easy tiger

how's life in #speccy?

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mattl has moved to boston, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

Har har!

Come on over... Have you been in since "the return"? Or should I say the
502 RETURN

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:42, archived)

Touche koit

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:36, archived)

sod you all then!

grumble :-)

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:59, archived)

don't worry

I still love you.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:16, archived)

Oh hummus

where art thou?

biggusdickus

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Tedmus, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

haha superb

the yolks on us! I will save that and put it in my fave pics albumen.

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curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:36, archived)

ARGGHHH!!!!!

Stop it stop it stop it stop it!!!
carry on really :))
EDIT: Don't make me post it.. the worst pun
ever in animated gif form.. I will you know.

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Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

I double dare you

unless it is the heavy dog one :)

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curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:45, archived)

go on!!!!!

i need to see it :)

(mountainloz i want a bulldog/Shih Tzu cross breed, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

Ha hah a!

Funniest string of words I've heard in a while...

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

Nice

pic Ted ;)

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Tedmus, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:54, archived)

you tart! :)

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curry monster, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:07, archived)

aint I just !!!

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Tedmus, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:11, archived)

You

love it

(_, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

Tell me about your childhood....

second thoughts... don't you loon!! :)

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Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:35, archived)

is this like the

draw a message in blood,
thing?

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:36, archived)

gaaaaah, I'm pissed off

now, I can't see that one either! You demon Bastards! Explain yerselves!

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

It's just

Flash, m'dear

(_, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:38, archived)

nooo, I'm ADSL'd

thru Demon and they're having their usual monthly 'packet loss' problem, mostly meaning I can see text but not pics.....s'getting right on my shrinking m00bs, so it is!

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

A flash anim

that draws naughty words :o

(Mr Flibble, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

Here's a

blank one.

GET CREATIVE before I maim again

(_, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

Not the best pic I've ever twatshooped

but you know what its like, I made the little fucker, I'm going to post him, yes?

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cr4, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

Well

I like it!

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Ratsta, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

probably been done. blah.

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mattl has moved to boston, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

opportunistic repost

not to mention barely relevant

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cr4, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

barely relevant reposts you say?

well this is kind of barely relevant I guess!

edit - not sure why, but our munter friend looks even more self satisfied than normal in that pic!

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barnesy, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

you fucker

I've got that hard thing in my troosers again

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cr4, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:38, archived)

have you tried

asking it to leave?

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barnesy, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

Its stuck fast

and is thrashing around trying to free itself

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cr4, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:44, archived)

Hehehe.

Like it!

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helmetcream, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:45, archived)

I don't know about

Some of these artistic photographers...

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

she reminds me of Alicia Witt

(growl)

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:29, archived)

I take it

thats a bad thing that she reminds you of her? or are you growling at the person?

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

maybe it should have been more of a howl what with this full moon and everything

Think Austin Powers type growl

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

rowr!

/pant

I think I need to have a little lie down now.

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Ratsta, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

i understand completely

I love redheads.
/seconds your growl

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

well hellooooo

grrrrrrrowwwwlllll !! :)

(mountainloz i want a bulldog/Shih Tzu cross breed, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:40, archived)

Wow

Even I think she's sexy.

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Batsgirl, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:45, archived)

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

woo!

Interestingly enough, that is one of only two photographs of big daddy available on t'internet

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monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

shirley

not!
that's terrible.

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

Badum

Tish...

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

hahaha

bonk

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cr4, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:35, archived)

ooo bring on 2002's earliest

bandwagon, why don'tya :) yes, I meant 2002

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

'scalled

retro

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

I know, I'd like

to make a living out of it :)

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

CHiPs

is definately less naughty

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

spaz!

steady as a rock

btw daddy, or chips

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new_matt, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

Gotta be chips

although if I could drop my daddy into a large pan of boiling oil I would. And I'd take photos.

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Batsgirl, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:34, archived)

Now now, darling...

Let's not be hasty here!

In this age of modern technology, surely a live webcast would be more in order?

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:43, archived)

woo!

I like the way you are thinking!

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curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

Woo to the original

and woo to that

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Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

seconded

:)

[edit] I mean to that, not wooing myself.

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crouchingbadger, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

Right...

I'm to do my uni essay on "Why the Dreamcast Failed" while listening to some lovely electronica!

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:21, archived)

Isn't that a really short essay?

"Because Sega are marketing fuckwits who couldn't sell beer to 19 year-old Englishmen on holiday."

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:23, archived)

Well,

It's got to be about 2000-2500 words, so, no.

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:24, archived)

Hrrrm.

Copy & Paste?

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

If Only

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:26, archived)

sega made the units too expensive to produce

so when the price had to drop as they all do eventually they were making a loss on every unit they made.

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Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

And when you release your hardware,

and your primary competitor instantly announces a new machine that will be 10 times better, you're pretty much fucked from then on.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:34, archived)

But that's true of many consoles

I thought I'd heard that even to this day the PSX/PS1 hasn't made any money itself, just through software sales...?

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

Every console is sold at a lost,

all the money is made through software. Look hour much cash Microsoft are shedding at the moment, they don`t predict a profit on the XBox for several years.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

Last I heard,

they weren't predicting a profit from the console at all. Something I read said that they were only using it as a means to gain a foothold in the market and would start profiting from it on the next one.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:41, archived)

About

the same number of sales they got for it, isn't that?

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Herr Tezcat, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

new_matt's theory of games machine failure™

big control pad = doomed to failure
small pad = runaway success

snes, dreamcast = good machin, too big pad, doomed
playstation = small pad therefore a winner

xbox. launched with hyuuuuge pad. was filing. introduced small "japanese" pad, picking up.

qed

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new_matt, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:24, archived)

Um....

SNES wasn't a failure. Did you mean N64?

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

plus the SNES had small controller

gotta love the snes. there were some FANTASTIC games on there. i'm still impressed by them.

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:29, archived)

Hence the huge success

of the Game Boy Advance, which so far has a catalogue of games almost entirely made up of SNES ports.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

I'm still waiting for some of the greats, though.

Chrono trigger, FF6, megamanX, and some of those never released in usa games, like star ocean and FF5

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Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:48, archived)

I have FF5+6 for the PS1.

And 4 for that matter.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:53, archived)

yes,

yes i do.

excuse me, for i am drunk

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new_matt, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

It was only a failure if you were stuck with a PAL machine.

First opportunity I got I trade mine for a modded NTSC model, there were so many games that were not released outside the US or Japan.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

But that doesn't explain

why the dreamcast is still popular, while I know less people with XBoxes than I knew with Saturns - and I knew no-one with a Saturn.

Saturns are the reason the Dreamcast failed IMO.

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:26, archived)

Rememer also that Sony were promising miracles with the PS2...

...just when the dreamcast should have been cleaning up.

Always been more of a nintendo man myself, you can't beat a good Zelda game.

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Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

Dreamcast suffered bad timing

if they'd held it back so it could use DVDs, it would have really had a chance...

Whenever I saw a Saturn running anything, it looked only marginally better than a SNES, which considering it was (at the time) "next gen" really put me off... So naturally when the DC came along I (along with many others, by the looks of history) was put off by bad memories. Lack of a DVD version was just an extra nail in it's coffin, when the PS2 made (and kept) a lot of promises... not all of them, but enough to keep the punters interested.

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JustHere4Coffee remembers when all o' this were car parks, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:34, archived)

I love my Saturn....

got it for a couple of quid at a boot sale, it was *wow*r@re*boxed* and came with both Daytona and Need For Speed...sorted. 'Course, I own a computer museum so I needed one anyway, but those games are great, and cheap!

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witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

The Saturn was bad hardware, but had some excellent games.

It just got mulched by the might of Sony's effective marketing.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

It was not so much bad hardware per se,

but the design meant that it was incredibly difficult to program for. Sega's attempt to give it decent 3D power by throwing in a second SH2 meant that the hardware was incredibly difficult to program effectively, but when people got it right there were some top games. Ideally it should never have been marketed as a 3D console as it throws 2D stuff around with ease, witness the Capcom fighters or Radiant Silvergun.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:35, archived)

I found the dreamcast pad to be the right size.

I could use it easily without getting thumb cramps.

(goat thinks you're shit, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

the factthe buttons had the x and y etc cut out of them was a very bad move

as it caused blisters in those shapes.

(

Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

Cos Sony Playstation have

the name and the reputation, and the Xbox is backed by the mighty Microsoft 'gainst whom none shall stand...

(

Batsgirl, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

...and we've already

done the b3tamax versus VHS argument this week :o)

(

witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

It may have failed commercially,

but as a bit of tech it was a wonderful bit of kit. Sega didn`t so much screw up with the Dreamcast, but people had long memories about their failures with the Saturn.

Ikaruga, drool.....

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

I asked everyone here about my essay

'The photograph never lies'
they really helped out and I got a high mark today! Cheers guys!

(

Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

The suit was easy, it was the helmet that was gonna be tricky !

(

koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:21, archived)

yay for people with elephant heads...

(

Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

splendeeed!

woo/yay!

(

monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

That's

very good

(

K3rry, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:23, archived)

I do like that.

I say

(thediscokingpin, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:24, archived)

Is that Evil Kneivelephant?

(

curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:24, archived)

That was one option

I was gonna use for the caption.....but I didn't know how to spell the kinievel bit or however you spell it.

(

koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

Kinel'ephant mate

(

curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

Its not very funny,

and its poorly animated, it can only be my first finished...

FLASH ANIMATION.

Ta Daaaaaa.

This took me far too long.

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:16, archived)

That is magic

fantastic ending !

(

koit WWW.HIGHASAKOIT.CO.UK, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:18, archived)

very nice

you can draw well and you have drawn well on that ability :)

(

Professor Fnord Regius Professor of B3ta Chronology, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

Cheers,

I was going for Crap Chic,

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:20, archived)

lol, that is wonderful

hehe, I love it!!

(

Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:21, archived)

hehehe

i like it.. musta taken fookin ages :)

(

Obz Click, ting, stamps, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

mmmm

chocolate river!

lovely anim!

(

curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

Truly...

lovely!

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

woo!

thats ace:)

(

monkeymanblue mathematically safe, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

thats

fantabulous!

(

jiva nearly always up for a game of scrabble, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

ooh

what's he from originally?

(nevermind, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

from

munkt0n, apart from that I don't know

(

jiva nearly always up for a game of scrabble, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

hampster (sic) dance

perchance?

(There is no Mr Spoon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

That is the best thing I've seen...

...in a long, long time. I love the expressive hand movements.

Woo to you sir!

(

Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:20, archived)

Note the clever,

only animate one hand technique.

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

It was worth it!

Woo yay! i give you my favourite

(

Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:20, archived)

Brill

iumpty.... Love the ending!

(

Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:21, archived)

that's fantastic!

I love Flash Gordon stuff. And it's good to see those animation techniques you were playing with put to use too!

(

barnesy, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

I'm going to do another Flash

Gordon one next, with a lot more Flash Gordon characters.

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:24, archived)

yay!

looking forward to it! I've just been looking at an mpeg I've got from the film - there's a decidedly oompa-loompa like character in there!

Here he is!

Ooh I've just pre-regged for the BJC by the way. I girled out and booked a room too!

(

barnesy, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

silly chicken

i love it.

(

new_matt, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

You must be getting

beasted 'cos I can't see it....remind me tomorrow old chap.

(

witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

Really,

bloody hell.
My cousin will be having stern words with me then, he looks after my server.

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

Of course, it could be

the usual 'packet loss' excuse that Demon have rolled out endlessly since november to try and explain their shite service....you pay for broadband and you get 'always on' 56K modem speeds! yay! cnuts

(

witchy is covered in BEES, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:33, archived)

woo yay to that

brilliant work sir

Almost forgot my FG woo yay

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

Wunderbar.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

heheheheeeeeeeeeee!

chocolate! woooo! that was worth however long you took making it!

(

spacefish bong!, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

Cheers,

its time for my beddy byes now.
See you all tommorow, look forward to a repost!

He he he he heeeeee, chocolate!

(

bovine I'm so old, even my old is old, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

you

talented bastard! that is great :)

(

rogan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:27, archived)

Cor..

and so is that. I've forgotten what people say
when it's a good woo yay, so..um..woo yay! :)

(

Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:28, archived)

hi cockalorum!!

(

curry monster, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:38, archived)

I dreamt that exact scene....

...except she had a spork.

(

Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:37, archived)

Coo!

(

Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:39, archived)

Mais, c'est

un fourchette de cuill?re !

(

mikemystery blames the parents, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:55, archived)

Yeah,

Superb film, Superb woo,
Superb flash thing.
woo for it all!

(acme, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:43, archived)

Woo and a yay!

Excellent :)

(Mr Flibble, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:30, archived)

that is astonishingly good!

in so many ways! hoooray for you!

(

freshlegs, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:32, archived)

i feel like i'm jumping on a bandwagon

but i really do have to say - that is splendid.

(

discostu oh my, its back, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:58, archived)

where is pie?

(frambooz, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:15, archived)

brilliant

love that

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:16, archived)

that should be an online game

(

Or is it?, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:21, archived)

I thought that

exact thing.

(

Collatallie Sisters, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:23, archived)

That

is fantastical. I couldn't keep my eye on the pie but I think I know where the wee bull is.

(

Artamnesia, Wed 22 Jan 2003, 0:37, archived)

hope this isn't GC...

Win a radio command dalek

(

Mystery_Bob, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:15, archived)

damn!!

I am not eligible because I am not a UK resident!

(

Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:20, archived)

sorry if this is old

(

Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:14, archived)

god only knows

But the real thing is apparently green.

(Al__S is constantly suprised, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:15, archived)

Certainly is.

I`ve seen a photo of one on display in a shop that had died, but I`ll be damned if I can remember where.

(Dr Wadd, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:20, archived)

hmm, ok

I'll make it green then.

(

Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

But...

It's not a PC in a box! And, I would hope you are big enough to admit it.

(Olly Aphonix, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:16, archived)

wot?

it is a pc in a box, well a dumbed down pc in a box.

(

Allanon, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:19, archived)

rather gc.. some guy made a nice xbox hand controller with the ALT CTRL DELETE buttons on :)

(

Obz Click, ting, stamps, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:16, archived)

Whilst googling found this

Clicky for Map of minorities in america
I was wondering even if a group is a minority over an entire country
is it really right to call them a minority if they take up 97.6% of the population of an area
as clearly atleast one of the areas does

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:11, archived)

heh

'persons of colour'!

(

barnesy, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:12, archived)

you've really got to watch out

for those purple bastards

(

new_matt, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:14, archived)

Can

you see non-coloured people? i'm sure i have some kind of hue, maybe not in America?

(DrLego, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:15, archived)

some are clearly transparent

and clearly these see through people are the majority

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:16, archived)

Yes, in proportion to the population of the country they are still a minority

A black man in a chair would compromise 100% population of the chair, but still be a minority in this country.
Nice map though, very revealing

(

Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:13, archived)

i was just wondering

my grasp of politics aint too good more maths based
just thought it was odd

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:15, archived)

Sorry if I took that a bit too seriously

But I study Politics.
Bit of a misleading map as the two main ethnic minorities in America, ie the blacks and the hispanics are unrelated culturally and geographically, so lumping them together proves nothing useful

(

Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:17, archived)

no i was actually looking for a serious answer

i was just a wondering
and thought id share
it proves you can make a nice band across the bottom of america
pretty much their only border
reminds me of south park the film with chefs regiment

(Alpen, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:22, archived)

The number of 'minorities' in the south

is more to do with black people, as that is where they worked as slaves in the last century on the cotton plantations etc. they haven't totally dispersed throughout america yet. The Hispanics are generally a more recent phenomenon, and are more widespread, but principally in California, where demand for cheap labour is high, and Mexicans illegaly enter the country to work there.

(

Milkman Dan, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:25, archived)

Gasp

Has someone masked Canada?

Anyway, it's full of blue people.

(Fuzzbutt aka Mr. Natural, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:31, archived)

Right!

It's the blue peoples fault.

(Fuzzbutt aka Mr. Natural, Tue 21 Jan 2003, 23:18, archived)

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