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Someone has redesigned the Union Jack

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2981038.stm

Sorry not to hyperlink - work firewall doesn't permit it

This would make a stunning challenge for next week

(wilesy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:53, archived)

has to be

a joke shirley

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@man move along, nothing to see here on, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:54, archived)

I'm just...

speechless at the stupidity...how patronising can you get.

(Gothic.Ink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:55, archived)

It is rather simplistic isn't it.

You can guarantee that a load of stuck-up old twats are going to get themselves worked up about it.

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Craymen, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:59, archived)

my god it is terrible.

back in my day we only had the flag in black and white, blah blah blah.

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Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:30, archived)

that's because it was

a Jolly Roger!!

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Predatory Sock has 99 dead baboons, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 18:22, archived)

How about this one?

(pirahna, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 20:25, archived)

there ain't no black in the union jack

er...

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:54, archived)

bollocks to that

they'll be making it pink and aquamarine next, to encourage toddlers.

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_null_, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:56, archived)

need a bit of grey in there too

to support the ageing population of the country...

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wingpig wish I'd known about liquify 23 years ago, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:59, archived)

hmm. question is, why redesign it?

is putting a dab of black on the flag really going to make that much of a change?

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_null_, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:55, archived)

thing is.

could always do that for b3ta.

make a b3ta flag? (yes it is a pun)

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tef, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:56, archived)

yeah coz the colours reflect the nationalities in the UK

Red = Red Indians
White = Whiteys
Blue = Eskimos

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:57, archived)

we need brown for monkeys

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_null_, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:59, archived)

thats a bit harsh mate

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lo, the OTHER greebo warrior, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:26, archived)

hmmmm

didn't know that monkeys were into heroin.

n

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niles, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:24, archived)

snigger

you made funny

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:40, archived)

We need some yellow in it

for all the Chinkies

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.spanky is singing "PEANUTS!", Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:59, archived)

where's the beige?

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thorpe www.voodootrombonequartet.com, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:59, archived)

dunno

I guess we'd need a rainbow to reflect everyones colour. I guess we could skip the infrared and ultraviolet though.

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:01, archived)

leaving out the invisible man

and his family? They have rights to you know.

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:04, archived)

If the invisible man shagged a normal lady

would they have opaque kiddies?

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:07, archived)

invisibility is the dominant gene. They'd be as transparent as their father.

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:09, archived)

surely

they would be translucent?

(Flower has a new job!, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:31, archived)

you mean translucent.

We are all opaque :)

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Lumpbucket tekcubpmuL, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:47, archived)

Rights

to you know what?

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Ijon Tichy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:09, archived)

yay

score one for the grammar police

(norumbegan, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 23:54, archived)

for some reason I like the idea

of all the BNP nutters flying a rainbow flag

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LP, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:19, archived)

isn't that

um, the gay pride flag?

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Mingus wonders where all the time went, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 12:21, archived)

that may

be the reason yes... :-)

Apparently a mate of mine once mistook a BNP march for a gay pride event, apparently he was confused by the large quantity of skinheads wearing leather.

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LP, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 15:46, archived)

re: the flag

it was you paul wasn't it!

(Retford Tourist Board, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 13:44, archived)

Behind

you.

(1, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:01, archived)

that's what I was thinking.

So a touch of black is to be added.

Surely we also need a few shades of brown, and some yellow in there? How about some freckly pink as well?

Political Correctnes gond mad.

mad I tell you!

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jonas is not my name, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:01, archived)

I thought the red represented gingers.

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Craymen, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:03, archived)

and the blue represents southerners

that have moved north?

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jonas is not my name, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:03, archived)

hooray!

We'll inherit the earth. As soon as we stop hissing at each other.

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:06, archived)

joker

lol. funniest thing i heard in a long time. What T$%t thought up of that flag? i read the news articles, what a D$%Kpiece

(lucas_maximus, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 13:32, archived)

don't forget the irish

red would have to be for the Irish, b/c we all know the red indians live in france or somewhere foreign like that...

(pirahna, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 19:29, archived)

it's only right

why should it only represent the white people in this country.....and the blue and red ones?

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:58, archived)

darn tootin

there's far too much empahsis put on those blue folks in this country

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new_matt, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:59, archived)

Dead right.

We should kick the bastards out. They come over here, they steal our....er....who are they again?

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routine has perfected burgers, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:11, archived)

union flag

it's only the union jack when it's flown on a boat

/possibly misguided pedantry

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new_matt, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:56, archived)

pedany?

you can get lynched by Mail readers for that

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Spoon, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:00, archived)

i've no idea what you're talking about

*innocent whistling*

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new_matt, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:04, archived)

I'm in agreement with you

it's pendantry but it's correct

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Pootle, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:01, archived)

nnno...

that's just going too far...

competition would be good: 'Redesign the Union Jack' or something...

(1, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:57, archived)

I did that once (repost)

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 12:58, archived)

Ha ha ha - we've got your flag...

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Ijon Tichy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:06, archived)

la la la

everybody knows
we've got your flag

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Dr Phil Kitten, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:10, archived)

am now humming

'Ich bin ein auslander' by PWEI.

I miss them.

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Razor What the fuck - a sig?, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:09, archived)

They were great

weren't they?

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partychancer, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:14, archived)

oh yes..

marhvelous.. but old Clint's been doing some damn good music lately..

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Darkedge, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:41, archived)

the black jack...

...does have the air of nazi-ness about it

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DangerousClive, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:04, archived)

I'm glad

that I'm not the only person who thought that immediately on seeing it.

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Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 16:39, archived)

joker

lol

(lucas_maximus, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 13:33, archived)

that's just plain

stupid.
If you are to redesign the Union Flag, you may as well start with a blank sheet, rather than just changing one of the colours.

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Pootle, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:00, archived)

why not just use the welsh one

it's way cooler than the union flag.

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:01, archived)

why?

Because it has a big ~~gay~~camp dragon on it?

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jonas is not my name, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:03, archived)

his paw is as limp as Larry Grayson's

Doesn't mean he's gay tho. Just a bit camp.

tomcatbook.sourceforge.net/images/flags/welsh-flag.gif

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:05, archived)

good

it can represent all the gay dragons in the country.

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:06, archived)

because it has a fictional

animal on it, it's just plain silly.

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Pootle, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:03, archived)

you won't be saying that

when it eats your children!

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:04, archived)

your flag is better

but I bet it was a bugger when you had to draw it at school.

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:06, archived)

we spent most of our time

being taught how to set union jacks alight..

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mnb098mnb used to be here, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:06, archived)

Whenever I tried

it always ended up looking like a winged welsh whippet.

(Nigel Meek's Incredibly High Waistband, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:13, archived)

Having a dragon

on your flag is cool.

Can we have flaming skull with snakes coming out of the eyes? Or a dagger? that would rock

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Craymen, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:04, archived)

and can we all get a state funded Harley Davidson to match?

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:05, archived)

We should get Jim Davidson to redesign the flag

that would rock.

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rob, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:08, archived)

then instead of us being considered a joke among the European community

we would be considered a racist joke with a fucking shit punch line

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Dr Drink, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:11, archived)

liddlebiddapoliticks

ladeesandgennelmen

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new_matt, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:23, archived)

why?

oh why?

(i am me and various other people, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 15:16, archived)

Yay!

The campaign starts here!!

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Staticgirl, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:15, archived)

And stops here

apparently

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roystead, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 18:10, archived)

Robots

We could have a robot on the new flag.... that would rule

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Thickey, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:24, archived)

howabout a kitten?
or a polar bear?
or a penguin?

(3mo Kid, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 19:03, archived)

furtive for president.....

...or whatever the title will be if we end up as part of usa mk2 (europe division)...

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the bonzo dog , down on Jollity Farm on, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 19:16, archived)

And the Daily Mail explodes.

They're going have a fucking field day at this.

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bowdie, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:31, archived)

next weeks competition?

design the new british flag.

(joshwa ultra lurker, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:50, archived)

oh look

it's in the web log.

(1, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:52, archived)

what a pile of toss.

If he wants the union jack to stop being a racist symbol he should fly it proudly, and encourage other non-racists to do the same. It's not the fact that the BNP fly the flag that makes it a symbol of racism, but the fact that nobody else is willing to.

To change the design is to admit defeat and shame and hand victory to the BNP along with an officially sanctioned racist badge. Yeah - really progressive.

(Lambkin, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 13:58, archived)

What a load of bollocks

Have you seen the Reflag site? www.reflag.co.uk/start.htm

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Dobbin The Great, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:18, archived)

that, my friend

is a total bunch of arse!

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lo, the OTHER greebo warrior, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:35, archived)

I have sent them my comments

in true disgusted of tunbridge wells fashion.

(Lambkin, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:41, archived)

Well what about...

...those poor New Zealanders and Australians who'll have to change the flag in the upper right of their flag! Hahahaha!

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doctordoctor I feel like a pair of curtains, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:25, archived)

oohh

good point. perhaps we could have the new flag with the old flag in the top left corner, or just make it recursive.

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aubergene, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:37, archived)

Recursive, eh?

there would be a recursive flag but I can't be bothered.

(1, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:43, archived)

"Union Jack"

What a top excuse to split the union and give the individual countries their identification back. Then the Welsh can be included!

(Greenbhoy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:32, archived)

I don't know

It looks quite nice to me, plus it might rid it of some of those nationalistic connotations...

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corington, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:37, archived)

Let's put a furtive on the flag!

Over the years, we have turned into a nation of b3tans. To celebrate this wonderful nation of photoshops and kittens we propose to change the flag.

Visit www.r3flag.co.uk for more.

(1, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:39, archived)

Damn!

Against my better judgement I clicked, closed my eyes and hoped...

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Ijon Tichy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:46, archived)

<AOL>me too</AOL>

(Ooo - having a pop at AOLers. how progressive and inclusive of me...)

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roystead, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 18:14, archived)

the new flag should represent a bit of the country's history

hey, I know it's pretty ironic coming from an american, but hey... we're just a colony anyway, right?

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zog why change it now?, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 14:55, archived)

Hur hur

Am I the only one that thinks this is a semi good idea? Anyting that pisses the Daily Mail off will please me no end..

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Pete Donaldson, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:08, archived)

I'm with you.

But I reckon instead of black on all sides, it should have drop shadow.

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atomboy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:19, archived)

bevelled

and embossed

with some lens flare...

(Divvy, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 15:34, archived)

hear hear!

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corington, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 16:30, archived)

Dont forget to

add an inner glow mmmmmmmmm tasty like chicken

(Rychan, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 22:51, archived)

i'm living in that bloody

colony too

(sndmn, Sat 14 Jun 2003, 22:38, archived)

Looks like

a crap printing firm has got the registration out of line.

(13 Floors Up, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 16:50, archived)

With a touch of black...

You will need a new jersey for your national football team.

I propose good old Sampdoria:

(Shaolin_Bukkake, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 16:54, archived)

Geez! The war is barely over!

See what happens to the UK when us americans aren't there to make your life exciting?

Buy some of our patented WAR and you could stop this petty arguing and show your true racial tolerance by "rescuing" another country from itself!

Hey, I have an idea! Maybe the US can rescue you from your oppressive regime!

We'll even give you a BRAND NEW flag to go with your new puppet government.

Uhh, I am only kidding though... I think we are too broke to help you out right now.

(anathema Meh., Wed 11 Jun 2003, 20:38, archived)

How about some green

well it seems to be lacking a fair bit of green, or even a leaf to reflect us students.
the so called 'future' of this nation

(evil pete, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 21:16, archived)

could you please

supply us with some WAR ®, those french are still pumping in the asylum seekers

(alexcfarrell, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 21:30, archived)

Cultural diversity?

If this new flag shows cultural diversity then where will the Welsh flag fit into it? Affter all the "union" Jack is a mix of all the flags of the UK. Sort of

(WiggZ, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 21:19, archived)

cultural diversity

maybe it was a hint for the welsh to piss off.

(evil pete, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 22:12, archived)

what the flag needs is....

A ferret and a big poo

(Chutney_Pie, Wed 11 Jun 2003, 23:59, archived)

Funny...

I thought the Union Flag was a mix of the St Georges Cross (England), the St Andrews Cross (Scotland) and The St Davids Cross (Yes, thats WELSH)...

If anyones going to moan, how about Norther Ireland or the Isle of Man, or Yorkshire?

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Dobbin The Great, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 11:24, archived)

If all the Welsh b3tans are complaining that they're not included

you should suspect that you're wrong really.

The Union Jack was redrawn 200 years ago to include the following:

St. George's cross - a red cross on white to show England
St. Andrew's cross - a white cross on blue background to show Scotland
/EDIT: St. Patrick's cross - a diagonal red on white background to show the then subjugated Ireland, so now by inference the six counties.

St David is not included, as his flag is a YELLOW cross on blue - not black as I'd previously typed.
Yup, I fecked it up first go! :)

That mrflag.com is no help though. >

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WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 12:28, archived)

Maybe....

maybe, the addition of the black to the union flag, is not just to represent the multi-cultures in the UK, but also to keep the welsh happy as the black is on The St Davids Cross.

(evil pete, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 14:09, archived)

according to mrflag

St David's cross is a yellow cross on blue background tho - so unless yellow gets put in they're still getting shafted.

And for the record, I think the welsh dragon is very cool - and a nice counterpoint to St George! :)

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WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 15:15, archived)

i beg you pudding?

A yellow cross (diagonal) on navy blue background is the cross of St Alban. And I should know.

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100% kitten better than ever, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 19:42, archived)

Funny...

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Dobbin The Great, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 11:24, archived)

Maybe the 3/4 of Ulster in Da North

might want to get the white cross left out as well - let's face it running NI costs the UK how many hundreds of millions a year, the Irish government knows that if they had to reabsorb it, costs would spiral and taxes would change, noone too happy...
So basically no bugger wants it as long as the Unionists are runnign around with murders and punishment beatings cos the media lets them away with everything, and inciting violence with marches, and meanwhile the shinners refuse to 100% acknowledge that politics should be the seperate alternative to violence and they're still sending the ra-heads over to places like columbia to help export the violence - for a fee mind...

Get them off your flag and let them sort themselves out I say.
As long as innocent people are being killed for outdated beliefs and inground heirloom ideals, I say stop giving them attantion and let them figure it out autonomously. It'd be liek if Trolls on the board were ignored, excpet with a slightly higher chance of them gettign a regime change from the states... :)

This comment should not be taken too seriously - yes I know there's more to it. I think everyone 'cept the unionist thugs and IRA apologists are just tired of the violence! >

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WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 11:29, archived)

TAGS!!!!!

Sorry I'm just figuring out how these work - It's fun!

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WhoElse I'm what Willis was talking about, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 12:41, archived)

Helloo

Just thought I'd suggest a b3ta flag.

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Ijon Tichy, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 9:22, archived)

I guess

I should mention this here, then.

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stup0t, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 15:02, archived)

I think

it should at least say "Fucksocks" on it somewhere..

(Peripheral Visionary, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 15:05, archived)

cheeky repost

as the subject is still topical! here's my redesign being premiered by james bond himself!

(son of crazymum, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 20:51, archived)

That is very

woo yay indeed.

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Evil Prof. Pixel Masher I made this!, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 22:15, archived)

What a load of horsecrap

My favourite comment at the bottom was that about the people of britain with red or blue skin are over respresented. :-D

(Mr Slippyfist, Thu 12 Jun 2003, 22:02, archived)

Pardon me, but...

I noticed the article about the Union Jack being redesigned. Although I'm only American, I saw a similar controversy a couple years back when there was all the fuss about Georgia and the Confederate flag, which also dealt with multiracial issues. Ultimately we learned that small gestures towards some kind of reparations don't solve real problems, however noble, and it's so much less trouble if the whole issue is avoided.
Bearing that in mind, and if you don't mind an outsider's perspective, I think I can offer a solution. Here is a potential new flag design for a country that means to celebrate its heritage in all its diversity and still embrace cultural change; a token of good wishes to one's fellow man that does not pander to jingoism, liberal or conservative.

Now, it's easy to say that this is in fact the Brazilian flag, and admittedly there's Portuguese on it, which I understand is not the English national tongue (English) by a long shot. But I feel that the subtle, symbolic, and humanistic adjustments I have made sufficiently speak of English pride, felt by all its peoples both in its long and proud past and in the here and now. That, and Brazil is a neat place with good music and funny parrots and the Carnival, plus it was a good movie with a catchy theme song. It's just such a nice flag, and it seems to work for them, so what harm would one more do? Just my two cents. Thank you.
BTW If you let us adopt you as a commonwealth, you can have Texas and its flag. We'll hand over Bush and you can do as you please with him.

(The Convenient Monk, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 3:31, archived)

Union Jack change

Me and a mate of mine both thought the new flag reminds us of the swastika or something in the war times

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Blobcat Less Jaffacakes this year, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 9:55, archived)

barcode on acid

Do you remember a while ago this story:

www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_583273.html?menu=news.latestheadlines

About a new design for the European flag (instead of yellow ring of stars):

Flag nicked from Ananova

I think the person who wants to add black to the flag is a printer specialising in paper flags, looking to make more money by printing in 4 colour instead of 3.

(cheesepump, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 14:42, archived)

why doesn't

the government just recquisition those paint scanner bastards from homebase, scan everyone's colour in and change the flag reflecting everyone's colour...they could update it every month and we'd never have to sit through another one of those fucking boring homebase "we've got colour scanner" adverts...

(pirahna, Fri 13 Jun 2003, 20:10, archived)

i like *this* flag.

yum :)

(corruptia, Wed 18 Jun 2003, 12:00, archived)