Phwoar!:D
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Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:35,
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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:35,
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![[challenge entry]](/images/board_posticon_c.gif "Challenge Entry: Zebras!"){kind=small}
I'll just leave this here......hopefully it won't get deleted by SCIENCE.
CFB (430k)
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:16,
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CFB (430k)
Hahahaha!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:36,
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I'm rather late to the bandwagon so something tells me this will be a bindun...
greg_evigan is possibly deceased on,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:25,
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Not sure about this one...But we've definitely had the Running Away from the French castle
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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:26,
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Dang!I really need to jump on bandwagons earlier.
( greg_evigan is possibly deceased on,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:30,
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This has got most of them in it(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:45,
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Just followed thisand saw the one you mentioned with the castle.
Ah well, at least I used a different scene!
(Ah well, at least I used a different scene!
greg_evigan is possibly deceased on,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:01,
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Very good....:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:43,
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I sense great fear in you, Monikin Skywalker.
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atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 15:06,
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Mohahahahaha
(
charlie brown doesn't have a dog but still enjoys shitbagging,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 15:48,
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maybe he should have invested in something with more longevity than cow pies:)
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discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:57,
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Hahaha! He's great. His chin reminds me of something....
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:58,
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yup intensional..the first outline was a big bollock :)
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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:01,
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\o/:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:02,
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The Dandy was shit.Beano FTW.
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:04,
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always Beano over Dandy...but I used to buy both :) prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:06,
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Splitter! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:29,
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^this..I had a cartoon published in that when I was 8 :) prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:14,
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Have you still got a copy? Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:18,
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no utterly gutted...been keeping an eye out ever sinceall i can remember about the cartoon was it had something to do with worms..haha
prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:20,
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I had a cartoon published too :DThey then nicked my idea and ran it as a proper doule page strip at halloween without crediting me :(
( Victor Meldrew,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:48,
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aawk that's crap :( all I got was a blue tshirt and a balloon with a daft whizzer on it :D
( prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:06,
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I got a big poster which had so much fantastic art details on it
(
Victor Meldrew,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:21,
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Ah, but were you a Whizzer or a Chip-ite?
Also, which comic had World-Wide Weirdies on the back? Was it Cheeky?
(Also, which comic had World-Wide Weirdies on the back? Was it Cheeky?
Smallbrainfield,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:50,
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am a pure Whizzer...umm yea, that was Whoopee!..great drawings :)(
prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:09,
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Wow, those are even better than I remember. Some of them are edging into LSD country.Based on the drawing style Ken Reid must have done Faceache then, I used to love that as well.
( Smallbrainfield,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:19,
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Whizz-kid too. I assumed the back half was for northeners, to save printing a separate comic... >;)Those are fantastic. I must get the LEGO out and have a go at a few of those...
( joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:34,
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Whizz-Kid!I liked snakes, so liked Sid's Snake...!
I also used to love Tom Paterson's manic style (e.g. Sweeny Toddler).
(I also used to love Tom Paterson's manic style (e.g. Sweeny Toddler).
Happosai _,,,,_(O ; o)_,,,,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:49,
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Ace!Of course I have no idea as to the film reference - that film never having existed and all, but WOO nonetheless.
( barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:03,
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^What he saidBash Street Kids, Calamity James, Billy Whizz... I could go on but I can't remember the others.
(
Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:17,
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Lord Snooty, Ball Boy, Dennis The Menace and a little girl with bunches I can't remember the name of h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega..,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 15:29,
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Whoopee! for me.'Sweeney Toddler' and lots of supernatural characters.
Splendid stuff.
(Splendid stuff.
Captain Howdy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:28,
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needs more self congratulatory masturbation:D
( discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:57,
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Needs more fight.
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:05,
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very goodI just read that from last night. Don't feed it Boris, it and Moggy live of the stir that follows. Come to think of it, I've never seen them in the same place together???
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Q4nobody,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:29,
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Christalfuckingmighty. Do you think troll, or someone who actually believes what they're saying?
It's a shame, I've always had a soft spot for Billie Piper.
(It's a shame, I've always had a soft spot for Billie Piper.
FridgeBadger,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:47,
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Haha!Not heard that before.
:D
(:D
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:00,
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me neitherthere was certainly a thread deletion before all of that.
note to self: writing absurdly overlong posts mocking conservapedia is not a very good idea. attempting to politely engage conversation with someone i know to be a troll is an even worse one.
(note to self: writing absurdly overlong posts mocking conservapedia is not a very good idea. attempting to politely engage conversation with someone i know to be a troll is an even worse one.
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:02,
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Was he responsible for the titty pic? Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:04,
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I done put him on ignorebut is this wise? Don't want to miss fun but it was relentless last night.
help
(help
unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:30,
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I suspect most of the board now has him on ignore
(
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:38,
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i've yet to put anyone on ignoredespite being tempted by a few
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:43,
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I put Mortal Wombat on ignore, but he got b& 10mins later anyway. Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:46,
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It's something to do with my own lack of willpowerI want to ignore Moggy/Dave/insect whatever too. Oh, fucksticks.
( unclepills Sixty 25th of Decembers,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 17:56,
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it's a recent entrycoined by Drunken Miss Photoshop Bitch
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:47,
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if i rember moggy called us all waste trolls... to which DMP-Bizzler mused that 'she' must have meant wombles.
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arrangedletters,
Thu 16 Aug 2012, 3:15,
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i've always had a hard spot for billie piperstill would, even after the ginger cock
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:19,
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I still have a cushion......I stole from her 16th birthday party
( FridgeBadger,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:25,
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I feel like a proper mongSo, after reading all of that, I still can't figure out what everyone was fighting about.
Anyone fancy giving a summary in simple English for me?
(Anyone fancy giving a summary in simple English for me?
undergroundmonkey Kernt,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:35,
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you have been brainwashedso I automatically win every argument no matter what you say
-classic internet gambit by billiepipersteeth
(-classic internet gambit by billiepipersteeth
cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:35,
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hahahai was just thinking of that argument as my pc loaded up.
i must say, scientists who post pics of tits on forums are the best, like, totally.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:42,
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i must say, scientists who post pics of tits on forums are the best, like, totally.
It's like two beautiful galaxies caught up in a ripple in space-timewith a belly button
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Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:34,
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It's my masterpieceI may fail as a scientist and as a human, but I'm one fuck of an artist
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 13:39,
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Just read last night's thread, and some of his 'you tube' comments.What a twat. His you tube profile has him down as 34 years old FFS - he sounds like he should be sitting with Roy, Moss and Jen in the basement.
(
da5id <YOUR SIG HERE>,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:59,
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To be fair,copying-and-pasting comments from previous arguments is quite a good time-saving tip for any pugnacious web troll.
(
monkeon schmonkeon,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:51,
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Just checked them out tooHe has much anger and hate
( simbosan is too tired,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:28,
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I saw that and thought, BUMBLAST! which is, indeed, its namewooyay
Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:51,
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Egad! and cheap at the price Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:59,
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*gets a facefull*What's the source btw?
( Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:55,
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probably something to do with Syria taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:56,
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pretty much that image, it's a quarry detonation or somethingit's not cropped and there was just white cloud behind the yellow fella
( HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:57,
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Someone's been eating their Fibre! taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:56,
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this is an out take from the new All-bran advert HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:58,
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BANG!that gonna hurt.
WOO!
(WOO!
Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:59,
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what's going on here? bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:04,
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Billie Piper's Teeth is a great user name.But he is a terrible cunt.
( LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:21,
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Not just a terrible cunt,but one that sent half of /board to sleep last night with his monotonous argument with Boris.
( addickted has attained freedom,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:25,
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I just arrived,I shall give him another chance.
My ignore list is very small.
(My ignore list is very small.
LordManley twitter.com/LordManley,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:41,
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i wouldn't botherit's not his first foray into tedium
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:31,
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You're very matter of fact aren't you HT?
(
addickted has attained freedom,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:32,
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that's his middle nameHappy Matteroffact Toats
( discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:41,
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just offering a solution to being put to sleepyou can't come up with fantastic and award winning new b3ta posts if you're asleep
( HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:46,
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what about if you dream you made an awesome postand like everyone was amazed, and you travelled the world receiving plaudits and that and all is dazzling and bright for the future.
Then you wake up.
in a dingy bedsit with no carpet, water dripping from the light that never works onto the dirty paint stained floor while the wind gently rattles the grime encrusted window, your only vista a pot holed road with a burnt out Ford Fiesta at the end of it.
(Then you wake up.
in a dingy bedsit with no carpet, water dripping from the light that never works onto the dirty paint stained floor while the wind gently rattles the grime encrusted window, your only vista a pot holed road with a burnt out Ford Fiesta at the end of it.
discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:00,
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I never remember my dreams :(not sure I even have any, I think I probably die for 7 hours each night or something
( HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:11,
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maybe you transform into your space reptilian formand report everything you have learned to the mothership!
It could happen.
(It could happen.
discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:16,
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Problem is, I can't come up with fantastic and award winning new b3ta posts when I'm awake, either.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:36,
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Nothing to apologise about on your side IMO.That twat is just an argumentative fool.
( addickted has attained freedom,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:33,
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"your scientific and social superior"I equate ( without the need for differentiation, abstract or otherwise ) someone who needs to make such aggrandising distinctions as being successfully neither.
Or, in a more general parlance relating to probability "that annoying cunt that for some reason gets stabbed round the back of the restaurant after the waiters just get bored with the interminable dribbling".
also, lol.
(Or, in a more general parlance relating to probability "that annoying cunt that for some reason gets stabbed round the back of the restaurant after the waiters just get bored with the interminable dribbling".
also, lol.
discomeats This canoe,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:55,
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on the plus sidei did look into thermodynamics this morning, so learnt something new ;)
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:33,
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thermodynamics is fascinating stuffbut a puerile digital arts community is probably not the place for me to have tried discussing it
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:00,
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PIKA!......POOOOOOO!
(
prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:07,
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I look forward to my morning BUMBLAST
spazzcaptain Misses Valin @,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:13,
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Kaboom!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:21,
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Ha ha ha ha!This is a wonderful series of images.
( Smallbrainfield,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 12:52,
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Things I have found out...1 It's hard drawing Barry Gibb without it looking like Russell Brand
2 GOTO 1
(2 GOTO 1
Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:41,
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3 It's hard to draw Jackie Mason without it looking like Barry Manilow
edjogs Collared doves are shit.,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:51,
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hahahah! He needs his massive conk adding, as Happytoast suggests
( Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:52,
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True. So are we saying that we just never talk of it again and we can all sleep well tonight?
( Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:56,
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*flounces*YOUR NOT MY REAL DAD!
( Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:08,
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Where does Barry Scott rank on this chart? taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:57,
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He's on the 'Volume' axis, rather than pitch axis Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:58,
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If it helps I'd probably fit in somewhere between Manilow and White...
(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:06,
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HahaI was at a Google office the other day and they had your tea flow chart on the wall in the kitchen.
( M3rx likes the Asian ladies,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:25,
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hahah cool really? If you go back can you sneak a photo?
( Wildyles is back to rimming chimps,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:28,
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No cameras allowed without a permitbut I guess that's why phones have cameras!
( M3rx likes the Asian ladies,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:52,
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Mr Wildyles,I think you should have a look at this: www.newscientist.com/gallery/venn/9
Might keep you busy ;)
(Might keep you busy ;)
FridgeBadger,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 11:50,
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asks the person that draws aardvark nurses with bags on their heads HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:35,
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Because it wouldn't workwith a parrot
(
smaggers Like a gibbon on helium,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:01,
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here you go sister, hang your wimple on that HappyToast Groat froth,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:38,
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nuns fucking love penguin cock Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:52,
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Hahaha!Great stuff.
:D
(:D
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:22,
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this makes me laugh like a loon*clicks*
( ferret -> twitter.com/syfyautocorrect <-,
Mon 20 Aug 2012, 2:43,
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Ear trumpet problems: An occasional series
(
Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Thu 16 Aug 2012, 12:57,
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'twas thugz wot kilt b3ta
PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:01,
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ceiling cat is wa.......AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!(
PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:35,
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i like his little paw sweeping around through a hole in the tiles before he busts through PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:41,
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That guy thought he was gonna get some pussy..........Haw Haw!
(
atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:43,
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that cartoon makes me HongLi PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:55,
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Holy Shit!I got Scotch,
Weed,
and
Iggy Pop, Raw Power
see ya's.... o/
(Weed,
and
Iggy Pop, Raw Power
see ya's.... o/
atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:11,
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Haha"Well I got me three beers and a fistful of downs
And I'm gonna get ripped so fuck you clowns."
(And I'm gonna get ripped so fuck you clowns."
mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:25,
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It was a white-black-white-black-white-black-white-black-white-black-white-black guyand a wwwwwwwwhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttteeeeebllllllaaaaaaacccckkkkkkkk wwwwwwwwhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttteeeeebllllllaaaaaaacccckkkkkkkk wwwwwwwwhhhhhiiiiiiiiitttttteeeeebllllllaaaaaaacccckkkkkkkk guy
( mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:55,
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He is clearly mixed-face Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:58,
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You can't prove that.flux (flks)
n.
1.
a. A flow or flowing.
b. A continued flow; a flood. See Synonyms at flow.
2. The flowing in of the tide.
3. Medicine The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.
4. Physics
a. The rate of flow of fluid, particles, or energy through a given surface.
b. See flux density.
c. The lines of force of an electric or magnetic field.
5. Constant or frequent change; fluctuation: "The newness and flux of the computer industry has meant many opportunities for women and minorities" (Connie Winkler).
6. Chemistry & Metallurgy A substance that aids, induces, or otherwise actively participates in fusing or flowing, as:
a. A substance applied to a surface to be joined by welding, soldering, or brazing to facilitate the flowing of solder and prevent formation of oxides.
b. A mineral added to the metals in a furnace to promote fusing or to prevent the formation of oxides.
c. An additive that improves the flow of plastics during fabrication.
d. A readily fusible glass or enamel used as a base in ceramic work.
(n.
1.
a. A flow or flowing.
b. A continued flow; a flood. See Synonyms at flow.
2. The flowing in of the tide.
3. Medicine The discharge of large quantities of fluid material from the body, especially the discharge of watery feces from the intestines.
4. Physics
a. The rate of flow of fluid, particles, or energy through a given surface.
b. See flux density.
c. The lines of force of an electric or magnetic field.
5. Constant or frequent change; fluctuation: "The newness and flux of the computer industry has meant many opportunities for women and minorities" (Connie Winkler).
6. Chemistry & Metallurgy A substance that aids, induces, or otherwise actively participates in fusing or flowing, as:
a. A substance applied to a surface to be joined by welding, soldering, or brazing to facilitate the flowing of solder and prevent formation of oxides.
b. A mineral added to the metals in a furnace to promote fusing or to prevent the formation of oxides.
c. An additive that improves the flow of plastics during fabrication.
d. A readily fusible glass or enamel used as a base in ceramic work.
atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:02,
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..something about gigawatts? Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 5:24,
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and this is their beautiful child
PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:07,
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The Inspector is not pleasedA thread was deleted...feh.
Click for bigger (199 kb)
(
Click for bigger (199 kb)
HairyTwatter certified eel and sodium salesman,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:22,
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This is everything you need right there. mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:58,
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hey i can actually ready thaton the left... dorinku or the japanese literal version of 'drink'
I know, no one cares.
(I know, no one cares.
Foxglove -- it all ends in tears anyway...,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:32,
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that's oki know the words to twinkle twinkle little star in japanese
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 5:18,
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I'm not sureWhy don't you check the last 4 or 5 pages of the archive and get back to us?
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:06,
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.............................................................................................................................................pedro...
(
atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:33,
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c'mon plz. gimme some tongue PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:38,
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i would like thome ithecrean ,but my tongue ith thtuck on thith fenth
PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:46,
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Stuck Fence Cat? PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:12,
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So THAT'S why Sauron was so tetchy, someone nicked the flake off his 99.
(
Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:29,
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That and the fact that PedroHin has killed b3ta.
(
atomic A-bomb-a-nation,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:36,
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your cute when your angry PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:26,
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Ha ha ha, only bindun about 3 times already today mate.Popular page is your friend.
( Smallbrainfield,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:13,
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Someone even posted a kind of collage of them all earlier. Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:23,
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"The Hills are alive, with the sound of Mo-sic"
addickted has attained freedom,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:48,
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I really like this and I feel bad that it is not getting any attention because of my fantastic tits and charisma.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:11,
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This is what happens when there is no school tomorrowLay off the Red Bull for a bit.
( Ghoti Fingers,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:15,
archived)
Oh dearThis young chap is obviously feeling left out. His uncle is locked up at the moment, so can't give him a 'special bit of tender loving' before bedtime.
I believe he is in Belmarsh High Security Prison at the moment?
Maybe the warders will let you write, once in a while?
(I believe he is in Belmarsh High Security Prison at the moment?
Maybe the warders will let you write, once in a while?
Tesco Quality 60.825659, -0.788337,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:46,
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But Mo can danceA sickly little dance
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cowcat Bituminous squeegee,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:23,
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Mo can dance if he wants to;He can leave the race behind.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:36,
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...another 'Welcome Back Kotter' actor dies :((
PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:16,
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too many mo'stoo much mind piss.
( Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:22,
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I now permit you to have the attention which my charisma deprived you.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:36,
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I could excuse you posting your fatty man tits but now I'm going to ignore you for being a tread deleting knob goblin
( Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:44,
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yes, you are deprived of charisma aren't you.
(
Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:48,
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Y.Mo.C.ABindun?
I know its a poor 'shop but its quick and dirty
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:01,
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I know its a poor 'shop but its quick and dirty
Yes, it was done by the Village People, a concept disco group that formed in the United States in 1977, well known for their on-stage costumes depicting American cultural stereotypes, as well as their catchy tunes and suggestive lyrics.
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:12,
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The Cowboy, the Biker, the Native American, The Policeman, the Plumber and Our Lord Jesus Christ the Almighty.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:17,
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All invented in ERMERUHCAH mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:18,
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Religious athletes perform betterOr some such nonsense. www.conservapedia.com/Sports_performance:_Religious_faith_vs._atheism
Oh, and if you're in any doubt of the power of conservatism, relativity is debunked as a theory (or should I say "theory"). www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_relativity
(Oh, and if you're in any doubt of the power of conservatism, relativity is debunked as a theory (or should I say "theory"). www.conservapedia.com/Theory_of_relativity
Ghoti Fingers,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:09,
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This'll be fun[Load of boring shit wiped by B3ta's HTML parser. Feel free to ignore the rest of this too. I do apologise.]
"More generally, and also unlike most of physics, the theories of relativity consist of complex mathematical equations relying on several hypotheses."
Has this idiot never seen the standard model of particle physics? What a fucking stupid thing to write. I think his "physics" stopped with the zeroth law of thermodynamics which states "If A=B and B=C then A=C" which is fucking remedial level maths.
"The equations for special relativity assume that it is forever impossible to attain a velocity faster than the speed of light and that all inertial frames of reference are equivalent, hypotheses that can never be fully tested."
1) Special relativity does not assume that it is impossible to attain a velocity faster than the speed of light; this is a consequence of the theory. Special relativity instead assumes that all physical observers traveling in vacuum at a constant velocity will observe the same speed of light, regardless of their own velocity. This sounds absolutely crazy, and it is, but it's forced on us by both theory -- Maxwell's equations do not specify a particular reference frame implying either that the speed of light is an absolute constant, that there is an aether, or that the equations are wrong; and electromagnetism is basically the best theory we possess (so the equations are most likely not wrong) -- and experiment (the Earth's velocity through the aether is zero, implying either that the Earth is at rest with respect to the aether, which is clearly farcical given that the Earth rotates, or that there is no aether).
2) SR does indeed assume that all inertial frames are equivalent. This is a consequence of the above.
"Relativity rejects Newton's action at a distance, which is basic to Newtonian gravity and quantum mechanics."
The most accurate theory known to humanity is quantum electrodynamics. QED is a "second quantised" theory, more fundamental than quantum mechanics, and is intrinsically (special) relativistic. This comment is facile. Who gives a fuck if action at a distance is basic to Newtonian gravity (which is wrong) and quantum mechanics (which is a non-relativistic limit of relativistic QM)?
"The mathematics of relativity assume no exceptions, yet in the time period immediately following the origin of the universe the relativity equations could not possibly have been valid."
..... what? Is he commenting on the fact that relativity breaks down at the big bang? The response to that is 'so what?' No-one ever pretended relativity is the ultimate answer to everything (including this guy's crippling BO problems). It's not a quantum theory of gravity; it's very unlikely to act as an accurate description of anything when you're looking at length scales of the order of 10^{-36} metres.
"Relativity has been met with much resistance in the scientific world."
No it hasn't.
"To date, a Nobel Prize has never been awarded for Relativity.[6]"
This is because Nobel prizes require direct experimental proof, something which is increasingly out of reach of theoretical physics and has always been out of reach of relativity. Personally, I think Einstein and Eddington should have shared a Nobel prize for relativity in the 1920s, but since then it has been impossible. Likewise, Stephen Hawking, if he lives long enough, can expect a Nobel prize if we manage to detect Hawking radiation (an intrinsically relativistic effect, by the by). Unfortunately doing this involves finding a motherfucking black hole and sitting close the horizon with a Geiger counter and I've got no intention of doing that even if we found a hole.
Also there have been Nobel prizes awarded for cosmology, which is bound inextricably to GR. You can't build the current cosmological model without GR, and yet Nobel prizes have now *twice* gone to modern physical cosmology. So in a very real way, this statement is grossly inaccurate -- and, as we should now expect, entirely unsourced.
"Louis Essen, the man credited with determining the speed of light, wrote many fiery papers against it such as The Special Theory of Relativity: A Critical Analysis.[7]"
So what? If he were still alive now he wouldn't, because experimental and theoretical evidence is all in favour of both SR and GR being extremely good theories within their (well-known) bounds of validity.
"Relativity is in conflict with quantum mechanics,[8]"
This is well-known by every physicist and never denied.
"and although theories like string theory and quantum field theory have attempted to unify relativity and quantum mechanics, neither has been entirely successful or proven."
This is well-known by every physicist and never denied. It also does not even begin to counter GR, which after all is a theory defined in its own regime of validity, and that regime is not the quantum regime.
"Unlike Newtonian physics,"
Remind me why I give the slightest shit about Newtonian physics? I'm getting the impression this prick is arguing against relativity because his brain aches if he thinks of something more complicated than "derrr that car went past me at 60mph and i'm going at 50mph so derrr i guess it derrrrrr moved at 50mph relative to me, amiright?" What a fucking moron.
"in which space and time intervals are each invariant as seen by all observers, in SR the only invariant quantity is a quadratic combination of space and time intervals (x2 - c2 t2). The (assumed) instantaneous transmission of Newtonian gravitational effects also contradicts special relativity."
Yes. Is there a problem?
"In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle suggests that virtual particles can sometimes travel faster than the speed of light which would violate causality,"
There is nothing profound about the uncertainty principle. It crops up in classical physics whenever you do a Fourier transform. Nothing special about it. And yes, QM does predict this.
"but "[t]he only known way to resolve this tension involves introducing the idea of antiparticles."[9]"
Eh? The citation is to a Nobel lecture by Frank Wilczek. He at least knows what he's talking about so I imagine he said something a hell of a lot less incoherent than this.
"Quantum field theory, a generalization of quantum mechanics, is fully compatible with special relativity but not with general relativity, and still lacks a vital piece: evidence of the graviton."
Now I'm really confused. He seems to have stopped attacking relativity at all and is just saying - repeatedly - "Quantum mechanics is not compatible with general relativity", which is one of the shittiest surprises I've ever had, and speaks neither against GR nor against the standard model.
Oh, I've run out of introduction. I must confess to not being very impressed.
("More generally, and also unlike most of physics, the theories of relativity consist of complex mathematical equations relying on several hypotheses."
Has this idiot never seen the standard model of particle physics? What a fucking stupid thing to write. I think his "physics" stopped with the zeroth law of thermodynamics which states "If A=B and B=C then A=C" which is fucking remedial level maths.
"The equations for special relativity assume that it is forever impossible to attain a velocity faster than the speed of light and that all inertial frames of reference are equivalent, hypotheses that can never be fully tested."
1) Special relativity does not assume that it is impossible to attain a velocity faster than the speed of light; this is a consequence of the theory. Special relativity instead assumes that all physical observers traveling in vacuum at a constant velocity will observe the same speed of light, regardless of their own velocity. This sounds absolutely crazy, and it is, but it's forced on us by both theory -- Maxwell's equations do not specify a particular reference frame implying either that the speed of light is an absolute constant, that there is an aether, or that the equations are wrong; and electromagnetism is basically the best theory we possess (so the equations are most likely not wrong) -- and experiment (the Earth's velocity through the aether is zero, implying either that the Earth is at rest with respect to the aether, which is clearly farcical given that the Earth rotates, or that there is no aether).
2) SR does indeed assume that all inertial frames are equivalent. This is a consequence of the above.
"Relativity rejects Newton's action at a distance, which is basic to Newtonian gravity and quantum mechanics."
The most accurate theory known to humanity is quantum electrodynamics. QED is a "second quantised" theory, more fundamental than quantum mechanics, and is intrinsically (special) relativistic. This comment is facile. Who gives a fuck if action at a distance is basic to Newtonian gravity (which is wrong) and quantum mechanics (which is a non-relativistic limit of relativistic QM)?
"The mathematics of relativity assume no exceptions, yet in the time period immediately following the origin of the universe the relativity equations could not possibly have been valid."
..... what? Is he commenting on the fact that relativity breaks down at the big bang? The response to that is 'so what?' No-one ever pretended relativity is the ultimate answer to everything (including this guy's crippling BO problems). It's not a quantum theory of gravity; it's very unlikely to act as an accurate description of anything when you're looking at length scales of the order of 10^{-36} metres.
"Relativity has been met with much resistance in the scientific world."
No it hasn't.
"To date, a Nobel Prize has never been awarded for Relativity.[6]"
This is because Nobel prizes require direct experimental proof, something which is increasingly out of reach of theoretical physics and has always been out of reach of relativity. Personally, I think Einstein and Eddington should have shared a Nobel prize for relativity in the 1920s, but since then it has been impossible. Likewise, Stephen Hawking, if he lives long enough, can expect a Nobel prize if we manage to detect Hawking radiation (an intrinsically relativistic effect, by the by). Unfortunately doing this involves finding a motherfucking black hole and sitting close the horizon with a Geiger counter and I've got no intention of doing that even if we found a hole.
Also there have been Nobel prizes awarded for cosmology, which is bound inextricably to GR. You can't build the current cosmological model without GR, and yet Nobel prizes have now *twice* gone to modern physical cosmology. So in a very real way, this statement is grossly inaccurate -- and, as we should now expect, entirely unsourced.
"Louis Essen, the man credited with determining the speed of light, wrote many fiery papers against it such as The Special Theory of Relativity: A Critical Analysis.[7]"
So what? If he were still alive now he wouldn't, because experimental and theoretical evidence is all in favour of both SR and GR being extremely good theories within their (well-known) bounds of validity.
"Relativity is in conflict with quantum mechanics,[8]"
This is well-known by every physicist and never denied.
"and although theories like string theory and quantum field theory have attempted to unify relativity and quantum mechanics, neither has been entirely successful or proven."
This is well-known by every physicist and never denied. It also does not even begin to counter GR, which after all is a theory defined in its own regime of validity, and that regime is not the quantum regime.
"Unlike Newtonian physics,"
Remind me why I give the slightest shit about Newtonian physics? I'm getting the impression this prick is arguing against relativity because his brain aches if he thinks of something more complicated than "derrr that car went past me at 60mph and i'm going at 50mph so derrr i guess it derrrrrr moved at 50mph relative to me, amiright?" What a fucking moron.
"in which space and time intervals are each invariant as seen by all observers, in SR the only invariant quantity is a quadratic combination of space and time intervals (x2 - c2 t2). The (assumed) instantaneous transmission of Newtonian gravitational effects also contradicts special relativity."
Yes. Is there a problem?
"In quantum mechanics, the uncertainty principle suggests that virtual particles can sometimes travel faster than the speed of light which would violate causality,"
There is nothing profound about the uncertainty principle. It crops up in classical physics whenever you do a Fourier transform. Nothing special about it. And yes, QM does predict this.
"but "[t]he only known way to resolve this tension involves introducing the idea of antiparticles."[9]"
Eh? The citation is to a Nobel lecture by Frank Wilczek. He at least knows what he's talking about so I imagine he said something a hell of a lot less incoherent than this.
"Quantum field theory, a generalization of quantum mechanics, is fully compatible with special relativity but not with general relativity, and still lacks a vital piece: evidence of the graviton."
Now I'm really confused. He seems to have stopped attacking relativity at all and is just saying - repeatedly - "Quantum mechanics is not compatible with general relativity", which is one of the shittiest surprises I've ever had, and speaks neither against GR nor against the standard model.
Oh, I've run out of introduction. I must confess to not being very impressed.
boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:48,
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"LOL @ conservapedia"
That was a hell of a wall of text. I apologise.
Edit: Fucking hell, it was an even bigger wall of text before the B3ta filters wiped out half of it.
(That was a hell of a wall of text. I apologise.
Edit: Fucking hell, it was an even bigger wall of text before the B3ta filters wiped out half of it.
boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:53,
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Incorrect, and what appears to be correct is just quoted out of context. Now fuck off back to GCSE physics you peasant - consider that a direct order from your social and scientific superior.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:59,
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Do you even understand why the zeroth law of thermodynamics is called the zeroth law of thermodynamics? And before you answer I don't mean the rhetoric, and I don't mean the fuzzy bedtime stories. I mean...do you understand the implication of this?.......and why the response to this very question is a simple one, and also a direct and relevant case in point as to why the two pages of contextual flatulence and verbal diarrhea you just posted is flawed in a very fundamental sense? And why your arguments in response to everything that guy just said is nothing but affirmation of what he said? Because I think you have demonstrated that you really don't understand any of this at all.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:07,
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I like youYou remind me of prodigy.
Do I understand the zeroth law? Yes. Do I know why it's called the zeroth law? Yes. (Actually it was because it was formulated after the first and second laws. I don't know if the third came before it or not. But the zeroth law is more fundamental than the first, so it's the zeroth law.) Do I understand the implications? Yes. Was everything I posted an affirmation of what he said? No. Some of what he said was valid - basically it boiled down to "general relativity is not compatible with quantum mechanics", which is hardly a surprise. The rest of what he said was simply inaccurate.
Edit: That's a lie. Some of it wasn't actually inaccurate but instead irrelevant to his thesis "the theory of relativity is wrong".
(Do I understand the zeroth law? Yes. Do I know why it's called the zeroth law? Yes. (Actually it was because it was formulated after the first and second laws. I don't know if the third came before it or not. But the zeroth law is more fundamental than the first, so it's the zeroth law.) Do I understand the implications? Yes. Was everything I posted an affirmation of what he said? No. Some of what he said was valid - basically it boiled down to "general relativity is not compatible with quantum mechanics", which is hardly a surprise. The rest of what he said was simply inaccurate.
Edit: That's a lie. Some of it wasn't actually inaccurate but instead irrelevant to his thesis "the theory of relativity is wrong".
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:13,
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Eh? Prodge can't string together a coherent Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:18,
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uncalled for..well done troll
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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:35,
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You have just demonstated that you are "coached" : i.e. a product of a generation of dumbed-down scientific education. Taught to repeat parrot-fasion rather than discover and interpret for themselvs. You fail - but it is not you I blame.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:19,
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That's generous of youI'd hate for you to blame me. I am, after all, merely a poor sap who was brainwashed by those fiendish lecturers.
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:22,
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Says the one who never includes any proof with his wild arguments.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:22,
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To be fair to the man (assuming he's a man)I didn't provide any citations or proofs either, merely my own assertions. I do have a firm basis for my assertions - though I must confess I don't work in quantum gravity, although I have published a paper on the cosmological consequences of a particular, possible result of such - but there's little point clogging up the board with that kind of thing.
(Which is why I also made that horrible wall of text megasmall.)
((Which is why I also made that horrible wall of text megasmall.)
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:24,
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I do not need to prove that that [genuine and competent] self-styled "modern" physicists should "give the slightest shit about Newtonian physics" any more than I need to prove that Mr Blobby is the real messenger of the Islamic religion....and that's just one of the cringe-worthy things he said.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:30,
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But when you refer to yourself as someone's "social and scientific superior"and accuse them of "contextual flatulence and verbal diarrhea" without a single word of corroborating evidence, you come across as a non-scienific, attention seeking twat.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:36,
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You can trust me on that one - I really am your social and scientific superior.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:39,
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Because you've done nothing since you arrived here but make friends and make clear and scientifically sound assertions.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:44,
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Unfortunately for you what you think doesn't constitute a sound scientific argument.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:52,
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Yes but I'm right aren't I? Like when I sit on the bog and strain from a bit, but not ever really knowing for sure that it was shit comming out of my arse making that loud splash, and without using any scientific methodology at all...I just know it's shitGot the point yet, peasant?
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:14,
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That because you refuse to look at your own shit your undiagnosed bowel cancer will claim you within 3 months?
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:17,
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HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA real world lols
( arrangedletters,
Thu 16 Aug 2012, 3:05,
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It is when a scientist (me) is arguing with a toilet cleaner (you). Q.E.D.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:19,
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No, not really. That would mean an underlying assumption that all scientists are scientfic all the time.And my occupation has absolutely no effect on whether your assertions are sound.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:24,
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For a scientist you're showing a critical lack of critical thinking.
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Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:26,
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I'd just like to drop in here and say that I am your sexual superior.
(
gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 3:31,
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Now you're taking things out of contextIn the context of the page, Newtonian physics is introduced in contrast to relativity. When we're discussing relativity - and particularly when we're discussing that relativity is "wrong", whatever that means in a physical theory - Newtonian physics is utterly irrelevant. What I meant by that phrase, as I have no doubt you're perfectly aware, is that Newtonian physics bears no relevance to whether relativity is, or isn't, an accurate theory of gravity and motion. I should maybe add that it is a necessary condition of all relativistic theories that they reduce, in weak gravitational fields, low energies and slow motion, to Newtonian physics. I assumed that this point be taken as read.
I'm very sorry I criticised your sainted Newtonian physics. Does it help that when discussing any alternatives to general relativity (which is, after all, entirely "wrong", for very different reasons to the ones given on Conservapedia) I'm very happy to say "I don't give the slightest shit about general relativity"?
(I'm very sorry I criticised your sainted Newtonian physics. Does it help that when discussing any alternatives to general relativity (which is, after all, entirely "wrong", for very different reasons to the ones given on Conservapedia) I'm very happy to say "I don't give the slightest shit about general relativity"?
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:39,
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Oh dear oh dear....where to start with you kids on the basics.......what gave us calculus (and I don't mean getting a take away bargain bucket of KFC and not brushing your teeth before going to bed in your mummy's council flat where you live). Yep - The ancient Greeks.
But what made us adept in calculus? Newtonian physics. What other field is highly dependant on this stepping-stone? Quantum Physics.
And there's more. Unfortunately for you, you are not my responsibility.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:45,
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But what made us adept in calculus? Newtonian physics. What other field is highly dependant on this stepping-stone? Quantum Physics.
And there's more. Unfortunately for you, you are not my responsibility.
Thank you for dripping me what little wisdom you deign toI will be forever grateful
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:47,
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I only wish you could even begin to understand the basics that I am trying to drum into you. You need to stop regurgatating and start *thinking*. Read back what that guy said to you - read back your response...............................and even those you stand by play Devil's Advocate with - and when you do, free your mind of your investement in your knee-jerk responses and decouple yourself of all emotion. Maybe then you will learn something - because on balance, what he says makes more sense than your rebukes.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:53,
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I like Star Trek. Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:56,
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Some people have a habit of answering the question they wanted to be asked rather than the question they were asked:Bronze Medal : Chloe Smith, Silver Medal: James T Kirk, Gold Medal : Boris The Spider.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:59,
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Ah, but you haven't asked me any questionsYou've called me names, but you haven't asked me any questions, other than "Do you understand the zeroth law of thermodynamics". I answered, "Yes, I do."
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:06,
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I'm a doctor, Jim, not a brick layer. Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:17,
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Hmmmthis is why narcissism and coke is a bad mix.
G'night all.
(G'night all.
FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector.,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:00,
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Out of genuine interestwhat are you trying to ask me to do?
Read the rhetoric of someone who, for his own personal reasons, has a beef against general relativity? I'm perfectly happy with people having a beef against general relativity - it's very obviously not a complete theory; some of the reasons for this are in the Conservapedia article, while others aren't. My problem with his article was that he's misrepresenting GR, and making falacious and inaccurate arguments to argue against it - he is arguing from a pre-conceived position of prejudice and trying to bring in arguments to support this.
You may not believe me, and it's of little consequence to me whether you do or not, but I can assure you I've gone through special and general relativity from the first principles up to practical applications, and am well aware of the shortcomings of the theories, which are plentiful, and the successes of the theories, which are also plentiful.
I would comment that simply because Newton developed his form of calculus for his theory of mechanics, and simply because the most familiar form of quantum mechanics is the Schroedinger equation, which is a differential equation, this does not suggest that these are somehow special and inviolable as opposed to general relativity, which is what your logic suggests. The immediate response is that general relativity is nothing more, and nothing less, than differential geometry with a second-order equation relating a metric to the distribution of matter; since even in the Schroedinger formulation QM is a marriage of "calculus" and linear algebra, one could use your logic to suggest that GR is actually more pure than QM.
Thankfully we don't have to follow such logic; from both theoretical and experimental evidence, we can say with safety that neither Newtonian physics, nor general relativity, and nor quantum mechanics, form a complete description of physics and instead are all valid within their own regimes. Newtonian physics is a limit of both quantum theory and relativity, so we can take these theories as being more fundamental. Neither QM nor relativity is fundamental.
As for what is more fundamental than QM and relativity, obviously this is an open question. The most accurate current theory remains QED, which is a special relativistic, quantised theory of the interactions between electrons and photons. However, it has as yet proven impossible to satisfactorily include gravity in such a description of nature -- while it has been known for a very long time that a massless, spin-2 particle would act as a graviton and in the classical limit produces relativity, quantising this is an intractable problem. Progress is being made, certainly. Given the number of avenues people have pursued, at least some of them are certainly going the wrong way. Personally, I think following the entire idea of a graviton is going the wrong way, and we're likely to at least gain some insights following recent work in the emergent nature of gravity -- describing gravity as a thermodynamical construct, not a fundamental one. There is a neatness in symmetries emerging, rather than the usual approach of symmetries breaking, as we approach our common regimes.
But all this is kind of beside the point. I'm not sure what you're asking me to do here, because I'm not particularly aware of "regurgitating", nor of failing to "think". I am however aware of an impressive level of bile and abuse and unsubstantiated assertions from your side.
(Read the rhetoric of someone who, for his own personal reasons, has a beef against general relativity? I'm perfectly happy with people having a beef against general relativity - it's very obviously not a complete theory; some of the reasons for this are in the Conservapedia article, while others aren't. My problem with his article was that he's misrepresenting GR, and making falacious and inaccurate arguments to argue against it - he is arguing from a pre-conceived position of prejudice and trying to bring in arguments to support this.
You may not believe me, and it's of little consequence to me whether you do or not, but I can assure you I've gone through special and general relativity from the first principles up to practical applications, and am well aware of the shortcomings of the theories, which are plentiful, and the successes of the theories, which are also plentiful.
I would comment that simply because Newton developed his form of calculus for his theory of mechanics, and simply because the most familiar form of quantum mechanics is the Schroedinger equation, which is a differential equation, this does not suggest that these are somehow special and inviolable as opposed to general relativity, which is what your logic suggests. The immediate response is that general relativity is nothing more, and nothing less, than differential geometry with a second-order equation relating a metric to the distribution of matter; since even in the Schroedinger formulation QM is a marriage of "calculus" and linear algebra, one could use your logic to suggest that GR is actually more pure than QM.
Thankfully we don't have to follow such logic; from both theoretical and experimental evidence, we can say with safety that neither Newtonian physics, nor general relativity, and nor quantum mechanics, form a complete description of physics and instead are all valid within their own regimes. Newtonian physics is a limit of both quantum theory and relativity, so we can take these theories as being more fundamental. Neither QM nor relativity is fundamental.
As for what is more fundamental than QM and relativity, obviously this is an open question. The most accurate current theory remains QED, which is a special relativistic, quantised theory of the interactions between electrons and photons. However, it has as yet proven impossible to satisfactorily include gravity in such a description of nature -- while it has been known for a very long time that a massless, spin-2 particle would act as a graviton and in the classical limit produces relativity, quantising this is an intractable problem. Progress is being made, certainly. Given the number of avenues people have pursued, at least some of them are certainly going the wrong way. Personally, I think following the entire idea of a graviton is going the wrong way, and we're likely to at least gain some insights following recent work in the emergent nature of gravity -- describing gravity as a thermodynamical construct, not a fundamental one. There is a neatness in symmetries emerging, rather than the usual approach of symmetries breaking, as we approach our common regimes.
But all this is kind of beside the point. I'm not sure what you're asking me to do here, because I'm not particularly aware of "regurgitating", nor of failing to "think". I am however aware of an impressive level of bile and abuse and unsubstantiated assertions from your side.
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:05,
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Again you are regurgatating...I've read everything you have just written before. You are failing to think objectively. Go back and try again.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:16,
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Thank you for taking the time to respond to my pointsIt means a lot to me
( boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:17,
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You spend too much time dumping out large volumes of what you think you know, rather than what is asked of you. You display no evidence of independant thought or adaptability.That is why you fail.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:22,
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"Do you even understand why the zeroth law of thermodynamics is called the zeroth law of thermodynamics? And before you answer I don't mean the rhetoric, and I don't mean the fuzzy bedtime stories. I mean...do you understand the implication of this?..."READ the question, UNDERSTAND it. Then when you think you have understood it, read it 5 times more. Then THINK - THEN answer.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:29,
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The answer was"yes". It's not his fault your question was shit.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:34,
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If a body A is in thermal equilibrium with a body B, and the body B is in thermal equilibrium with a body C, then A is in thermal equilibrium with C.
I know you'd view that as "regurgitation", but that's because that's what the zeroth law of thermodynamics says. If two systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other, one of which is in thermal equilibrium with a third, all three are in thermal equilibrium with each other. Meaning no energy passes between them. This is what the zeroth law of thermodynamics says. What you want it to say is a different matter and one which isn't of very much significance.
It is called the zeroth law because it is more fundamental than the first law. The zeroth law is about bodies in thermal equilibrium, when no energy is being transferred. The first law of thermodynamics concerns the conservation of energy. As a result, the zeroth law is more fundamental than the first. It has nothing to do with the number "zero" in any physical sense; it is merely the law that comes before the first law. If you're digging extra meaning out of this then good luck and I look forward to the paper.
None of this is rhetoric, none of it is "fuzzy bedtime stories" (though if your bedtime stories consisted of pointless debates online about the zeroth law of thermodynamics then you have my pity), it's simply how the laws are defined.
That's genuinely the only thing you've asked me, though you have littered it with plenty of self-aggrandising abuse, which has certainly proved diverting.
(I know you'd view that as "regurgitation", but that's because that's what the zeroth law of thermodynamics says. If two systems are in thermal equilibrium with each other, one of which is in thermal equilibrium with a third, all three are in thermal equilibrium with each other. Meaning no energy passes between them. This is what the zeroth law of thermodynamics says. What you want it to say is a different matter and one which isn't of very much significance.
It is called the zeroth law because it is more fundamental than the first law. The zeroth law is about bodies in thermal equilibrium, when no energy is being transferred. The first law of thermodynamics concerns the conservation of energy. As a result, the zeroth law is more fundamental than the first. It has nothing to do with the number "zero" in any physical sense; it is merely the law that comes before the first law. If you're digging extra meaning out of this then good luck and I look forward to the paper.
None of this is rhetoric, none of it is "fuzzy bedtime stories" (though if your bedtime stories consisted of pointless debates online about the zeroth law of thermodynamics then you have my pity), it's simply how the laws are defined.
That's genuinely the only thing you've asked me, though you have littered it with plenty of self-aggrandising abuse, which has certainly proved diverting.
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:36,
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Again you are answering the question you want to be asked and not the question you asked. Read it again.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:38,
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"Do you even understand why the zeroth law of thermodynamics is called the zeroth law of thermodynamics?"
Yes. It's because it is more fundamental than the first law. I've now said this two or three times and it's growing tiring.
"I mean...do you understand the implication of this?"
Yes, yes, I do. I have also explained this, in the post you replied to, rather obnoxiously.
I'm growing rather tired of this, not least as I have to work in the morning, and internet debates with someone who appears to have a different definition of "Do", "you", "understand", "zero" and "thermodynamics" is not a particuarly productive use of either of our time. I wish you luck in your scientific career and look forward to reading your research.
(Yes. It's because it is more fundamental than the first law. I've now said this two or three times and it's growing tiring.
"I mean...do you understand the implication of this?"
Yes, yes, I do. I have also explained this, in the post you replied to, rather obnoxiously.
I'm growing rather tired of this, not least as I have to work in the morning, and internet debates with someone who appears to have a different definition of "Do", "you", "understand", "zero" and "thermodynamics" is not a particuarly productive use of either of our time. I wish you luck in your scientific career and look forward to reading your research.
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:41,
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Please don't make me embarrass you by making me elaborate further.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:41,
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god, fuck!i thought moggy was dull
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:07,
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Boris, I'm a physicistand I still didn't read all that.
Might do tomorrow though.
(Might do tomorrow though.
An Egg ,D,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:31,
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and you fail cos you are a supercilious cuntif he fails it's only as a scientist, not as a human being. I think he comes out better in the end
( simbosan is too tired,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 1:33,
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you've just gotten out of a gcse physics lesson, haven't you?
(
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:37,
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he is rather good at winding people up, he does the same thing over on youtube, in fact a quick scan for his user name revealed that he's used some of the same lines on here as he has on youtube. just sayin'.
( quackpipe swings like a pendulum do,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 4:09,
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haha, 'your' not wrong(that should get him going!)
( simbosan is too tired,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 14:24,
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well done on mentioning my name for no reason other than to please the trolls
(
prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 9:38,
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i was just messing around, it wasn't meant to be taken badly
(
boris the spider,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:02,
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well done, great job. *slow clap*
prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:05,
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There's all kinds of wrongness in my archives
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:14,
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spider more like*stamps on cat spider*
( real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 2:22,
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First ever post! Apologies in advance if I've breached some etiquette ...
She doesn't look particularly happy about itGood start! Welcome.
( Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:57,
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Good subjectPull up a kitten and you'll never be allowed to leave, by the way.
(there may be a post or two about making the image a little smaller but that will come with experience. Carry on.)
((there may be a post or two about making the image a little smaller but that will come with experience. Carry on.)
Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana.,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:58,
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It's only 90kand I can't imagine too many people are on crappy enough screens that that's filling the whole thing. All checks in fine from where I'm sitting...
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:01,
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Filesize is fine. Dimensions are a bit big, but who doesn't like a bit of a stretch every now and again? Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:02,
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SOME OF US ARE STILL VIEWING B3TA ON TELEX PRINT OUTascii.
:-(
(:-(
Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana.,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:13,
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FuckTelex? What is this magickery you speak of?
We rely on smoke signals thru variable sized straw pipes to make reproductions.
(We rely on smoke signals thru variable sized straw pipes to make reproductions.
Tesco Quality 60.825659, -0.788337,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:22,
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What luxury!I experience b3ta through the medium of interpretive dance.
The CDCs are most impressive.
(The CDCs are most impressive.
Foxglove -- it all ends in tears anyway...,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:41,
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Our reputations obviously precede us, but this all looks ettiquette-safe to me.Welcome to b3ta, ben :)
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:01,
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It's bindun, but who gives a fuckYou'll never leave.
( Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:05,
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BindunArg yeah I just found the other one. Pants indeed. Welp! Lesson learned. Thanks!
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:15,
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I wouldn't worry about it We all do it it at some point :)
( Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:17,
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Big jobs Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:31,
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7? I don't get it...Welcome. Ignore the cunts and shop a kitten, etc.
( addickted has attained freedom,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:12,
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Cunts? We've all been refreshingly friendly so far. Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:15,
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Maybe he meant cunt in its anatomical sense
(
Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:31,
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DMPB has me right.I was forever falling over vaginas when I first walked around here.
( addickted has attained freedom,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:37,
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This is just fineAlthough with experience, you will learn to shoehorn a Quo reference or sturdy girl in the background somewhere. Next time eh.
( mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:16,
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Mind if I ask who she is?For research purposes, obviously. Sports research.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:20,
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If it isn't the famous London Zolzthen it might be Ana Claudia Silva, maybe I'm too tired to focus but her face looks about right. www.nbcolympics.com/athletes/athlete=silva-ana-claudia-1085751/index.html
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:30,
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Looks like maybe I should've watched this London Zoiz thing after allEdit: also, thanks!
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:33,
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If you're British I think you're meant to have fallen in love with Laura Trott (who is a cyclist and not a runner)and with Jessica Ennis who is a heptathlete and not Dennis Pennis.
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:34,
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fucking heptathletes.that's what they get for sharing needles.
( Foxglove -- it all ends in tears anyway...,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:43,
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i'm running through sports to come up with a witty responsealas, i'm as witty as roadkill
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:48,
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They can have silver and bronze, but Ana Claudia Silva gets gold.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:44,
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I get the impression you're besottedShe could probably beat you at an arm-wrestling contest
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:49,
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that's probably a good thing since if that's the right girl she runs the 200m and the 4x100m relayand didn't set the world alight in either of them
( boris the spider,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:01,
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Presumably because they decided the winners on the wrong basis then.
(,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:08,
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nicereminds me of the beach volleyball one i did.
www.b3ta.com/board/10817306
(www.b3ta.com/board/10817306
Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:20,
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As well it should!As it is exactly the same joke, repeated by me due to a shameful lack of research.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 8:38,
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:Dwelcome to b3ta
( Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 10:31,
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Great first post!You can stay.
(The only etiquette you may have breached is that if you are going to post good pictures, make them 400 pixels or less wide so they can fit on the front page)
((The only etiquette you may have breached is that if you are going to post good pictures, make them 400 pixels or less wide so they can fit on the front page)
monkeon schmonkeon,
Thu 16 Aug 2012, 11:57,
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People who quarrel don't realisethat everything has to die.
People who do realise this
find little to quarrel about.
(People who do realise this
find little to quarrel about.
Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:58,
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Hurray!
(
Cassius Kray floats like a butterfly, stings like a trout,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:53,
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HYDROCEPHALUS!But, woo :-)
( Rotating Wobbly Hat That's not a banana. THIS is a banana.,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:59,
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:) Cheer up, grumpy butt!
( mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:18,
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Needs more smugness
Happy b3taday, Paul
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:46,
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Everything needs more Cockweasle.THIS... is poetry.
( Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:54,
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IndeedAll of the above ^
mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 22:19,
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IndeedCockweasel produces the best art, I sit, flaccid without purpose awaiting the great artists next anal barf. Top fuck-bayer, will shop again.
(,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 18:23,
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He's singing "Je regrette rien"Meanwhile, I have just noticed there is a moon key on my new keyboard. I don't know what it does. I am scared to press it.
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:46,
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No don't, the moon will crash out of the sky and hurtle towards your house.
(
Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:49,
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I can live with the risk*edit
Holy shit I have one on Function F5
(Holy shit I have one on Function F5
Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:51,
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My F5 has a fucking SUN on it motherfuckers.Yeah, THE GODDAMN SUN!
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:52,
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I have a sun button next to the moon buttonO_o
( Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:53,
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My moon is on the ESC key.I also have two more suns on my arrow keys.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:56,
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So F5 sun is daddy sun, which turns the backlight off completely.Arrow key suns control screen brightness.
( Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:59,
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Thinking about it, those Lunar Armageddon buttons were probably a bad idea.
(
Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:52,
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Ok...Hmmm, seems like it puts the computer in sleep mode
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:53,
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That was the computer realising there's no purpose in carrying on, as we're all going to die in 21 minutes due to that button pressing :'(
(
Mu Dinofiddler,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:54,
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And there's me thinking it was "Wolf" mode...
(
Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...",
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 23:00,
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I thought it was "Launch massive fucking jihad" mode... Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:17,
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Happy b3taday! Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:49,
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Chronic Zebra stomps through the Inifinite Discoon his Journey to the End of Time
( Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:31,
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Oh hai only spliff on the internets :D
Ham o' Shatner -.-- --- ..- .-. / .- .-.. .-.. / --. .- -.--,
Tue 14 Aug 2012, 21:34,
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Love thiswhat is sauce and hermanisation?
( spazzcaptain Misses Valin @,
Wed 15 Aug 2012, 0:02,
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