
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:22, Reply)

Having just claimed a majority government and after recently seeing Spider-Man 3, David Cameron decides he has only one thing left to do... Strut!
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:50, Reply)

*political
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:53, Reply)

I notice that is to the left of your keyboard.
Handy (huh huh) link for you:
ehealthforum.com/health/ejaculation-direction-not-straight-t206325.html
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:16, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:28, Reply)

Handy link for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_disability
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 8:34, Reply)

Have to be honest, I've not seen one of these movies because I am an adult.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:17, Reply)

not anti-dave enough for me though. he's a total cunt.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:59, Reply)

Total dicks go in, charming babies come out.
"Vile amongst the vile" would be my preferred description.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:18, Reply)

and wipes, but it always remains shitty.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:50, Reply)

....look...um....hermmmm
sounds......fucking diabolical
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:27, Reply)

I expect the Giger estate will be setting their lawyers upon him soon. Fire, by comparison, would be a mercy.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 22:53, Reply)

however, there's a reason electric guitars are made from dense wood. The resonance sounds awful in plastic (didn't they learn this in the 80's?) as it comes across like a constipated wasp in an empty water bottle. You can put whatever pickups you like in it, it will sound shit, no matter how it looks. Resonance effectively details how the strings vibrate in the guitar's body, so anything other than wood (eg: graphite, hello again the 80's) tends to sound tinny and stupid, much like the above example. Not h8ting, educ8ing! ;)
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:21, Reply)

Usvsth3m and ampp3d facing the axe.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:24, Reply)

though i've never really understood the point of usvsth3m; reporting on who's screwed up on twitter or facebook seems just like gossip to be honest. Sorry for the team though
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:28, Reply)

but it was really not very good. I think it was aimed at the very young, probably the brief, and it patronised them. I hope they enjoy greater success elsewhere.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:35, Reply)

British Media Award winners 2014
Launch of the Year
Winner: UsVsTh3m from Trinity Mirror
The judges praised the impact of a very small team on a large company, in particular the way they have managed to attract new audiences in an agile way. Creating a start up department that does well in an established organisation isn't easy, and UsVsTh3m have done the job exceedingly well. They have built a compelling business case for a new market of monetised digital experiments within a traditional publisher.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:04, Reply)

and hope Rob will get picked up soon but have to add that the writing was on the wall for a while. Even before it got pulled into the main mirror website Usvsth3m had lost it's focus. What started out as a site for Internet laughs (lols I believe the kids call it) with a left leaning edge, turned into a ranty stream of political and politically correct articles. Gone were the games and fun stuff, in came articles about how certain toilet signs are homophobic. There was also a weird obsession with Taylor Swift. Some of the articles were good, amusing and thought provoking but most were so far from the original site it became tedious.
From what I've read I think the editorial policy was shifted and Rob sidelined.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:06, Reply)

but I suspect that was about as good an attempt as they could have hoped to make at that demographic.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:55, Reply)

personally I wouldn't mind a few ads if it helps keep pay for the server hamsters. Targeted cookie based ad banners wouldn't bother me. Ok most of the ads will be for monkey and midget porn but fuck it, if it keeps this place going. I hate to think what the ads would be for your average /talk b3tan.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:45, Reply)

a comment on the gruaniad said "Great concepts, rubbish names. Circa 2005 internet slang" i hope that's not what it was that killed it. i was seeing usvth3m more and more on facebook too.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:51, Reply)

"I found UsVsTh3m when Rob Manuel was heavily promoting it through the B3ta newsletter. Not bad overall, nice mix of lists, quizzes, and games. A good timewaster, with some stuff worth sharing. Unfortunately, the "Us" content gradually moved away from the good things (like the games - these were the USP of the site) towards hand-wringing-social-justice-warrior-claptap ("this portrayal of a woman in it is NOT OK" sort of thing), and repetitive, tedious lists ("here's yet another ten reasons why Ukip are racist" or "five ways the Tories will kill the poor"). Basically, it turned into a crap Buzzfeed written by 20 year-olds who rely too much on safe spaces and trigger warnings. Shame how it turned out."
In part because it feels that's where and why it lost it's lustre for your average bod who just want's a moment spared from work; though to be honest the change sounds more like something from above dictating change that way, especially after they were moved to the mirror site.
Rob has always seemed like one of the lads with a natural leaning to the left throughout the years i've seen him on b3ta, but he's never come across as someone who was up to shoving his political ethos to much down your gob, which is where this seems to have gone.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 23:51, Reply)

this isn't a great example, but I felt it revealed him to be a rather blind "Islam is 'A' OK and anyone who says otherwise is an evil racist." I'm not talking about the link, but the thread. You are in it, and seem to be on board with Rob.
www.b3ta.com/links/FBI_issue_25_new_flyers_to_warn_against_TEHRISTS
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 1:32, Reply)

114k of 200k signatures.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 15:55, Reply)

More likely there'll be huge legal roadblocks preventing it happening. Probably waste a few millions drafting it up. Gives Gove something to do I suppose. As an English Lit graduate he's more than qualified to oversee it.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:02, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:10, Reply)

than they take a blind bit of notice of a petition.
If people chased Tories in marginal seats with large flaming torches and pitchforks, that might work.
This bunch aren't nicknamed the Tory Taliban for nothing.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:17, Reply)

People who voted them in only care about home ownership.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:18, Reply)

You can only exert pressure if there's a weak spot. They have a majority, they will just push all the nasty stuff as fast as they can. They have 5 years to do as much damage as they can, faster they do it, the less chance they can be stopped.
They don't give a flying fuck about petitions
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:51, Reply)

I think 38degress is going to be pretty busy for the next 5 years...
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:17, Reply)

but as i see it there is no harm in trying.
That link, though, won't let people residing outside the UK sign.
this one though, through change.org shared by a facebook fiend this morning, does accept outside UK addresses:
www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-we-call-on-the-government-and-the-prime-minister-to-provide-a-national-referendum-on-the-planned-abolition-of-the-human-rights-act?recruiter=73997710&utm_source
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:18, Reply)

Right to life
- I think that's fairly well covered in existing UK legislation
Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
- check
Right to liberty and security
- yep, though this is open to as many interpretations as you like
Freedom from slavery and forced labour
- uh-huh
Right to a fair trial
- I thought it was the Daily Mail and their readers who were most likely to say that the UK justice system is fucked
No punishment without law
- Magna Carta, bitch
Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
- You might have a point with regards to a snooper's charter, but that's democracy for you. Suck it up, not enough people cared to vote in the other lot
Freedom of thought, belief and religion
- See below
Freedom of expression
- Unless it's to express the opinion that teh Geyz should be stoned to death
Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
- Again, we were among the pioneers of this. We're not fucking Serbia, are we?
Right to education
- Remind me where Malala pitched up after she got shot
Right to participate in free elections
- And not to act all butthurt when they don't deliver the government YOU want
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:24, Reply)

"Right to a fair trial
- I thought it was the Daily Mail and their readers who were most likely to say that the UK justice system is fucked"
...but the justice system in this country is fucked. Like really. Legal aid? might as well not exist now amongst many other loverly things. Never mind eh, we've got Gove in charge now /facepalm
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:41, Reply)

Easier to tell someone "take it to Strasbourg" than actually to do it.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:42, Reply)

I'm baffled by the hysteria and scare mongering surrounding this. I think stupid people think just because it's called the Human Rights Act it is automatically a good thing.
As far as I can work out the aim of this is twofold:
1) to give us back the ability to deport dangerous convicted criminals.
2) to deny people in prison the vote, which is part and parcel of the penalty of a custodial sentence.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:55, Reply)

though I shouldn't be surprised given the hysteria we had during the election, and in general at the moment
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:24, Reply)

The proposal states that the bill should "limit the use of human rights laws to the most serious cases. [...] There will be a threshold below which Convention rights will not be engaged, ensuring UK courts strike out trivial cases."
That is, the government will decide when you can exercise your human rights.
Speaking of hysteria and scare-mongering, by the way, I think that's quite an apt description of the pro-BBR stance: www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bella-sankey/human-rights-act-british-bill-of-rights_b_7257376.html.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:26, Reply)

"ensuring UK courts strike out trivial cases." The judiciary is not the government.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:33, Reply)

which will allow the judiciary to decide when you can exercise your human rights. How is that any better? And how will the threshold be set?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:55, Reply)

The government puts them in place via statute, and the the judiciary, independently of the government, interprets and applies them. How is any legal threshold ever set? Define the burden of proof thresholds 'beyond all reasonable doubt' and 'on the balance of probabilities'. They're effectively just subjective abstracts, often, but not always, that subjectivity is moderated by a jury in an attempt at objectivity, but they work pretty well nevertheless.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:08, Reply)

having a system in which individuals (or small groups of individuals) decide when you can even access your basic human rights is more open to abuse than a system in which you can always access them.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:12, Reply)

It's about application of the law. The law has always been made and administered by a small group of individuals. What exactly do you mean "access"? It's about what you can and cannot expect the law to allow you to do. I've never "accessed" my human rights, mainly because I've never committed a serious crime, and the only state bullying I've experienced has been lawful (HMRC) or fairly inconsequential, but infuriating (old bill). I resent the tax man more than old bill.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:26, Reply)

Having an in-state body deciding whether state bullying has occurred is not as good an idea as having an external body decide. Do you disagree with that?
And I realise (acronyms alert!) replacing the HRA with a BBR will not remove us from the ECHR, but as you say yourself below it will bring our signature into question.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 22:39, Reply)

I kid, I kid. There is a very good separation between state (i.e. government of the day) and judiciary. You may have noticed that governments constantly (Labour and Tory) take issue with the judiciary. The whole legal aid thing has meant that currently lawyers aren't keen on the the Tories, and not without good reason. But always retain a healthy scepticism when people who earn their bread from the tax payers start whinging about potential loss of income or job security. I had loads of shit teachers as a kid. How often do you hear of a teacher being sacked for being shit? Anyway, I'm going to bed now. Don't worry about the HRA, we're not going to see a fascististic police state appear in the next five years.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 23:43, Reply)

Or put it another way: What is the harm in allowing it?
I've yet to see a coherent argument for this particular policy, let alone one that justifies throwing out the entire Human Rights Act.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:31, Reply)

I think it is part of the punishment. It is frankly nothing in comparison to being literally incarcerated. It's mainly a symbolic withdrawal of a freedom. On a more practical and pragmatic level, it would massively distort a constituency's size and make up, and people forced into a particular prison can rarely claim to have to been part of the community or have any connection to the constituency in which their prison lies. Why should they therefore have a say in who represents that constituency?
The problem with the HRA, is you can't just throw bits of it out. Ideally we wouldn't throw the entire thing out, just tweak it. But that isn't really how statutes work: it's all or nothing, hence the idea or replacing it with a Bill of Rights.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:47, Reply)

by the use of a postal ballot in the prisoner's home constituency. Yes it's more expensive, but in comparison to the cost of locking someone up in the first place it's small beer.
As for it being a part of the punishment, that ultimately boils down to a "We do it like this because we've always done it like this" argument. It's not really an argument based on any reasoning or principle, merely an unwillingness to change. It's not like punishments haven't changed over the years - we used to lock people up in stocks after all.
If the punishment aspect of the disenfranchisement is small in comparison to the deprivation of liberty (and let's face it, it is), then I fail to see why we don't just accept the decision of the European Court of Human Rights and change the punishment accordingly.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:07, Reply)

How do you therefore define their home constituency? Maybe we should just stop locking people up just because we always have done.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 20:32, Reply)

Persons of No Fixed Abode already have a procedure to enrol on the Electoral Register. There's no reason to change that.
As for your final sentence, maybe so and I'd support that. There's plenty of evidence that suggests that locking people up is counterproductive with regard to preventing reoffending. However that's unlikely to be acted upon in the near future due to such ideas being deemed politically unpalateable.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 23:34, Reply)

I'll send Mark Bridger and Ian Huntley round to babysit your daughters next time you fancy a curry. Or maybe just fuck those full life tariffs and move them into the bail hostel in your neighbourhood, rather than their "home constituencies". As long as your delusional ideologies remain intact, that's the main thing. Never mind realities, practicalities and the dark side of human nature. Enjoy your dopiaza.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 23:52, Reply)

A weak Straw Man argument coupled with an Ad Hominem. I think this conversation has reached its conclusion.
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 0:24, Reply)

They will get out if they live long enough. Votes for Broadmoor! is there always a clear dichotomy between protection of the public and punishment? Is rehabilitation always possible? Is the world as black and white as your ideologies?
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 1:44, Reply)

Surely being banged up for crimes looses some rights to contribute to society in an election.
You haven't offered any argument other than some pointless 'why can't they have a vote' argument, which seems against a brick wall. They've committed crimes and cost the tax payer shit loads of money prosecuting them and housing them in a prison. They can vote and do normal things like a law abiding citizen of society when they've served their time. Until then they can feel frustrated and fucked off in their cells contributing nothing.
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 1:10, Reply)

the case before the ECHR in 2009 was actually about prisoners not being able to vote in the European Parliament elections, not in UK elections. European election, European rules, makes sense to me.
Anyway the point about people forfeiting their rights when they commit crimes is really rather sinister. I used to believe that myself, back in the day, but it is vitally important that convicted criminals are still human beings and the law still applies to them. The Tories seem to want to make rights conditional on good behaviour generally, and i find that a deeply disturbing direction to head in.
William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!
Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!
Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 8:39, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:06, Reply)

I know this sounds all UKIP and that, but isn't it better that the British people have even the most remote ability to manage their own laws through our parliamentary democracy than it is to be controlled by the utterly undemocratic rule of the ECHR?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:20, Reply)

We signed up to the ECHR long before the HRA was enacted. On human rights, and many other areas of EU law, but that muddies the waters, as Strasbourg administers the European Court of Human Rights independently of the EU, which is primarily based in Brussels (the Council of Europe is not the same as the European Commission), European law has long been the supreme law in the UK. One of the points of enacting the HRA was to limit redress to Strasbourg, as the same laws were now on the UK statute books. Where it gets even more complicated is how does getting rid of the HRA affect our signature on the Convention.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:03, Reply)

the human rights act is our own law or the tories wouldn't be able to repeal it would they?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:42, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 18:07, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 21:50, Reply)

Jesus.
This sort of thing is exactly why we need the EHCR.
Personally i'm all for having a British Bill of Rights, that would remove the need for people to go to Europe if their case could be settled here, but then why pull out of the EHCR unless you want things they won't allow?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:40, Reply)

so here is a link: "UK Cases at the European Court of Human Rights since 1975"
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn05611.pdf
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:52, Reply)

the Tories are sure to back down on one of their flagship policies simply because a handful of online timewasters clicked on a petition.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:58, Reply)

My Aunt is in a care home with severe dementia. I was informed that the staff at the home are unable to prevent her walking out because that would be in breach of the Human Rights Act. They could only stop her if she was Sectioned under the Mental Health Act, but they won't do that because then the NHS would have to pay for her care, instead of her life savings being sucked dry like they are currently to pay for her.
If she did walk out, she would be instantly lost and would die from exposure that night. Luckily, she has never really asked, and when she has we were able to gently suggest it was a bad idea. So in that case, the Human Rights Act could actually kill her.
I don't really have a point, I'm just sayin'.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:05, Reply)

It has the same sort of ring as people who blame Health and Safety (gone mad) as a way of hiding a cop-out.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 22:56, Reply)

sending your tweets to the police for approval == MASSIVE LULS!?
I do hope they like closeups of bell-ends.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:08, Reply)

..if you're trying to break your straight line speed record. Although it does increase the risk of death.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:23, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 15:10, Reply)

Workmate of my wife's spent a month doing this simple because he enjoys doing it. Would tickle him pink if he got over 100 views.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:26, Reply)

Lolled plenty at that. Not enough silly animation like this.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:39, Reply)

Can't help thinking that having lots of drones flying around ski slopes/ski lifts isn't a good thing though.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:17, Reply)

I did frown at the 'easy landing' (0:31) though
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:18, Reply)

Although - give it another 5 years and this quality of drone will be £100; at which point, ill buy one
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:35, Reply)

so that I could walk around London muttering insane paranoid ramblings about the government tracking me..
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:42, Reply)

You just know someone is going to badly hurt or killed by one of these remote control toys and all this will stop due to massive legal costs.
My guess is about 80% of the people that buy these toys have no clue at all about the existing legislation about flying these toys in public spaces, the fines for breaking the law are huge - a guy flew his toy over a nuclear powerstation and is now facing a huge fine ( I think it was 50K) and he had no idea that these laws even existed.
I read companies like Amazon want to provide a service where these toys will deliver goods to you where ever you are, so imagine walking down a busy highstreet with these toys buzzing around trying to land to deliver to someone standing still with their phone out tracking the delivery as people are walking along going about their business. Is the person who is waiting for the thing to land going to have to clear people away and make a space for it to land? I can imagine people getting cut up by plastic rotors as they refuse to clear the area and wait for the person to pick up their goods. It will never work out!
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 15:36, Reply)

Drones are fricking dangerous concepts. Just like flying cars, they won't get any useful mass adoption, because people can't be trusted.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:24, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:05, Reply)

There are some utterly brutal beings on this planet. I'm scared.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:18, Reply)

but really, 'utter cunt murders utter cunt in an utter cunt manner' - who gives a shit?
Plus, given the huge and instant damage an anti-aircraft gun would do to you, isn't it one of the most merciful ways to execute someone?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:36, Reply)

yeah if i'm going to be executed i want them to make sure i'm dead, i don't want sloppy seconds. reminds me of a scene from blackadder - "you might notice a slight ringing in your ears, luckily you'll be nowhere near them"
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:42, Reply)

In spite of the vest clashing with his hat.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 12:40, Reply)

He is clearly a James Bond villain. Having his uncle torn to pieces by dogs, and now this guy quite literally blown into a spray of red flesh, because he fell asleep of something.
It's most probably all real as well, that's what is so dark about North Korea
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:24, Reply)

The reality seems to have been pretty grim:
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11572789/Satellite-images-capture-North-Korea-executions-carried-out-with-anti-aircraft-guns.html
The basic idea of these canons is to intercept and tear apart fast moving metal objects - planes. It's pretty unimaginable the effect on flesh
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:34, Reply)

canon
noun
(Christianity) a Church decree enacted to regulate morals or religious practices
(often plural) a general rule or standard, as of judgment, morals, etc
(often plural) a principle or accepted criterion applied in a branch of learning or art
(Roman Catholic Church) the complete list of the canonized saints
(Roman Catholic Church) the prayer in the Mass in which the Host is consecrated
a list of writings, esp sacred writings, officially recognized as genuine
a piece of music in which an extended melody in one part is imitated successively in one or more other parts See also round (sense 31), catch (sense 33)
a list of the works of an author that are accepted as authentic
(formerly) a size of printer's type equal to 48 point
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:58, Reply)

Despite the horror, it's so unimaginable I'm finding myself sniggering at this.
Edit: Also, Seoul is a snitch. No wonder the North don't get on with them.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:28, Reply)

Still love Margaret Cho's portrayal of him (and his dad) on 30 Rock.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:31, Reply)

Her stand-up/stage work is great - esp. when she rips the piss out of her mum. I just skip over the bits where when she goes on an on about how fabulous the homosexualists are.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 16:16, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:46, Reply)

We got the idea from the Indians (or the Mughals) in the first place though.
Lots of horror during the Mutiny (or "First War of Independence" as the Indians call it). My favourite(?) story is about how the rebellious sepoys murdered lots of men, women and children in a small barracks building in Cawnpore. When the British recaptured the place, they made the mutineers lick a section of the floor clean of blood before they were carted away for execution.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 12:14, Reply)

The Indians allowed a few people to leave the city, and then killed them anyway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Cawnpore#Satichaura_Ghat_massacre
This isn't to say that the behavior of the Brits in colonial India was permanently above reproach...
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 12:21, Reply)

Or cake.
Cake or Death? :)
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:51, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 12:24, Reply)

Monsters turning on monsters.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 12:45, Reply)

..Kim Jong-un is going to kill them all off one by one and then call a snap election.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:34, Reply)

The only evidence of it happening is a satellite image showing anti-aircraft guns in a place where they don't normally put them.
That's not to say he's not a nutjob
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 14:17, Reply)

but wont any one think of the other passengers on the plane?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 15:32, Reply)

i've been wanking over this for a while now and the reviews are almost universally excellent, hoorah! also the new mad max film is receiving similarly brilliant reviews, double hoorah! on the downside, my sarnies don't have any margarine in them, booo
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:12, Reply)

southpark.cc.com/full-episodes/s06e07-the-simpsons-already-did-it
( , Thu 14 May 2015, 13:02, Reply)

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( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:57, Reply)

"Dragging. This method is best accomplished in a desolate place, as it sometimes arouses compassion in unrelated observers. With your dog on its leash, attach the free end to your car's bumper or to the rear undercarriage of your vehicle. Once done, get in your car and begin to drive at high speed. Five minutes will probably do the trick. If not, try and other five. Remember to remove any gravel that may lodge in the dog's flesh afterwards."
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:17, Reply)

...although it did feature in a Chevy Chase movie, if I recall.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:36, Reply)

Attached to Mr Chinnery's bicycle.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 13:48, Reply)

even as misguided satire, it is deeply disturbing.
the 'about us' page. o_0
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 17:02, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:39, Reply)

(Spoiler for the ending of The Long Good Friday, so if you haven't seen that then go watch it now for goodness sake.)
Cracking music too.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:23, Reply)

doing all its facial expressions.
Always made me laugh that.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 14:16, Reply)

Been here many times, it is VERY satisfying to hold down the space key....
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:14, Reply)

It's got graphs and everything.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 9:27, Reply)

Interesting points but....
it was commissioned by the "center for policy studies" a right wing conservative thinktank which was in part started by Thatcher herself.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:13, Reply)

..I don't think comparing a dwelling to a Ferrari is helpful regardless of the argument and although I am an anecdotal sample of one...I couldn't afford a house (where I live) and nor could my wife...I have friends with perfectly good jobs still living with parents or sharing because rent is over half their wage.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:27, Reply)

people need a house to live in. Nobody needs a yacht.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:31, Reply)

they are actually ready made tweets for you to tweet!
Classy.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:32, Reply)

Lost credibility at that point and doesn't do much to regain it.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:37, Reply)

which is surely where the crisis is, otherwise why the "bedroom tax"?
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:40, Reply)

what exactly do they mean by "household"? Surely "there are more houses than households" is practically a tautology, given that "a household" means "a group of people living in a house". Some households own two houses, of course. But if a 30 year old is still living with parents, that's one household instead of two.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:45, Reply)

www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/21/record-numbers-young-adults-living-with-parents
3.3 million young adults still count as part of somebody else's household
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:48, Reply)

Housing is expensive yes, but they don't seem to be addressing the complaint that housing is becoming more expensive as a proportion of income. You just have to look at the mortgages being offered these days. Three times your income used to be considered normal. now it seems to be nearer five.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 10:50, Reply)

( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:00, Reply)

deposits are getting ridiculous. The article is correct in saying that it's not all down to a physical shortage of houses, it's not just supply and demand.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:01, Reply)

and belief in the "housing ladder",
and the vested interests of agents in profit maximisation above all else,
and buy to let meaning that the theoretical households to houses ratio is bullshit,
and virtually no rights or security for tenants increasing demand to buy
etc etc
I could fucking go on
edit: oh yeah and how about successive governments frantically going out of their way to prop up the lower end of the market with give aways
and interest rates not pegged to housing market inflation like they fucking should be
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:06, Reply)

www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/housing-crisis-10-empty-homes-5008151
presumably waiting for better selling prices?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187292/Chancellors-parents-splash-new-10m-home--finding-buyer-old-15million-des-res-street.html
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:12, Reply)

Neither is there an employment shortage.
It's just that all the jobs are in places with few houses, and all the houses are in places with few jobs.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 11:05, Reply)

without saying that it's 'adjusted for inflation'.
In other words, the real price data is way, way steeper.
And uses other graphs matching rent to CPI, not inflation, nor to average incomes, because it's convenient to his bullshit to pretend there's no difference.
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 15:42, Reply)

I just cannot believe that the center for policy studies a right wing conservative thinktank would mislead us for their own political means!
( , Wed 13 May 2015, 19:22, Reply)
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