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This is a link post Hide and Seek.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Interesting to sea lichen growing on a rock in the ocean. Must be an aquarium!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Just made me think of this
youtu.be/KTc3PsW5ghQ
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 6:43, Reply)
This is a link post David Cameron does the Spidey Strut
Having just claimed a majority government and after recently seeing Spider-Man 3, David Cameron decides he has only one thing left to do... Strut!
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:50, Reply)
This is a normal post lol
really well done.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Have to be honest, I've not seen one of these "funny polical joke" things that's actually funny.
*political
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Sticky "t" key?
I notice that is to the left of your keyboard.

Handy (huh huh) link for you:
ehealthforum.com/health/ejaculation-direction-not-straight-t206325.html
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:16, Reply)
This is a normal post "You're projecting a thick fluid through a non-rifled asymmetrical barrel."

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:28, Reply)
This is a normal post Haha,,,,
Handy link for you: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_disability
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 8:34, Reply)
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Have to be honest, I've not seen one of these movies because I am an adult.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:17, Reply)
This is a normal post And a boring one to that.
I assume.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:19, Reply)
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Hahah you are French!! hahah
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:23, Reply)
This is a normal post "Does a curtsey"

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:01, Reply)
This is a normal post Superb

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:59, Reply)
This is a normal post very well done.
not anti-dave enough for me though. he's a total cunt.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Cunts are great!
Total dicks go in, charming babies come out.

"Vile amongst the vile" would be my preferred description.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Douchebag.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:38, Reply)
This is a normal post me?
or dave?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:37, Reply)
This is a normal post Dave

Obviously ;o)
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Soup
herb
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:25, Reply)
This is a normal post Out.
Standing.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Sh
it
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:35, Reply)
This is a normal post On
a stick
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 1:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Hahahahaha
YES
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:11, Reply)
This is a normal post David Cameron has a bum which he wipes
and wipes, but it always remains shitty.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:50, Reply)
This is a normal post
www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGCIGEUB32M
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Fuckin wow

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:45, Reply)
This is a normal post mazing

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 7:39, Reply)
This is a normal post ncredible

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 9:18, Reply)
This is a normal post That is fab

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 18:10, Reply)
This is a link post 3D printed guitar
....look...um....hermmmm

sounds......fucking diabolical
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:27, Reply)
This is a normal post Kill it with fire!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Pshaw!
I expect the Giger estate will be setting their lawyers upon him soon. Fire, by comparison, would be a mercy.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:53, Reply)
This is a normal post Fair enough, as a demonstration of 3D printing
however, there's a reason electric guitars are made from dense wood. The resonance sounds awful in plastic (didn't they learn this in the 80's?) as it comes across like a constipated wasp in an empty water bottle. You can put whatever pickups you like in it, it will sound shit, no matter how it looks. Resonance effectively details how the strings vibrate in the guitar's body, so anything other than wood (eg: graphite, hello again the 80's) tends to sound tinny and stupid, much like the above example. Not h8ting, educ8ing! ;)
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:21, Reply)
This is a normal post It's out of fucking tune an' all

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 2:12, Reply)
This is a link post This is not good for the Ginger overlord
Usvsth3m and ampp3d facing the axe.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:24, Reply)
This is a normal post That's a shame
though i've never really understood the point of usvsth3m; reporting on who's screwed up on twitter or facebook seems just like gossip to be honest. Sorry for the team though
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:28, Reply)
This is a normal post It's what's popular though
people love it.
Crappy for Rob *hugs*
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:32, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm guessing it was for the cashmoney

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 7:40, Reply)
This is a normal post :( Sad for them.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:30, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't like to hear of anyone being made redundant,
but it was really not very good. I think it was aimed at the very young, probably the brief, and it patronised them. I hope they enjoy greater success elsewhere.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:35, Reply)
This is a normal post Probably freeing up the funds to buy the cartoon Putin thing...

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:48, Reply)
This is a normal post And it was only last year that rob and co. got a shiny award for their efforts
British Media Award winners 2014

Launch of the Year

Winner: UsVsTh3m from Trinity Mirror

The judges praised the impact of a very small team on a large company, in particular the way they have managed to attract new audiences in an agile way. Creating a start up department that does well in an established organisation isn't easy, and UsVsTh3m have done the job exceedingly well. They have built a compelling business case for a new market of monetised digital experiments within a traditional publisher.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:04, Reply)
This is a normal post Well that's a bit shit :(

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:14, Reply)
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You just wont believe what happens next...
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:24, Reply)
This is a normal post I echo the comments that redundancy is always shit
and hope Rob will get picked up soon but have to add that the writing was on the wall for a while. Even before it got pulled into the main mirror website Usvsth3m had lost it's focus. What started out as a site for Internet laughs (lols I believe the kids call it) with a left leaning edge, turned into a ranty stream of political and politically correct articles. Gone were the games and fun stuff, in came articles about how certain toilet signs are homophobic. There was also a weird obsession with Taylor Swift. Some of the articles were good, amusing and thought provoking but most were so far from the original site it became tedious.

From what I've read I think the editorial policy was shifted and Rob sidelined.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:06, Reply)
This is a normal post It wasn't really aimed at me
but I suspect that was about as good an attempt as they could have hoped to make at that demographic.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Time for a B3ta revamp?

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:16, Reply)
This is a normal post hahaha hahaha

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:36, Reply)
This is a normal post This place is going to suffer
personally I wouldn't mind a few ads if it helps keep pay for the server hamsters. Targeted cookie based ad banners wouldn't bother me. Ok most of the ads will be for monkey and midget porn but fuck it, if it keeps this place going. I hate to think what the ads would be for your average /talk b3tan.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Package holidays in Praia da Luz.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:53, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm cool with ads
I hope B3ta doesn't suffer
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:22, Reply)
This is a normal post Yep agree with that

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post boo!
a comment on the gruaniad said "Great concepts, rubbish names. Circa 2005 internet slang" i hope that's not what it was that killed it. i was seeing usvth3m more and more on facebook too.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:51, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not entirely sure this is the time or place, but this comment over their struck a chord:
"I found UsVsTh3m when Rob Manuel was heavily promoting it through the B3ta newsletter. Not bad overall, nice mix of lists, quizzes, and games. A good timewaster, with some stuff worth sharing. Unfortunately, the "Us" content gradually moved away from the good things (like the games - these were the USP of the site) towards hand-wringing-social-justice-warrior-claptap ("this portrayal of a woman in it is NOT OK" sort of thing), and repetitive, tedious lists ("here's yet another ten reasons why Ukip are racist" or "five ways the Tories will kill the poor"). Basically, it turned into a crap Buzzfeed written by 20 year-olds who rely too much on safe spaces and trigger warnings. Shame how it turned out."

In part because it feels that's where and why it lost it's lustre for your average bod who just want's a moment spared from work; though to be honest the change sounds more like something from above dictating change that way, especially after they were moved to the mirror site.

Rob has always seemed like one of the lads with a natural leaning to the left throughout the years i've seen him on b3ta, but he's never come across as someone who was up to shoving his political ethos to much down your gob, which is where this seems to have gone.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 23:51, Reply)
This is a normal post Not so sure,
this isn't a great example, but I felt it revealed him to be a rather blind "Islam is 'A' OK and anyone who says otherwise is an evil racist." I'm not talking about the link, but the thread. You are in it, and seem to be on board with Rob.
www.b3ta.com/links/FBI_issue_25_new_flyers_to_warn_against_TEHRISTS
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 1:32, Reply)
This is a normal post You're right, not a great example

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 9:32, Reply)
This is a normal post bit harsh

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 23:43, Reply)
This is a link post 38 degrees petition to stop Tories abolishing Human Rights Act
114k of 200k signatures.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:55, Reply)
This is a normal post A piss in the wind
More likely there'll be huge legal roadblocks preventing it happening. Probably waste a few millions drafting it up. Gives Gove something to do I suppose. As an English Lit graduate he's more than qualified to oversee it.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:02, Reply)
This is a normal post hopefully a massive public outcry will shit up enough Tory MPs into rebelling

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:10, Reply)
This is a normal post More likely aliens will emerge from Cameron's Arse
than they take a blind bit of notice of a petition.
If people chased Tories in marginal seats with large flaming torches and pitchforks, that might work.
This bunch aren't nicknamed the Tory Taliban for nothing.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:17, Reply)
This is a normal post There won't be one
People who voted them in only care about home ownership.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:18, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
You can only exert pressure if there's a weak spot. They have a majority, they will just push all the nasty stuff as fast as they can. They have 5 years to do as much damage as they can, faster they do it, the less chance they can be stopped.

They don't give a flying fuck about petitions
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:51, Reply)
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I think 38degress is going to be pretty busy for the next 5 years...
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:17, Reply)
This is a normal post True that!

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 0:07, Reply)
This is a normal post i always wonder if petitions like this actually make a difference,
but as i see it there is no harm in trying.
That link, though, won't let people residing outside the UK sign.
this one though, through change.org shared by a facebook fiend this morning, does accept outside UK addresses:

www.change.org/p/david-cameron-mp-we-call-on-the-government-and-the-prime-minister-to-provide-a-national-referendum-on-the-planned-abolition-of-the-human-rights-act?recruiter=73997710&utm_source
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:18, Reply)
This is a normal post Let's have a look at this...
Right to life
- I think that's fairly well covered in existing UK legislation

Freedom from torture and inhuman or degrading treatment
- check

Right to liberty and security
- yep, though this is open to as many interpretations as you like

Freedom from slavery and forced labour
- uh-huh

Right to a fair trial
- I thought it was the Daily Mail and their readers who were most likely to say that the UK justice system is fucked

No punishment without law
- Magna Carta, bitch

Respect for your private and family life, home and correspondence
- You might have a point with regards to a snooper's charter, but that's democracy for you. Suck it up, not enough people cared to vote in the other lot

Freedom of thought, belief and religion
- See below

Freedom of expression
- Unless it's to express the opinion that teh Geyz should be stoned to death

Protection from discrimination in respect of these rights and freedoms
- Again, we were among the pioneers of this. We're not fucking Serbia, are we?

Right to education
- Remind me where Malala pitched up after she got shot

Right to participate in free elections
- And not to act all butthurt when they don't deliver the government YOU want
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:24, Reply)
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"Right to a fair trial
- I thought it was the Daily Mail and their readers who were most likely to say that the UK justice system is fucked"


...but the justice system in this country is fucked. Like really. Legal aid? might as well not exist now amongst many other loverly things. Never mind eh, we've got Gove in charge now /facepalm
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:41, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't see how the ECHR helps the poor bastards who can't get access to a decent lawyer
Easier to tell someone "take it to Strasbourg" than actually to do it.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:42, Reply)
This is a normal post
no, neither do I, was just picking up on one of your points
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:45, Reply)
This is a normal post ^so much this.
I'm baffled by the hysteria and scare mongering surrounding this. I think stupid people think just because it's called the Human Rights Act it is automatically a good thing.
As far as I can work out the aim of this is twofold:
1) to give us back the ability to deport dangerous convicted criminals.
2) to deny people in prison the vote, which is part and parcel of the penalty of a custodial sentence.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm a bit puzzled by the reactions i've seen all day to this as well
though I shouldn't be surprised given the hysteria we had during the election, and in general at the moment
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:24, Reply)
This is a normal post How's about this?
The proposal states that the bill should "limit the use of human rights laws to the most serious cases. [...] There will be a threshold below which Convention rights will not be engaged, ensuring UK courts strike out trivial cases."

That is, the government will decide when you can exercise your human rights.

Speaking of hysteria and scare-mongering, by the way, I think that's quite an apt description of the pro-BBR stance: www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/bella-sankey/human-rights-act-british-bill-of-rights_b_7257376.html.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:26, Reply)
This is a normal post No.
"ensuring UK courts strike out trivial cases." The judiciary is not the government.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:33, Reply)
This is a normal post Okay, the government will put the Bill of Rights in place
which will allow the judiciary to decide when you can exercise your human rights. How is that any better? And how will the threshold be set?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, that's how all laws work.
The government puts them in place via statute, and the the judiciary, independently of the government, interprets and applies them. How is any legal threshold ever set? Define the burden of proof thresholds 'beyond all reasonable doubt' and 'on the balance of probabilities'. They're effectively just subjective abstracts, often, but not always, that subjectivity is moderated by a jury in an attempt at objectivity, but they work pretty well nevertheless.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:08, Reply)
This is a normal post The point I'm making is that
having a system in which individuals (or small groups of individuals) decide when you can even access your basic human rights is more open to abuse than a system in which you can always access them.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:12, Reply)
This is a normal post It's not about access.
It's about application of the law. The law has always been made and administered by a small group of individuals. What exactly do you mean "access"? It's about what you can and cannot expect the law to allow you to do. I've never "accessed" my human rights, mainly because I've never committed a serious crime, and the only state bullying I've experienced has been lawful (HMRC) or fairly inconsequential, but infuriating (old bill). I resent the tax man more than old bill.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:26, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm very happy you haven't been on the end of much state bullying!
Having an in-state body deciding whether state bullying has occurred is not as good an idea as having an external body decide. Do you disagree with that?

And I realise (acronyms alert!) replacing the HRA with a BBR will not remove us from the ECHR, but as you say yourself below it will bring our signature into question.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:39, Reply)
This is a normal post I hope you are constantly bullied by the state.
I kid, I kid. There is a very good separation between state (i.e. government of the day) and judiciary. You may have noticed that governments constantly (Labour and Tory) take issue with the judiciary. The whole legal aid thing has meant that currently lawyers aren't keen on the the Tories, and not without good reason. But always retain a healthy scepticism when people who earn their bread from the tax payers start whinging about potential loss of income or job security. I had loads of shit teachers as a kid. How often do you hear of a teacher being sacked for being shit? Anyway, I'm going to bed now. Don't worry about the HRA, we're not going to see a fascististic police state appear in the next five years.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 23:43, Reply)
This is a normal post What is the benefit in denying prisoners the vote?
Or put it another way: What is the harm in allowing it?

I've yet to see a coherent argument for this particular policy, let alone one that justifies throwing out the entire Human Rights Act.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:31, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't see any benefit/harm.
I think it is part of the punishment. It is frankly nothing in comparison to being literally incarcerated. It's mainly a symbolic withdrawal of a freedom. On a more practical and pragmatic level, it would massively distort a constituency's size and make up, and people forced into a particular prison can rarely claim to have to been part of the community or have any connection to the constituency in which their prison lies. Why should they therefore have a say in who represents that constituency?

The problem with the HRA, is you can't just throw bits of it out. Ideally we wouldn't throw the entire thing out, just tweak it. But that isn't really how statutes work: it's all or nothing, hence the idea or replacing it with a Bill of Rights.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:47, Reply)
This is a normal post The distortion can easily be rectified though
by the use of a postal ballot in the prisoner's home constituency. Yes it's more expensive, but in comparison to the cost of locking someone up in the first place it's small beer.

As for it being a part of the punishment, that ultimately boils down to a "We do it like this because we've always done it like this" argument. It's not really an argument based on any reasoning or principle, merely an unwillingness to change. It's not like punishments haven't changed over the years - we used to lock people up in stocks after all.

If the punishment aspect of the disenfranchisement is small in comparison to the deprivation of liberty (and let's face it, it is), then I fail to see why we don't just accept the decision of the European Court of Human Rights and change the punishment accordingly.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:07, Reply)
This is a normal post Many prisoners don't have homes.
How do you therefore define their home constituency? Maybe we should just stop locking people up just because we always have done.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 20:32, Reply)
This is a normal post This isn't really a problem though
Persons of No Fixed Abode already have a procedure to enrol on the Electoral Register. There's no reason to change that.

As for your final sentence, maybe so and I'd support that. There's plenty of evidence that suggests that locking people up is counterproductive with regard to preventing reoffending. However that's unlikely to be acted upon in the near future due to such ideas being deemed politically unpalateable.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 23:34, Reply)
This is a normal post OK mate.
I'll send Mark Bridger and Ian Huntley round to babysit your daughters next time you fancy a curry. Or maybe just fuck those full life tariffs and move them into the bail hostel in your neighbourhood, rather than their "home constituencies". As long as your delusional ideologies remain intact, that's the main thing. Never mind realities, practicalities and the dark side of human nature. Enjoy your dopiaza.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 23:52, Reply)
This is a normal post Are those two locked up for punishment or public protection?
A weak Straw Man argument coupled with an Ad Hominem. I think this conversation has reached its conclusion.
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 0:24, Reply)
This is a normal post Niether are in a mental hospital prison, therefore they're in there for punishment.
They will get out if they live long enough. Votes for Broadmoor! is there always a clear dichotomy between protection of the public and punishment? Is rehabilitation always possible? Is the world as black and white as your ideologies?
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 1:44, Reply)
This is a normal post Why on earth are you advocating their rights so hard though?
Surely being banged up for crimes looses some rights to contribute to society in an election.

You haven't offered any argument other than some pointless 'why can't they have a vote' argument, which seems against a brick wall. They've committed crimes and cost the tax payer shit loads of money prosecuting them and housing them in a prison. They can vote and do normal things like a law abiding citizen of society when they've served their time. Until then they can feel frustrated and fucked off in their cells contributing nothing.
(, Thu 14 May 2015, 1:10, Reply)
This is a normal post here's a thing,
the case before the ECHR in 2009 was actually about prisoners not being able to vote in the European Parliament elections, not in UK elections. European election, European rules, makes sense to me.

Anyway the point about people forfeiting their rights when they commit crimes is really rather sinister. I used to believe that myself, back in the day, but it is vitally important that convicted criminals are still human beings and the law still applies to them. The Tories seem to want to make rights conditional on good behaviour generally, and i find that a deeply disturbing direction to head in.



William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

William Roper: Yes, I'd cut down every law in England to do that!

Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 8:39, Reply)
This is a normal post even if that makes them more likely to do it again?

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 16:20, Reply)
This is a normal post they'd probably vote Labour

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:40, Reply)
This is a normal post if all the rights are covered already in extant law and we'd be fine without it why do cases got to the ECHR?

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Because it's there, and because they can
I know this sounds all UKIP and that, but isn't it better that the British people have even the most remote ability to manage their own laws through our parliamentary democracy than it is to be controlled by the utterly undemocratic rule of the ECHR?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:20, Reply)
This is a normal post Not really true.
We signed up to the ECHR long before the HRA was enacted. On human rights, and many other areas of EU law, but that muddies the waters, as Strasbourg administers the European Court of Human Rights independently of the EU, which is primarily based in Brussels (the Council of Europe is not the same as the European Commission), European law has long been the supreme law in the UK. One of the points of enacting the HRA was to limit redress to Strasbourg, as the same laws were now on the UK statute books. Where it gets even more complicated is how does getting rid of the HRA affect our signature on the Convention.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:03, Reply)
This is a normal post manage our own laws?
the human rights act is our own law or the tories wouldn't be able to repeal it would they?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:42, Reply)
This is a normal post also if you trust the tories to not fuck you over first chance they get you're either rich or thick.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:07, Reply)
This is a normal post fucking hell, such a narrow view of the electorate.... that's like saying you like jelly babies or you don't.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 21:50, Reply)
This is a normal post "that's democracy for you. Suck it up"
Jesus.

This sort of thing is exactly why we need the EHCR.

Personally i'm all for having a British Bill of Rights, that would remove the need for people to go to Europe if their case could be settled here, but then why pull out of the EHCR unless you want things they won't allow?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:40, Reply)
This is a normal post of course this is /links
so here is a link: "UK Cases at the European Court of Human Rights since 1975"
www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/sn05611.pdf
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:52, Reply)
This is a normal post I for one am certain that after 5 years in coalition and having pulled a miracle majority out of the bag...
the Tories are sure to back down on one of their flagship policies simply because a handful of online timewasters clicked on a petition.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Here is an interesting bit to add into the mix.
My Aunt is in a care home with severe dementia. I was informed that the staff at the home are unable to prevent her walking out because that would be in breach of the Human Rights Act. They could only stop her if she was Sectioned under the Mental Health Act, but they won't do that because then the NHS would have to pay for her care, instead of her life savings being sucked dry like they are currently to pay for her.

If she did walk out, she would be instantly lost and would die from exposure that night. Luckily, she has never really asked, and when she has we were able to gently suggest it was a bad idea. So in that case, the Human Rights Act could actually kill her.

I don't really have a point, I'm just sayin'.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Sounds like a load of shite to me.
It has the same sort of ring as people who blame Health and Safety (gone mad) as a way of hiding a cop-out.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 22:56, Reply)
This is a normal post Anyone else think
sending your tweets to the police for approval == MASSIVE LULS!?

I do hope they like closeups of bell-ends.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:08, Reply)
This is a normal post They're not actually signatures, are they?
Just clicks.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:50, Reply)
This is a link post Do not over-inflate your tyre.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:23, Reply)
This is a normal post is this snuff?
this is snuff.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:39, Reply)
This is a normal post ^
hope i didnt just watch someone die
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Do over inflate your tyre
..if you're trying to break your straight line speed record. Although it does increase the risk of death.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:23, Reply)
This is a normal post I like the way it knocked him down then landed on his bollocks!

(, Thu 14 May 2015, 11:19, Reply)
This is a link post have some carly simon
Why?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:35, Reply)
This is a normal post This works for me on a sunny Wednesday afternoon

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:52, Reply)
This is a normal post sunny?
not in glasgow
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:04, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm sorry I cannot help you with that

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:14, Reply)
This is a normal post So good!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:57, Reply)
This is a normal post

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This is a normal post you lost weight Tabs

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:08, Reply)
This is a normal post waxed my gunt too

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:29, Reply)
This is a normal post looking good mate
*grooms*
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:40, Reply)
This is a normal post you're so vain

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:41, Reply)
This is a normal post Such a terrible internet bully

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Bernard Edwards is Magic, I've tried for decades and am still no nearer to figuring out what he's doing.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:10, Reply)
This is a link post Star Wars Dance Party
Workmate of my wife's spent a month doing this simple because he enjoys doing it. Would tickle him pink if he got over 100 views.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:26, Reply)
This is a normal post Is his name really Darren Hutt?

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:39, Reply)
This is a normal post That did cross my mind
Well what's left of my mind
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes it is.
Coincidence? Fate?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:55, Reply)
This is a normal post Fucking ace.
Lolled plenty at that. Not enough silly animation like this.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:39, Reply)
This is a normal post best trailer yet for the new shart wars

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:00, Reply)
This is a link post Lily Camera
described as throw-and-shoot
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:08, Reply)
This is a normal post Lovely looking bit of kit.
Can't help thinking that having lots of drones flying around ski slopes/ski lifts isn't a good thing though.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:17, Reply)
This is a normal post That looks groovy
I did frown at the 'easy landing' (0:31) though
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:18, Reply)
This is a normal post $519

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:28, Reply)
This is a normal post and no collision avoidance
Although - give it another 5 years and this quality of drone will be £100; at which point, ill buy one
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:35, Reply)
This is a normal post by then it may be much smaller
and with endoscopic capabilities
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:39, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm dropping my trousers now in anticipation

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:44, Reply)
This is a normal post I'd like to get one of them
so that I could walk around London muttering insane paranoid ramblings about the government tracking me..
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:42, Reply)
This is a normal post
You just know someone is going to badly hurt or killed by one of these remote control toys and all this will stop due to massive legal costs.
My guess is about 80% of the people that buy these toys have no clue at all about the existing legislation about flying these toys in public spaces, the fines for breaking the law are huge - a guy flew his toy over a nuclear powerstation and is now facing a huge fine ( I think it was 50K) and he had no idea that these laws even existed.
I read companies like Amazon want to provide a service where these toys will deliver goods to you where ever you are, so imagine walking down a busy highstreet with these toys buzzing around trying to land to deliver to someone standing still with their phone out tracking the delivery as people are walking along going about their business. Is the person who is waiting for the thing to land going to have to clear people away and make a space for it to land? I can imagine people getting cut up by plastic rotors as they refuse to clear the area and wait for the person to pick up their goods. It will never work out!
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:36, Reply)
This is a normal post ...parklife!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:03, Reply)
This is a normal post I completely agree
Drones are fricking dangerous concepts. Just like flying cars, they won't get any useful mass adoption, because people can't be trusted.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:24, Reply)
This is a normal post
Sorry but unless it has Hellfire missiles it is called a toy ;)
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:08, Reply)
This is a normal post You'd have to be damn sure the batteries were charged before lobbing it off a bridge

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Great for jumping from the bridge suicide cam.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:56, Reply)
This is a link post Kim Jong Un executes Defense Chief with anti-aircraft gun.
executes vapourises

There are some utterly brutal beings on this planet. I'm scared.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:18, Reply)
This is a normal post should have shot him out of a cannon first

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:19, Reply)
This is a normal post dressed as Orville would have been entertaining also
but really, 'utter cunt murders utter cunt in an utter cunt manner' - who gives a shit?

Plus, given the huge and instant damage an anti-aircraft gun would do to you, isn't it one of the most merciful ways to execute someone?
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This is a normal post haha yeah, i wish i could fry
yeah if i'm going to be executed i want them to make sure i'm dead, i don't want sloppy seconds. reminds me of a scene from blackadder - "you might notice a slight ringing in your ears, luckily you'll be nowhere near them"
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:42, Reply)
This is a normal post Yeah.
Dignitas are looking into it as we speak.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:48, Reply)
This is a normal post I hear bomb vests are pretty quick too

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:10, Reply)
This is a normal post It's what Terry Pratchett chose in the end.
In spite of the vest clashing with his hat.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:40, Reply)
This is a normal post I was just reading this
He is clearly a James Bond villain. Having his uncle torn to pieces by dogs, and now this guy quite literally blown into a spray of red flesh, because he fell asleep of something.

It's most probably all real as well, that's what is so dark about North Korea
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:24, Reply)
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Sales of amphetimines must be soaring
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:51, Reply)
This is a normal post I'm not surprised
The reality seems to have been pretty grim:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11572789/Satellite-images-capture-North-Korea-executions-carried-out-with-anti-aircraft-guns.html

The basic idea of these canons is to intercept and tear apart fast moving metal objects - planes. It's pretty unimaginable the effect on flesh
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:34, Reply)
This is a normal post
canon

noun

(Christianity) a Church decree enacted to regulate morals or religious practices
(often plural) a general rule or standard, as of judgment, morals, etc
(often plural) a principle or accepted criterion applied in a branch of learning or art
(Roman Catholic Church) the complete list of the canonized saints
(Roman Catholic Church) the prayer in the Mass in which the Host is consecrated
a list of writings, esp sacred writings, officially recognized as genuine
a piece of music in which an extended melody in one part is imitated successively in one or more other parts See also round (sense 31), catch (sense 33)
a list of the works of an author that are accepted as authentic
(formerly) a size of printer's type equal to 48 point
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Blimey.
Despite the horror, it's so unimaginable I'm finding myself sniggering at this.

Edit: Also, Seoul is a snitch. No wonder the North don't get on with them.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:28, Reply)
This is a normal post He also tried to poison his aunt, apparently.
Still love Margaret Cho's portrayal of him (and his dad) on 30 Rock.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Ah, the lovely Margaret Cho...
Her stand-up/stage work is great - esp. when she rips the piss out of her mum. I just skip over the bits where when she goes on an on about how fabulous the homosexualists are.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 16:16, Reply)
This is a normal post didn't the British tie Indians to cannons during the Indian Rebellion

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:46, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes. Yes we did.
We got the idea from the Indians (or the Mughals) in the first place though.

Lots of horror during the Mutiny (or "First War of Independence" as the Indians call it). My favourite(?) story is about how the rebellious sepoys murdered lots of men, women and children in a small barracks building in Cawnpore. When the British recaptured the place, they made the mutineers lick a section of the floor clean of blood before they were carted away for execution.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:14, Reply)
This is a normal post The siege of Cawnpore was a shitty episode in history.
The Indians allowed a few people to leave the city, and then killed them anyway. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Cawnpore#Satichaura_Ghat_massacre
This isn't to say that the behavior of the Brits in colonial India was permanently above reproach...
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:21, Reply)
This is a normal post It's the only way they'll learn.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:21, Reply)
This is a normal post Good to see the old British traditions being kept alive.
Or not
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:49, Reply)
This is a normal post Pretty quick way to go, death by .22 could be a bit slower
Or cake.
Cake or Death? :)
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:51, Reply)
This is a normal post it's the only way to make sure his winged soul doesn't fly off

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:01, Reply)
This is a normal post I hope he delivers a quippy one liner just before sentences are passed like all good villains should.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:24, Reply)
This is a normal post "Unlike you, Mr Un, I'm not afraid
of a little flak"
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Ak Ak!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:59, Reply)
This is a normal post Superb!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:59, Reply)
This is a normal post hahahaha i can see the raised eyebrow!

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This is a normal post Woot!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:55, Reply)
This is a normal post I'ld feel a bit more sympathy if he wasnt part of a totalitarian rule responsible countless deaths
Monsters turning on monsters.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Maybe that is the idea...
..Kim Jong-un is going to kill them all off one by one and then call a snap election.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:34, Reply)
This is a normal post Could be some propaganda from the south.
The only evidence of it happening is a satellite image showing anti-aircraft guns in a place where they don't normally put them.

That's not to say he's not a nutjob
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:17, Reply)
This is a normal post its all very well being killed and executed by an anti aircraft gun just for one man
but wont any one think of the other passengers on the plane?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:32, Reply)
This is a link post The Witcher 3 looks very good, yay!
i've been wanking over this for a while now and the reviews are almost universally excellent, hoorah! also the new mad max film is receiving similarly brilliant reviews, double hoorah! on the downside, my sarnies don't have any margarine in them, booo
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:12, Reply)
This is a normal post margerine?
YUCK
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:24, Reply)
This is a normal post ^this
what the fuck is wrong with you?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:58, Reply)
This is a normal post Yes
Butter is better for you anyhow.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:57, Reply)
This is a normal post I don't think you can get margarine these days.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:10, Reply)
This is a normal post Nicely illustrates the difference between these two shows.

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 12:09, Reply)
This is a normal post ^

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This is a link post Cook Your Pet dot com
Marketing Dog and Cat Meat

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Becoming a CookYourPet meat distributor, please use our contact us page.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:57, Reply)
This is a normal post Euthanasia Techniques is a cheery read

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:15, Reply)
This is a normal post I know WTF is all I can say, is it a joke?
"Dragging. This method is best accomplished in a desolate place, as it sometimes arouses compassion in unrelated observers. With your dog on its leash, attach the free end to your car's bumper or to the rear undercarriage of your vehicle. Once done, get in your car and begin to drive at high speed. Five minutes will probably do the trick. If not, try and other five. Remember to remove any gravel that may lodge in the dog's flesh afterwards."
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This is a normal post
Pretty dark stuff.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:50, Reply)
This is a normal post Very...
...although it did feature in a Chevy Chase movie, if I recall.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:36, Reply)
This is a normal post And the opening credits of the League of Gentlemen
Attached to Mr Chinnery's bicycle.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 13:48, Reply)
This is a normal post that can't be real
even as misguided satire, it is deeply disturbing.
the 'about us' page. o_0
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 17:02, Reply)
This is a normal post "Or that when you give your dog or cat to a pet cemetery, the body is often shipped to China to be made into a hood ornament for some wealthy terrorist? "

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:39, Reply)
This is a link post For your Wednesday morning, a superlative piece of acting by Bob Hoskins
(Spoiler for the ending of The Long Good Friday, so if you haven't seen that then go watch it now for goodness sake.)

Cracking music too.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:23, Reply)
This is a normal post Great film
You've reminded me I haven't watched it for ages.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:29, Reply)
This is a normal post 'Arold Shaaand!
Flippin' brilliant film.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:39, Reply)
This is a normal post Someone once wrote this scene was like seeing the 1976 King Kong model
doing all its facial expressions.
Always made me laugh that.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 14:16, Reply)
This is a link post Slap Michael Gove

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post I love this
Been here many times, it is VERY satisfying to hold down the space key....
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:14, Reply)
This is a normal post Scab!

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:18, Reply)
This is a link post There is not and never has been a housing crisis
It's got graphs and everything.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 9:27, Reply)
This is a normal post
Interesting points but....

it was commissioned by the "center for policy studies" a right wing conservative thinktank which was in part started by Thatcher herself.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:13, Reply)
This is a normal post Well, you can prove anything with facts can't you...
..I don't think comparing a dwelling to a Ferrari is helpful regardless of the argument and although I am an anecdotal sample of one...I couldn't afford a house (where I live) and nor could my wife...I have friends with perfectly good jobs still living with parents or sharing because rent is over half their wage.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:27, Reply)
This is a normal post The yacht comment is just idiotic,
people need a house to live in. Nobody needs a yacht.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:31, Reply)
This is a normal post Oh...
they are actually ready made tweets for you to tweet!

Classy.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:32, Reply)
This is a normal post Exactly.
Lost credibility at that point and doesn't do much to regain it.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:37, Reply)
This is a normal post doesn't even mention council/social housing,
which is surely where the crisis is, otherwise why the "bedroom tax"?
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:40, Reply)
This is a normal post also
what exactly do they mean by "household"? Surely "there are more houses than households" is practically a tautology, given that "a household" means "a group of people living in a house". Some households own two houses, of course. But if a 30 year old is still living with parents, that's one household instead of two.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:45, Reply)
This is a normal post FACTS:
www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/jan/21/record-numbers-young-adults-living-with-parents

3.3 million young adults still count as part of somebody else's household
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:48, Reply)
This is a normal post Is this Tabs basement?

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:13, Reply)
This is a normal post total garbage

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:45, Reply)
This is a normal post Sorry, but that seems bullshit to me
Housing is expensive yes, but they don't seem to be addressing the complaint that housing is becoming more expensive as a proportion of income. You just have to look at the mortgages being offered these days. Three times your income used to be considered normal. now it seems to be nearer five.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 10:50, Reply)
This is a normal post In the early 80's (outside London) 2x salary was considered 'a stretch' by most lenders

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:00, Reply)
This is a normal post mortgage conditions became much more strict after the crash,
deposits are getting ridiculous. The article is correct in saying that it's not all down to a physical shortage of houses, it's not just supply and demand.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:01, Reply)
This is a normal post how about compounded greed, treating houses like any other material good,
and belief in the "housing ladder",
and the vested interests of agents in profit maximisation above all else,
and buy to let meaning that the theoretical households to houses ratio is bullshit,
and virtually no rights or security for tenants increasing demand to buy
etc etc
I could fucking go on

edit: oh yeah and how about successive governments frantically going out of their way to prop up the lower end of the market with give aways

and interest rates not pegged to housing market inflation like they fucking should be
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Houses being intentionally kept empty and off the market,
www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/housing-crisis-10-empty-homes-5008151
presumably waiting for better selling prices?
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2187292/Chancellors-parents-splash-new-10m-home--finding-buyer-old-15million-des-res-street.html
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:12, Reply)
This is a normal post There isn't really a housing shortage.
Neither is there an employment shortage.

It's just that all the jobs are in places with few houses, and all the houses are in places with few jobs.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 11:05, Reply)
This is a normal post Damn right

(, Wed 13 May 2015, 18:06, Reply)
This is a normal post Bullshitter uses house price graph that's been adjusted for inflation
without saying that it's 'adjusted for inflation'.
In other words, the real price data is way, way steeper.

And uses other graphs matching rent to CPI, not inflation, nor to average incomes, because it's convenient to his bullshit to pretend there's no difference.
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 15:42, Reply)
This is a normal post
I just cannot believe that the center for policy studies a right wing conservative thinktank would mislead us for their own political means!
(, Wed 13 May 2015, 19:22, Reply)

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