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# Challenge Vote ahoy!
This week's challenge vote is afoot. The suggestions are:

Tombstones that people deserve - like this: www.b3ta.com/board/10480112
Why did the chicken cross the road?
Two word challenge: David Cameron
One word challenge: Owls

And he's the vital vote:

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# vote cast
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# Also
owls would leave the door open for a magnificent repost of the mechanical owl from bladerunner.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 19:01, archived)
# Alt: combine all four into one image
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:21, archived)
# *sigh*
shoot me now.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:21, archived)
# Why did Cameron's tombstone cross the owl?
Eh?

Eh?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:22, archived)
# Star Wars
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:24, archived)
# Almost right!

The answer was: 'film posters of star wars'
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:25, archived)
#
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:23, archived)
# Woo
Tombstones: TOAR!
Why did the chicken cross the road? Gets my vote (no I don't know why)
David Cameron: NO!
Owls: could be fun
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:38, archived)
# Owls
because one word challenges are often excellent (see giraffs)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:39, archived)
#
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# My only front page was an entry into the giraffe challenge.
I was about 4 hours late though so thought "fuck it" and entered it into the next challenge instead. Which it won. That's how good giraffes are.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:55, archived)
# I also got a FP with a giraffe :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 19:14, archived)
# Me too!..HA HA!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 20:19, archived)
[challenge entry]
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#

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#
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# shouldn't that be: T'woo!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 19:45, archived)
# Hello readers
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:57, archived)
# Oh, it's another 'comedy' account
Unless, of course, you are really Mr. Rupert Murdoch. In which case I would also ask you to go away.

-xxx-
mediocre
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:27, archived)
# ^This
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#
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# THIS REALLY HAPPENED
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:10, archived)
# Judging by their faces, I'd say someone let one go.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:13, archived)
#
Judging by their faces Feaces
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:26, archived)
# haha
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:00, archived)
# Hahaha aces..... I like her...... every man should have his own personal ninja..!!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:15, archived)
# Finally, someone captures the true essence of the event!
Brilliant.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:23, archived)
# I couldn't see what my wife was doing.
I didn't know.
I won't resign over it.
Why wasn't I told what she was doing?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:30, archived)
# usernamelols :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:23, archived)
# hahaha
this is great!
Love the face expressions.

Unexpected ninja!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:34, archived)
# ha ha brill
this should be the japanese TV re-enactment they usually have
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:43, archived)
# X-23 to the rescue.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:29, archived)
# :D
Shitfaced
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:48, archived)
# ahem.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:07, archived)
# this makes me hard
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:11, archived)
# Thought it might :-)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:12, archived)
# hahaha!
her face is saying "I'm a bit bored... but I'm getting to quite like it"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:11, archived)
# and there's the added frisson of her looking like the internet cunt
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:14, archived)
# She's out in the cold now leaving Cameron in the bedroom
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:14, archived)
# I may need this RISSED
Because I havn't been up to date on this.

I presume it involved the ghost of Marilyn Monroe though
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:15, archived)
[challenge entry] Media Buying 101
Media Buying 101 - Looking for information about affiliate marketing. This is your greatest lucky day. [url=http://rogue.profit-smart.com] Media Buying Handbook [/url]
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:29, archived)
# Hahahahahaha
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:47, archived)
# LOL
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:50, archived)
# Looks like a good read...
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:53, archived)
# Goatse Marketing, shirley?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:00, archived)
# They'd sold out of that one and it was also twice the price...!!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:04, archived)
# i said i wanted nike's, you utter bastard!
come back when you have my nike's.

now fuck off.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:56, archived)
# Where's the goddamned phentermine?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:09, archived)
# here, I have this instead:
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:10, archived)
# THIS IS MY GREATEST LUCKY DAY!
101 108
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:59, archived)
# yeh horray for you!!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:01, archived)
# HTMLoLs
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#
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#
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# =)))
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# :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:21, archived)
# You're doing it wrong. This sort of thing goes in a NEW thread.
What the hell has happend to the class of spammers, these days?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:21, archived)
# Media Buying 101
Would this book help me revamp my bid for BSkyB?
Please send me a copy under plain cover.
I will pay once you have signed this confidentiality agreement.

Many Thanks
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:23, archived)
# Hehe
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:26, archived)
# Man, this makes me hard!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:25, archived)
# I'd like to know more
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:20, archived)
# guess what?
You're a cunt!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:24, archived)
# No it isn't, you insensitive bastard.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:29, archived)
# Keep on swingin' away, Slugger!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:58, archived)
# haha brilliant
I am doing a song and video about News of the World and wondered if I could use this in it. I want to make it a B3TA team effort!! You'll be credited of course!!

Cheers
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:44, archived)
# Sure, go for it.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:02, archived)
# cheers
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:06, archived)
# Considering how stunning his wife is, Brooks sure is a step-down
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:47, archived)
# the Adventures of Ron Manuel
                                He's a bit Ginger
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:54, archived)
# SPANK! wooaah wooahh SPANK!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:04, archived)
# She loves it.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:12, archived)
# Yes, I remember this!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:33, archived)
# that slapping is going perfectly with the tune im listening to
eerily realistic though... o.O
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:35, archived)
# Hahaha:D
Would
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#
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# Don't be silly!
NI is very, very rich, and the police are the police.

They can do what they like!

The law only applies to the little people.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:06, archived)
# I rest my case M'lud.
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#


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# You didn't want to be on TV?
Didn't know you had the opportunity?
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#
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# Awaiting fatty wanking...
Oh wait.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:20, archived)
# The platypus should be watching intently.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:23, archived)
# The Platypus is next
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:29, archived)
# I always like your artwork..... but don't really get the stories.....
Edit. this is meant to be a compliment.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:25, archived)
# I really haven't the faintest any more
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:52, archived)
# ^ this - HARD!
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# o_O
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#
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# haha
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# :D
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# :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:35, archived)
# Looks like a 'Parky' interview
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:38, archived)
# I think he looks quite warm
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:58, archived)
# :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:33, archived)
# SO! You fell for my little act?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:33, archived)
# Oops! Bang on top of yours mate :(
Sorry bout that!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:36, archived)
# Tish tish!
No probs sir :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:38, archived)
# :D
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# \O/
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:24, archived)
# Take me to your leader!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:29, archived)
# Ye-eah!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:30, archived)
# I for one welcome our bowler-hatted denture-demon overlords.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:32, archived)
# Yay... teeeeeefs...!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:26, archived)
# Hello, have a little something I found in my archives.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:52, archived)
# Mr Lamp-post should stand and fight!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:00, archived)
# but then Mr Doggy will unleash his primary cannon!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:18, archived)
# I think he could handle that, depending on what ammunition was used.
But, if Mr Doggy was to use his secondary device, I think Mr LP would be in the shit!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:26, archived)
# Nice lolloping action
on the lamp-post.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:18, archived)
# Yay for things chasing things!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:27, archived)
# yay indeed
Herring
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:52, archived)
# :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:04, archived)
# Hahaha!
*Click*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:08, archived)
# THE LIBYANS
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# HAHAHAHA
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:31, archived)
# Haha.. love this one....
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# Yay hay....
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:29, archived)
# Hahaha,
and nicely tagged.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:28, archived)
# He'll be caught short if he doesn't catch it soon...!
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# :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:49, archived)
# This is the end...
...beautiful friend..the end! ;)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:04, archived)
# Directed by
Francis Ford Copaloadintheface?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:16, archived)
# hahahahahahaha
this deserves more comments.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:55, archived)
# Bless you Fiendy!
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:11, archived)
# Yes please !!!!
using this for the vid if you don't miind!!!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:45, archived)
# bored
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:09, archived)
# cheh cheh cheh "What's up 'doch ?"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:13, archived)
# TJ alert - sorry
Sorry to be such a numpty, but even tho I've been posting for 2 years and know pretty much all the terminology, I don't know what "/ac" means. It's not in Mictoboy's dictionary (unless I've failed at that).

Can anyone please tell me what /ac means please.

thank you!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:44, archived)
# Autocomplete
/ac
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:48, archived)
# It has something to do with magnets.
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# /ac = autocomplete
A response that's typically been stored in the user's browser auto fill/complete history and been posted again.

/ac is usually used when saying "I've posted this before, and by heck it's come in handy again"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:48, archived)
# I heart you
*shakes fist at cheeky hedgehog*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:50, archived)
# I've heard rumours that this week's image challenge will be NotW
Which will be excellent
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#
ooh i feel a pea coming along if it is
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:14, archived)
# Fantastic
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:17, archived)
# *turns on tap to help*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:45, archived)
# So A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, T, U, V, X, Y or Z, then?
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# oh HO! :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:16, archived)
# no the challenge is dogs being sick I heard
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# We've never had it so good
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# SICK WOLFSHARKS
We need one of these.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:18, archived)
# fucking hell
if it is, im boycotting b3ta for a week, protesting, and writing a badly worded facebook group.

Im already sick of seeing the wrinkly man and the ginger woman in pictures on here.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:42, archived)
# you just want to see them in your bedroom
am I right, am I right?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:44, archived)
# oh my
I'm rubbing myself against household objects at just the thought of that
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:18, archived)
# It happens every time theres a major news story.
You should be used to it by now.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:47, archived)
# OR
start an alt-compo that is hilarious
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:09, archived)
# OH SHIT, IT'S LETTERMAN
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:14, archived)
# LOOK BUSEY
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:18, archived)
# ^ gary?
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# and sometimes Jake
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# naaaaaaaaaaaaaa what's up doc?
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# "Murdock and the Chipmunks"? ace :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:26, archived)
# ha ha
all hail the divine shadow
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:37, archived)
# we worship his divine shadow
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:45, archived)
# haha - he looks more approachable, somehow.
A bit less likely to kill everyone and take over the world, anyway.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:39, archived)
# +of Murdoch's face.
Bored Tired

:P
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:40, archived)
# just a bit of fun...

margin for error give or take 1%
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:08, archived)
# This is great - love this
edit: Has the margin of error just decreased?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:17, archived)
# yep I just
checked with the abacus

(but i've got a feeling that margin for error is down to the accuracy of the scientific equipment doing the measuring)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:19, archived)
# I love the picture
but I don't understand it at all.
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:17, archived)
# I failed then
basically according to some yogis the meaning of life wasn't 42 but 108 . the programming code for reality

in a nutshell the distance between these celestial bodies is their diameters x 108 and oddly enough the diameter of the sun is 108 x earths diameter (give or take 1%)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:20, archived)
# that is more interesting than Cameron's bilge in the HoC atm.
thank you for explaining. :D xx
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# loverly ;)
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# I assume this is also why we get total eclipses sometimes
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:12, archived)
# yep weird no?
because of the 108 ratio the sun and moon appear exact same size from earth

I reckon 108 is our 3d reality manifestation of a 4d higher reality gravity reset button :P.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:24, archived)
# that is awesome!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:27, archived)
# bizarrely
the moons radius is also 1080 miles too?
came out of a conversation with someone at nightclass, I was sceptical at first
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:30, archived)
# there also 108 missing Doctor Who episodes....
oh, and
2sin (108°/2)=Φ
results in the golden ratio
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:33, archived)
# That's great!
108 is my new favourite number.

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:38, archived)
# It won't be when you wait for 45 minutes and then 2 turn up at the same time......
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:33, archived)
# They should redo the 118 adverts.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:42, archived)
# That was going well until you mentioned the atomic wieght of silver.
As the atomic weights rise throughout the periodic table it was sheer inevitability that one element would have atomic weight near 108.

It also has no link with the other three measurements. It's like suddenly saying "Oh yeah, and my house number is 108!"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:46, archived)
# the link
was silver has always been associated with the moon in ancient cultures ;)

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:47, archived)
# Haha - I know what you mean.
But silver is a 'cool' metal. If it had been, say, tungsten, it wouldn't have seemed worth mentioning.

edit: and it's associated with the moon. That too.
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# I have a collection of 108 spoons.
It was 122, but I've thrown 14 away.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:53, archived)
# come on you stubborn bugger ;)
which element has been most associated with the moon by ancient yogis (which is where I sourced this info)?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:56, archived)
# Spoon rhymes with moon.
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# cat
rhymes with stubborn twat!
;)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:07, archived)
# I'm just giving myself a reason to not get back to work
using the righteous banner of SCIENCE as my excuse.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:09, archived)
# science
Distance between earth and sun = 108 x sun-diameter

sun diameter:
-1,392,000 km ("Sun" Columbia Electronic Encyclopedia. 6th ed. Columbia University Press, 2003)
- 1,400,000 km (Namowitz, Samuel N. and Spaulding, Nancy E. Earth Science. Evanston, IL: McDougal Littell Company, 1999)
- 1,390,000 km (The Amazing Structure of the Sun. National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), 2003)
- 1,380,000 km (Namowitz, Samuel N., and Nancy E. Spaulding. Heath Earth Science. Lexington, MA: Heath, 1994: 398.)

The distance between the earth and the Sun is called an Astrological Unit (AU).
1 AU = 149,597,870.691 kilometers
Even though this is the number given there are multiple places where variability gets into the numbers. One way is the elliptical orbit of the earth around the Sun.
Perihelion: 147.5 million km, about January 4th
Aphelion 152.6 million km, about July 4th (http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2001/ast04jan_1.htm)


Taking the mean distance between the earth and the Sun ( 149,597,870.691 km) and dividing it by the most commonly used diameter of the Sun (1,392,000 km) =

107.46973469181034482758620689655. which is 1% within 108

108 also turns up with calculating the other distances and circumferences too
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:12, archived)
# SCIENCE!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:20, archived)
# Ancient Yogis?
I read somewhere that an English Doctor took Meditative Stretching to India during the Raj era and gave it a name pinched out of religious text. No such thing as "Ancient" Yogis....
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:06, archived)
# ok ancient teaching
practised by yogis. pedant
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:10, archived)
# The Bhagavad Gita was also inspired by and based upon
an overheard Robert Oppenheimer comment
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# and all you needed
was a knife
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:06, archived)
# Not to mention
its extraordinary electrical and thermal conductivity
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:56, archived)
# Ooo yes!
Good call. Silver is awesome.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:01, archived)
# Also, technically, no natural silver atom has a weight of 108.
They're either 107 or 109.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:49, archived)
# yep
but I was using the old caveat I stuck in the post of the 1% margin of error (I made sure I covered my ass before posting) and you can't deny silvers association with the moon in ancient wisdom. thought that was a nice coincidence.

the average of 107 and 109 is 108 though ;)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:51, archived)
# A 1% margin of error would mean that 108 could, acutally, be 107 or 109 and still quallify.
And 107Ag is slightly more abundant that 109 Ag
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:07, archived)
# you certainly know how to split a hair
silver weight is actually 107.8682 which is closer to 108 than 107



(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:20, archived)
# The entire discrepancy can be explained
it's made entirely out of little fractions of 108, added together.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:58, archived)
# i want to eat pie.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:59, archived)
# ^this
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:37, archived)
# Bollocks.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:37, archived)
#
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:40, archived)
# Oh, nuts.
Yup: I think I got my radii and diameters ballsed up.
*recalculates*

OK - so I now get 825681.6. What I don't get is what all this is supposed to show, even assuming all your figures and calculations were correct to begin with.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 14:51, archived)
# BALLS!
And I fucked up the atomic weight/ number thing.

None of which means that the 108 stuff makes the slightest sense, but it'd've been nice for one of us to be correct, wouldn't it? I still don't see what the point of any of this is.

*sobs*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:08, archived)
# Now I'm having a good old chuckle at this thread!
nice to see a healthy argument unfold from "just a bit of fun..."
I was nearly taken in by it all!
top ranting everybody :)

*clicks*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:02, archived)
# From CURIOUS MYTHS OF THE MIDDLE AGES, BY S. BARING-GOULD, M.A., 1867:
The laws governing numbers are so perplexing to the uncultivated mind,
and the results arrived at by calculation are so astonishing, that it
cannot be matter of surprise if superstition has attached itself to
numbers.

But even to those who are instructed in numeration, there is much that
is mysterious and unaccountable, much that only an advanced
mathematician can explain to his own satisfaction. The neophyte sees
the numbers obedient to certain laws; but _why_ they obey these laws
he cannot understand; and the fact of his not being able so to do,
tends to give to numbers an atmosphere of mystery which impresses him
with awe.

(Some examples later is this bit about the number 14:)


The number 14 has often been observed as having singularly influenced
the life of Henry IV. and other French princes. Let us take the
history of Henry.

On the 14th May, 1029, the first king of France named Henry was
consecrated, and on the 14th May, 1610, the last Henry was
assassinated.

Fourteen letters enter into the composition of the name of Henri de
Bourbon, who was the 14th king bearing the titles of France and
Navarre.

The 14th December, 1553, that is, 14 centuries, 14 decades, and 14
years after the birth of Christ, Henry IV. was born; the ciphers of
the date 1553, when added together, giving the number 14.

The 14th May, 1554, Henry II. ordered the enlargement of the Rue de la
Ferronnerie. The circumstance of this order not having been carried
out, occasioned the murder of Henry IV. in that street, four times 14
years after.

The 14th May, 1552, was the date of the birth of Marguérite de Valois,
first wife of Henry IV.

On the 14th May, 1588, the Parisians revolted against Henry III., at
the instigation of the Duke of Guise.

On the 14th March, 1590, Henry IV. gained the battle of Ivry.

On the 14th May, 1590, Henry was repulsed from the Fauxbourgs of
Paris.

On the 14th November, 1590, the Sixteen took oath to die rather than
serve Henry.

On the 14th November, 1592, the Parliament registered the Papal Bull
giving power to the legate to nominate a king to the exclusion of
Henry.

On the 14th December, 1599, the Duke of Savoy was reconciled to Henry
IV.

On the 14th September, 1606, the Dauphin, afterwards Louis XIII., was
baptized.

On the 14th May, 1610, the king was stopped in the Rue de la
Ferronnerie, by his carriage becoming locked with a cart, on account
of the narrowness of the street. Ravaillac took advantage of the
occasion for stabbing him.

Henry IV. lived four times 14 years, 14 weeks, and four times 14 days;
that is to say, 56 years and 5 months.

On the 14th May, 1643, died Louis XIII., son of Henry IV.; not only on
the same day of the same month as his father, but the date, 1643, when
its ciphers are added together, gives the number 14, just as the
ciphers of the date of the birth of his father gave 14.

Louis XIV. mounted the throne in 1643: 1 + 6 + 4 + 3 = 14.

He died in the year 1715: 1 + 7 + 1 + 5 = 14.

He lived 77 years, and 7 + 7 = 14.

Louis XV. mounted the throne in the same year; he died in 1774, which
also bears the stamp of 14, the extremes being 14, and the sum of the
means 7 + 7 making 14.

Louis XVI. had reigned 14 years when he convoked the States General,
which was to bring about the Revolution.

The number of years between the assassination of Henry IV. and the
dethronement of Louis XVI. is divisible by 14.

Louis XVII. died in 1794; the extreme digits of the date are 14, and
the first two give his number.

The restoration of the Bourbons took place in 1814, also marked by the
extremes being 14; also by the sum of the ciphers making 14.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 15:36, archived)
# I can kind of see the point your making
but cherry picking from literally trillions of dates, names and events throughout history until you find some syncronicity and amorphous numerical pattern to make the point that this is somehow open to subjective interpretation is not the same as showing the one objective syncronicity in the distances between the one earth, one sun and one moon we have (and atomic weight of the one element used to symbolise it - silver/moon). I just thought it a bizarre set of coincidences. but what do i know :p
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:21, archived)
# You make three points
1. The size of the moon appears to match the size of the sun during an eclipse. So, are you implying the earth is also physically special in the solar system in some way beyond this? If not, so what? The distance from the moon to the earth is 30.1 times the earth's diameter. That's not very synchronous with anything, so you look at it the other way round.

2. The ratio of distance to the sun to the size of the sun is similar to the ratio of the size of the sun to the size of the earth. Fine. You only notice this one ratio, though, and ignore many others, such as size of earth divided by size of moon, or anything to do with the other planets.

3. The atomic weight of silver is a similar number, and silver is associated with the moon. Well OK. I'm not sure how arbitrary a unit an atomic weight is. It means, at least, arbitrarily weighing things in protons. Many other things are associated with the moon, such as werewolves, periods and arses. Silver is only associated with the moon because the moon looks silvery. The moon is mostly made of iron. Perhaps there's a close similarity between some fundamental physical number to do with iron and the diameter/distance ratio of the moon - and perhaps numbers to do with werewolves, periods and arses can be found which also match - but again, so what? Don't worry about cherry picking: even excusing cherry picking, what are you saying?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 18:13, archived)
#
"1. The size of the moon appears to match the size of the sun during an eclipse. So, are you implying the earth is also physically special in the solar system in some way beyond this? If not, so what? The distance from the moon to the earth is 30.1 times the earth's diameter. That's not very synchronous with anything, so you look at it the other way round."

well funny you should say that as it does syncronise the other way:
108 x earth's diameter = the sun's diameter
(within 1% margin of error)
108 X 12,742 ( earth diameter)=1,376,136 (actual 1,392,000 sun diameter)

(this is in addition to the sun diameter x 108 = the distance to earth!)

2. The ratio of distance to the sun to the size of the sun is similar to the ratio of the size of the sun to the size of the earth. Fine. You only notice this one ratio, though, and ignore many others, such as size of earth divided by size of moon, or anything to do with the other planets.

see above and why would I choose and cherry pick other planets when Im talkng about the 3 most relevant celestial bodies?

"3. The atomic weight of silver is a similar number, and silver is associated with the moon. Well OK. I'm not sure how arbitrary a unit an atomic weight is. It means, at least, arbitrarily weighing things in protons. Many other things are associated with the moon, such as werewolves, periods and arses. Silver is only associated with the moon because the moon looks silvery. The moon is mostly made of iron. Perhaps there's a close similarity between some fundamental physical number to do with iron and the diameter/distance ratio of the moon - and perhaps numbers to do with werewolves, periods and arses can be found which also match - but again, so what? Don't worry about cherry picking: even excusing cherry picking, what are you saying?"

well the point is as the ancients said 'as above so below'. a profound correlation between the macroverse with the microverse. so the 108 weight of the atom they used to symbolise its celestial counterpart also has a very significant relationship to 108. to say they did this with werewolvees etc is absurd
(, Thu 21 Jul 2011, 8:51, archived)
#
No, you see, sun is to earth as earth is to moon (sun is bigger than earth, earth is bigger than moon). Size of sun to distance to earth is not in the same proportion as size of earth to distance to moon. You compare both the moon's size and the sun's size with the distance of the moon or sun respectively to earth, which is geocentric, so I thought perhaps you were advocating a geocentric model of the solar system, which didn't work out too well for the great astronomer Copper-Knickers.

To compare everything to earth and put earth at the centre is arbitrary.

You already said the bit about the sun being 108 times bigger than the earth. It's one of the three facts in your picture. That's what my point 2 is about.

You replied to point 2 with "see above", which in fact directs me to a reiteration of the thing point 2 replies to. You used this reiteration as a reply to point 1. You apparently misread point 1, and didn't get what I meant by "the other way round" (understandably enough, it's a very ambiguous phrase).

The earth's moon isn't any more relevant to the structure of the solar system than any of the various other moons of other planets. Its relevance to us of course comes from the fact that humans live near it. Physics doesn't know or care where humans live (at least not for the time being). You seem again to have geocentricism in mind.

Silver has nothing to do with the moon except in myth. Werewolves are not much more absurd in this context than silver. "As above so below" was a tremendous insight in its day, in the 3rd century, by the standards of the time.
(, Thu 21 Jul 2011, 18:02, archived)
# yep
reading back the first point took a burton there, sorry

ok here's the elephant in the room and the point I was hinting at but didn't want to articulate...and maybe i'm playing devil's advocate over this a bit too much now but

108 has been revered as sacred and having a special significance in the Indian subcontinent for thousands of years i.e the indian rosary or set of mantra counting has 108 beads
and also : 1 power 1 x 2 power 2 x 3 power 3 = 108
1st power=1; 2 to 2nd power=4 (2x2); 3 to 3rd power=27 (3x3x3). 1x4x27=108
etc

long before 'science' told us about these measurements (diameters, distances of moon, sun, earth and their close relationship with the number 108 - (moon radius is also 1080 miles)



this just struck me as being odd and quirky enough to be worth pointing out, then again I could be wrong





(, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 8:56, archived)
# Oh well that's quite cool
still chariots of the gods / Graham Hancock style nonsense, but do enjoy those kinds of theories.
(, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:38, archived)
#
is that the guy with the " god was an astronaut" bollocks?

nah i was thinking more just very clever ancient mathematicians like the way the ancient greeks knew the earth was round millenia before the world caught up
(, Fri 22 Jul 2011, 20:48, archived)
# No, that was Erik somebody. Graham Hancock is substantially milder than Erik von Whatshisface.
Hancock's theories are about things like: all pyramids belonging to the same absurdly ancient highly advanced culture, which was similar to but not actually Atlantis but actually it was, and was located in some lost region or continent - which definitely wasn't Atlantis because only fruitcakes talks about the Atlantean Continent and Hancock is a SERIOUS ACADEMIC - let's call it the Batlantean Bontinent. Everything he writes is thoroughly cited, to the dodgiest sources imaginable.
(, Sat 23 Jul 2011, 12:15, archived)
# Yay... I save my old concert tickets too... ;-).. that was a great gig......!!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:23, archived)
# I KNEW IT!
Well, I didn't BUT NOW I DO!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 17:09, archived)
# When did they change these?
They used to be in cardboard tubes didn't they?!



huge HUGE version here i.imgur.com/xJyWo.jpg
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:24, archived)
# They indeed used to be in cardboard tubes.
Although it's unclear what material the tube is in your pic.

Edit: And the liquorice was very nom.

Edit Edit: Ah, those were the days:
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:26, archived)
# 0_0
I am 90% certain ^that^ exact same packaging was used for dodgy "nightclub" condoms in the late 80s....
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:42, archived)
# I'm going to bow to your superior knowledge on that one.
;-)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:54, archived)
# ha ha
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:02, archived)
# Should imagine they would be dodgy for 2p.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:55, archived)
# ^ this, also
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:55, archived)
# is "nom" a fucking adjective now
 
I just can't keep up with this banter
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:47, archived)
# Bloody hell! I'd forgotten alll about those...
Cheers, JPG, you just gave me a small nostalgiagasm.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:34, archived)
# Are they not still?
I'm convinced smarties only started using the wider hexagon packets to stop people using the old tubes to make their cat walk like a robot.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:28, archived)
# *Sends round RSPCA to fit you an electric collar*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:33, archived)
# Ha haaaaaa!
Love this. I really want to try that. Damn the ever changing confectionary design business!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:34, archived)
# Maybe
loo rolls and a fat bulldog?

Edit: www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VRklgMjr3E
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:49, archived)
# "Hammering the Sherbert Dip"
If that's not a euphemism, it really should be!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:29, archived)
# mmmm...
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:32, archived)
# Hmmmmm
Now you're talking.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:35, archived)
# Those sweets are completely wonderful.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:37, archived)
# Our tuck shop at school sold them.
Until they shut it on the grounds it was unhealthy.
I personally think 8 Refreshers for dinner is pretty good.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:39, archived)
# 3 more than your 5-a-day
/unhealthy eating blog
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:54, archived)
#
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:39, archived)
# Superb
The pet you can eat between meals!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:55, archived)
# Ta!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:00, archived)
# I used to work at Swizzels
My rucksack was always full of 'faulty' refresher chews, refresher bars yellow AND pink, and love hearts.

I was 22 :(
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:56, archived)
# I love the concept of a penny chew being "faulty"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:03, archived)
# you would be surprised
Often they came out malformed so couldnt be wrapped by the machines. Cant sell an unwrapped chew.
And if you tampered with the extraction nozzle you could make quite a few come out malformed before you 'noticed' and quickly rectified the problem.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:17, archived)
# ha ha :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:40, archived)
# I got my dad to bring a few back about 3 years ago and they were weird plastic things then so there's your marker
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:30, archived)
# Yeah they are!
Spent 5 mins trying to get he lid off!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:33, archived)
# I think they used to have Mark Porter on them
(actually, I'm forrin and have never seen one of these)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:54, archived)
# the sherbet fizz I remember came in a little paper bag
but there was a shitty little liquorice straw in it, that always blocked up before you got half way through the bag

food acid + carbonate + sugar, a generally unsatisfying experience
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherbet_(powder)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:03, archived)
# This is nice.
And yes, they did. Pretty much all sweets were wrapped in paper or foil. I miss the more tactile packaging of yore.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:45, archived)
# Yay...
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 16:57, archived)
# Ruprecht Murdoch
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:33, archived)
# That bit at the end of deathwish where rupert was in parliament and he shot charles bronson was great
I don't know what the pie was meant to symbolise
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:37, archived)
# nothing
just desserts
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:50, archived)
# Maybe I'm just putting the writers on a pedestal here
but I really don't want it to be all that drama for just one little play on words.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:59, archived)
# i wanna know what the porn music in the soundtrack was meant to represent
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:22, archived)
# Oh man you can't draw that parallel when theres such a sweet bassline
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:29, archived)
# watch me
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:40, archived)
# DO IT
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:42, archived)
#

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:55, archived)
# HORSES FOR COURSES
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:46, archived)
# Did anyone see that bit where the scottish guy was quizzing rupert and rupert was pretending he couldn't understand
and then lil john came in and was like UNNHHHHH, WHAT? and said WHAT? for 10 minutes and then the scottish guy gave up

I think that was the bit where rupert started hating on charles bronson
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:43, archived)
# I'm glad they stopped charles bronson from shooting thatcher though
I mean really it was ruperts own undoing by shooting bronson because otherwise thatcher would be dead and everyone would be distracted
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:47, archived)
# GREAT MOVIE 9.5/10
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:47, archived)
# "... Thank you"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:49, archived)
# Not muther!?
:)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:51, archived)
# heh!
Then what did we do, Rupert? We apologized.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:49, archived)
# No offence meant to anyone... all these pictures are skillfully done...
...but b3ta has been unrelentingly topical these last few days. Can we just have some stupid kitten animations or something as a distraction? If only so we don't have to keep looking at Murdoch's horrible face.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:12, archived)
# :)

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:17, archived)
# *ding!*
Gay.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:18, archived)
# it's not gay if it's a different species :P
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:30, archived)
# ..., Officer.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:32, archived)
# ha ha ha!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:55, archived)
# Nice one!
That's really hit the spot.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:44, archived)
# Save us from the topicality!
Run for the hills!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:19, archived)
# Run fooo-oor your lii-iife!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:20, archived)
# *air guitars*
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:21, archived)
# I like cats and pictures of cats
 

 
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:45, archived)
# hehehe..
Nice one, Ninj :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:37, archived)
# Cheers JP and good afternoon sir!
All well one trusts? :D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:42, archived)
# Afternoon!
Not so dusty, thanks, how's Ninj-World?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 12:56, archived)
# Ready for Robin Hoods Bay sir!
:D two and a half weeks and counting...
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:07, archived)
# Lovely!
Sounds fab :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:11, archived)
# Cheers matey!
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 13:19, archived)
# Wendi Deng Ain't Nuttin' Da Fuck Wit'
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:12, archived)
# Silly bitch should have thrown a shoe instead!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:20, archived)
# Superb, Sir :)
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:28, archived)
# That went great! Yeah great, really great. No, no it was awful...dreadful
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:46, archived)
# hahahaha, muppets!

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:48, archived)
# Well done, Jimmy Marbles.
You single-handedly, in one move, made Murdoch a martyr.

Good work. Hope you're proud of it.

How much did News International pay you?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:57, archived)
# That's Ninj - you Muppet
I think you're getting him confused with someone else.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:58, archived)
# Hahahaha shush this is serious, you wanker*!
*Props to SBC/Ali G for winding up hippies.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:01, archived)
# A martyr's pushing it a bit far isn't it?
at the very worst, he's made British security look a bit silly but I don't think the old goat's garnered much sympathy one way or the other
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:01, archived)
# The way the red tops and the Daily Wail are reporting it is.
IE - the feeders of the majority of the country's readership.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:11, archived)
# Jimmy Marbles is a shit comedy name.
Sounds like the kind of tosser who performs at kids parties but isn't a clown.
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:03, archived)
# It's the epitome of "lolwaki"
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:08, archived)
# hahaha
nicely sir
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:57, archived)
# Cheers Bilbo!
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:03, archived)
# "Don't worry Rupert, I'll save you."
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:26, archived)
# Full of win!
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:42, archived)
# Very nice, have a quick head swap!

(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:52, archived)
# Ian Duncan Smith?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 10:58, archived)
# it is, isn't it?
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:00, archived)
# HAHAHAHA
:D
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:11, archived)
# hahaha
brilliant
(, Wed 20 Jul 2011, 11:00, archived)

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