
it leaves a little line :/
Iv'e
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Iv'e


queen working at McDonalds: starkandy
who wants a full tank of petrol: BubaMan
Lord of the onion ring: Mr MacTarpaulin-Smythe
Jonathan ross tramp: The Great Architect
Apple ican phones: The Dirty Weeker
Dragons Den golf sale: funkenstein
should contact the sun
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who wants a full tank of petrol: BubaMan
Lord of the onion ring: Mr MacTarpaulin-Smythe
Jonathan ross tramp: The Great Architect
Apple ican phones: The Dirty Weeker
Dragons Den golf sale: funkenstein
should contact the sun

Maybe I need to include topical wit instead of stupid crap.
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they'll pick it up tomorrow and I'll no doubt get a response fairly quickly. Thanks for the list of other people affected - it is 'useful'
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[edit]
Top Gear: Puromycin
Paddington Train: monstrinho do biscoito
Tesco Shampoo: amoebaboy
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Top Gear: Puromycin
Paddington Train: monstrinho do biscoito
Tesco Shampoo: amoebaboy

but some would say the "of" is redundant and disrupts the flow of the sentence.
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"from" would be more correct
"taken off b3ta.com without permission" would be even better, although that raises the issues of the internet being public domain.
in fairness, from the articles i've seen posted on here they always reference b3ta, and
often reference the posters, so the problem's not the same as it was with emap/bauer since they went out of their way to remove the tags etc.
EDIT: wait a minute, what the fuck am i doing playing devil's advocate to the scum??? fuck em up!!!!
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"taken off b3ta.com without permission" would be even better, although that raises the issues of the internet being public domain.
in fairness, from the articles i've seen posted on here they always reference b3ta, and
often reference the posters, so the problem's not the same as it was with emap/bauer since they went out of their way to remove the tags etc.
EDIT: wait a minute, what the fuck am i doing playing devil's advocate to the scum??? fuck em up!!!!

actually I would prefer "right offa".
HOOO-WEE THESE VARMINS COME TOOK OUR PICTURES RIGHT OFFA OUR WEBSITE.
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HOOO-WEE THESE VARMINS COME TOOK OUR PICTURES RIGHT OFFA OUR WEBSITE.

we all bricked ourselves
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We'd be no better than the Americans
There are conventions in written English which are followed for a reason by a, sadly, diminishing minority. In a matter such as this, it is more effective to use proper English than colloquial English.
Now get the fuck offa my land you damn yankeee varmint
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There are conventions in written English which are followed for a reason by a, sadly, diminishing minority. In a matter such as this, it is more effective to use proper English than colloquial English.
Now get the fuck offa my land you damn yankeee varmint

i'm from plymouth though, so we can use whatever grammar or made up words we like, and people won't question it. :)
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nothing wrong with that - all the best people come from there
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it's like complaining that a radio station played your bootleg remix.
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And I think the main concern was that someone else was getting money and prizes for sending in those bootlegs. Even DJs gots to gets paid.
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but that was the zoo or nuts thing, not this as far as I can tell.
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but where did the b3tards steal their source images from?
It's a different situation when a completely original work is taken and used for commercial gain without permission, but most of the pictures in the sun were photoshops of stock images/stuff found on the net.
If you don't own the original picture you are shopping, then it's a bit hypocritical to accuse the Sun of stealing your work.
Did you ask the Sun if you could use their logo for your picture there?
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It's a different situation when a completely original work is taken and used for commercial gain without permission, but most of the pictures in the sun were photoshops of stock images/stuff found on the net.
If you don't own the original picture you are shopping, then it's a bit hypocritical to accuse the Sun of stealing your work.
Did you ask the Sun if you could use their logo for your picture there?

we all get upset when Prince says we can't use his image in our photoshops, but get all angry when somebody else uses our pictures.
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'tis a big community.
But you're right, of course
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But you're right, of course

However, when commercial usage comes into it, then the issue gets pretty muddy.
As far as I see, in this case no-one from B3TA set out to make financial gain from their images.
But The Sun is maximising its profit by using free images.
The Sun's ratecard for a full colour page advert is over £55,000.
The paper rakes in over £1.7 Million in cover price on a Saturday.
Obviously, they buy in editorial images and pay their journalists.
But they are getting in editorial on the cheap AND they claim copyright on the images on their website.
It's something that can't just be ignored.
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As far as I see, in this case no-one from B3TA set out to make financial gain from their images.
But The Sun is maximising its profit by using free images.
The Sun's ratecard for a full colour page advert is over £55,000.
The paper rakes in over £1.7 Million in cover price on a Saturday.
Obviously, they buy in editorial images and pay their journalists.
But they are getting in editorial on the cheap AND they claim copyright on the images on their website.
It's something that can't just be ignored.

I pay for all the photography used which means the profit is very little.
When I'm doing something for my blog or b3ta then I adopt the traditional b3tan model :-)
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When I'm doing something for my blog or b3ta then I adopt the traditional b3tan model :-)

This is what I do with chainmail, except the terminal part.
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(extra points for ASCII execution)
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I didn't send it on, though.
I hate them purely because it shows how stupid people really are.
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I hate them purely because it shows how stupid people really are.

IF U DO NOT PASS ON THIS MESAGE U WIL B A VERI NAWTY PERSON N BURN IN HELL

BUT IF YOU MAIL THIS TO AT LEAST 10 OTHER PPL YOU WILL PASS INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVAN & SIT @ THE RIGHT HAND OV THE FATHER 4EVA!!!!
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Now ur gonan die now ryt???/
QK SEND IT ONNN
ARGHHHH DNT RSK IT
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QK SEND IT ONNN
ARGHHHH DNT RSK IT

the one that takes the piss as it's quite funny and crops up every year or so
although saying that i don't get very many as there are no 8 year olds with my e-mail address
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although saying that i don't get very many as there are no 8 year olds with my e-mail address

that was the first one I got for ages and ages and ages.
And I emailed the person who sent it to me and ripped them a new one.
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And I emailed the person who sent it to me and ripped them a new one.

"Saint Louis IX, King of France 1226–1270, is the patron saint of haberdashers."
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FUCKING AWESOME!
*CLEEK*
:D
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*CLEEK*
:D

And I have decided that I hate everyone in the whole world and if I had a butterfly I would pull one of it's wings off.
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*said in mock scouse accent*
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*said in a mangled combination of scots and aussie accents*
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Because he hated everyone in the whole world.
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the sharks still have the really fast ones
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but it's a lot less saddening than the original

with an escapement pun. And hope that some one else would chime in. But people seem slower that a snails. The jokes should fly!!
is horology knowledge better or worse than choo choo train knowledge?
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is horology knowledge better or worse than choo choo train knowledge?

that seems pretty obscure. springs and clockwork maybe, but wtf is an escape?
train knowledge (whatever it's technical name is) and horology are equiv imho
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train knowledge (whatever it's technical name is) and horology are equiv imho

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escapement
um chime, obvious, the bonging thing in a mechanical clock. The snail is a sort of snail shaped thing that controls how many bongs you get and the fly is something that regulates the speed of the bongs.
z.about.com/w/experts/Antique-Clocks-3526/2008/04/Rack-snail.jpg
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um chime, obvious, the bonging thing in a mechanical clock. The snail is a sort of snail shaped thing that controls how many bongs you get and the fly is something that regulates the speed of the bongs.
z.about.com/w/experts/Antique-Clocks-3526/2008/04/Rack-snail.jpg


...John actually looks a bit hawt with long hair

or does John with long hair look exactly like Ulrika Jonsson?
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I haven't posted for about 6 months, as it is blocked at my new work. Anyway, have a pearoast of my renaissance memes piece from ages ago to mark the occasion. I still like it...

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and keep using them well, until they are a meme!
A WATERCOLOUR MEME MEME!
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A WATERCOLOUR MEME MEME!

good b3taday image.. happy b3taday
/draws cdc... very crudely
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/draws cdc... very crudely

web cam
edit :

468k?
www.b3tards.com/u/9897cb87f61e8816c182/karatefall_mol.jpg
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edit :

468k?
www.b3tards.com/u/9897cb87f61e8816c182/karatefall_mol.jpg

is it on UK Gold?
sounds like it should be.
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sounds like it should be.

for the whole day, but i decided against it.
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And i got to 27 this morning, but i don't think it's possible in one day.
Maybe if i played S&D well, until 12:59 tonight.
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Maybe if i played S&D well, until 12:59 tonight.

Do it, Document the results
Put it in the newsletter!
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 13:07,
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Put it in the newsletter!

and yeah HQ with like an rpd or something would work.
I'm bored of it this morning though, i may give it another go later on, i'll see if i can get to 40 by tonight :)
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I'm bored of it this morning though, i may give it another go later on, i'll see if i can get to 40 by tonight :)

I havent had live that long so ive got some work to do :)
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i'm at 6th or 7th now, the gold one with little silver bits round the top edge, i dont know.
WHAT A NERD.
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WHAT A NERD.

Only played about 2 and a half days worth, and probably about a days worth of that is dicking about with mates playing (they arnt very good) :)
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I've been playing for just over 9 days :(
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wiki.answers.com/Q/How_is_the_reproductive_system_of_a_blue_ringed_octopus
yes that settles it.
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yes that settles it.

I am hoping they are ladies with man-masks on.
Woo.
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Woo.

But no one cares.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:59,
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there was a shop near me called Broadway New's and Booze, classy eh?
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To tell the truth, I've been racking my brains and can't think how '10 items or less' is ambiguous.
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I don't see why I have to distinguish between large numbers of small things (less sugar) and small numbers of large things (fewer shoes). Why can't I use one term for both?
On the other hand, people better not be misusing "insure" and "ensure" around me... :)
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On the other hand, people better not be misusing "insure" and "ensure" around me... :)

foc's'ale? something like that. bring it on you pedants ;)
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:33,
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forward of the castle
edit: (although it could be fo'c'sl'e or f'o'c'sl'e - dunno)
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edit: (although it could be fo'c'sl'e or f'o'c'sl'e - dunno)

ponder it a moment
then punch them in the face
"Nobody gives a fuck"
and get on with your life :)
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then punch them in the face
"Nobody gives a fuck"
and get on with your life :)

if you consider the sugar to be one flowing item, like a liquid. If you were referring to the individual sugar grains, you would use fewer.
I don't make the rules, I just have to slavishly insure that everybody else follows them ;)
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I don't make the rules, I just have to slavishly insure that everybody else follows them ;)

I have a pile of sand (or sugar, I suppose but what the hell am I doing with a pile of sugar for fuck's sake?!) and I remove a grain from the top of the pile.
I continue to remove grains from the pile, one at a time; at what point does it stop being a pile of sand? When one grain is left? 10 grains? There is no real distinction between masses of things and groups of things.
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I continue to remove grains from the pile, one at a time; at what point does it stop being a pile of sand? When one grain is left? 10 grains? There is no real distinction between masses of things and groups of things.

Then it's just "smelly hair sand".
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but there is a difference in everyday language.
If I ask a greengrocer for a bunch of grapes and he hands me a single grape, arguments about philosophy are not going to make me buy it.
[edit] On reflection, i think what you have identified is simply vague language, rather than any philosophical idea. A 'pile' of sand is a relative term which may mean something different to everyone, whereas 'ten tons of sand' is a specific value that there can be no doubt about.
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If I ask a greengrocer for a bunch of grapes and he hands me a single grape, arguments about philosophy are not going to make me buy it.
[edit] On reflection, i think what you have identified is simply vague language, rather than any philosophical idea. A 'pile' of sand is a relative term which may mean something different to everyone, whereas 'ten tons of sand' is a specific value that there can be no doubt about.

It is not size dependant, you can have less of anything or fewer of anything.
Less sugar or fewer grains of sugar, fewer shoes or less shoe.
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Less sugar or fewer grains of sugar, fewer shoes or less shoe.

so techinically I had less shoe
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"Use fewer to describe countable things. Use less to describe uncountable quantities, collective amounts, and degree. These terms are not interchangeable."
It is number dependant, not size-dependant. Or dependent. Whatever.
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It is number dependant, not size-dependant. Or dependent. Whatever.

If there are so many it is a bitch to count then it is still countable.
You never have less grains of sugar, no matter how much sugar there is, yet you have less sugar, even if there is only 1 grain left.
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You never have less grains of sugar, no matter how much sugar there is, yet you have less sugar, even if there is only 1 grain left.

does it, or does it not include the basket? or everything else you're carrying? Does it pertain only to things currently belonging to the supermarket? What about things already on the conveyor belt? Arrrrgh!
Oh, just ten things.
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Oh, just ten things.

Not you Meister, but the crap uploaded 'as news'
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Does that include 10 items?
10 items or less is quite clear - it is 10 items or less than 10 items.
less fewer.
Why do they not just change it to fewer, rather than sparking off a whole new debate? D:
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10 items or less is quite clear - it is 10 items or less than 10 items.
Why do they not just change it to fewer, rather than sparking off a whole new debate? D:


people still come through with trolleys with 200 items in them
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was in the whiteshiths c compiler manual, about 20 years ago
i say yay for half-open intervals
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:31,
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i say yay for half-open intervals

the plain english society think that Tesco's customers would be confused by the word fewer,
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they want to cage language. keep it as their little pet. i cannot let them do this.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:28,
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plain english would be like some single figure for a reading age
innit, like :)
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:25,
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innit, like :)

for instance, insurance companies and the like who often deal with technical jargon that those outside the industry don't understand. That is a good case for making an effort to word letters and documents in terms their customers will understand.
I sometimes wonder on some of the finer points though - is it really making things plainer, or is it just dumbing down?
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I sometimes wonder on some of the finer points though - is it really making things plainer, or is it just dumbing down?

but if they're going to be boring prescriptivists... no.
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Slightly furry and very warm.
*rubs against cheek*
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:32,
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*rubs against cheek*

If I needed to get to Bankok today, where would I flight details from online?
Airport not important.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 12:02,
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Airport not important.

i logged into the company travel system and searched, it gave some options, no direct flghts though
cheapest was about 812 quid (returning in 3 weeks)...
heathrow to amsterdam on klm1022 at 1710
then to bangkok on klm 877
arrives 1230 tomorrow in bangkok
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cheapest was about 812 quid (returning in 3 weeks)...
heathrow to amsterdam on klm1022 at 1710
then to bangkok on klm 877
arrives 1230 tomorrow in bangkok

or are flights moving now?
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they're having slight protest issues, as far as i know the airports are still open, the foreign office are just advising people not to travel, and if they do not to get involved in the protests
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go to heathrow and take what they've got.
(just blew 2 grand on 72hr no sleep extravaganza to appease girlfriend on different continent)
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(just blew 2 grand on 72hr no sleep extravaganza to appease girlfriend on different continent)

Enjoying a couple of weeks off work!
Holidays FTW!
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Holidays FTW!

I must get round to booking some hols meself...
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Like it!
Edit: Who's the source on that one, btw?
Edit Edit: You're quite right...

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Edit: Who's the source on that one, btw?
Edit Edit: You're quite right...


get me some smokes while you're there, would you?
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compliment my source on this one
www.johnbradleydesign.com/
they have models I was going to
make Andy Pellick do a belly flop but I found him difficult to cut out.
originality I wanted to make a flying nun of some kind.
the world needs more supernuns.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 10:26,
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www.johnbradleydesign.com/
they have models I was going to
make Andy Pellick do a belly flop but I found him difficult to cut out.
originality I wanted to make a flying nun of some kind.
the world needs more supernuns.

Not fully happy with that one, but it is a start.
I'm saving some exploding cows for when I get it.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 8:50,
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I'm saving some exploding cows for when I get it.

Just make sure he doesn't grab the "reducing cream" again, lol.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 9:02,
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seriously, i like the animation.
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 9:04,
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Thanks.
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'ningles all. It may be pissing it down, there may be war, pestilence and famine in the world but it doesn't matter. I have two soft boilded double yolkers and soldiers for brekkie.
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almost bedtime for me, but i may indulge in some war before i nod off.
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almost halfway through the day
where's my damn rain!! damn it!
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Sun 31 Aug 2008, 11:32,
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where's my damn rain!! damn it!

glad I checked the popular page for this one.
WOO


clickety click here for bigger and most certainly UNSAFE FOR WORK.

You get another elastic band and I'll blow it back up again.
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