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not riot related

unless he nicked that tie

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ms morbo lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:49, archived)

woo this is superb ACG

big fan of your doodles.

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FIEND, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:08, archived)

thanks very much

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ms morbo lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:20, archived)

Nicely....

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:10, archived)

Woo!

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:46, archived)

Camel toe

~~camel~~ goat

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Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:14, archived)

Don't worry, fellow Londoners.

'Noir' will protect us when he gets over his panic attack.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:28, archived)

I can't laugh at that as after that 'documentary'

I just felt so sorry for the guy - I'm sure he could have done without that exposure.

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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:32, archived)

Possibly.

But it was a wonderful ending to the programme where he doesn't actually fight any crime, just writes the girl a nice letter and says, “It’s what you do that makes you a superhero, not a mask or costume.”

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:34, archived)

Who is it?

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:41, archived)

www.channel4.com/programmes/superheroes-of-suburbia

Noir was a lot less tragic than 'Black Void' whose superpower was to wave a walking stick about and complain about his irritable bowel syndrome.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:42, archived)

Looks like I miss all the quality TV... ;-)

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:54, archived)

Hahah, and if not, eveyone gets a box of maltesers left on their doorstep.

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Lord Kronos Go Team Pachyderm, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:33, archived)

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:36, archived)

mind if I pea in your thread, Joliet reminded me I did this and that it was very apt right now

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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:34, archived)

Nice.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:35, archived)

and they're about 17 feet tall, apparently

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:36, archived)

that still makes her one tall granny

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:37, archived)

lanky grannies are just a decoy

it's the midget dentists we have to watch out for

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:40, archived)

Applauds.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:37, archived)

lovely

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RiffRaff lurking like a lurky thing, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:38, archived)

Not to mention having to wear the funny hat!

Nice image =)

(macroscian (1 like), Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:44, archived)

You really wouldn't believe how true that is

...one of the most uncomfortable things i've ever had to wear

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Another_tragic_case wished he hadn't eaten all the cake, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:35, archived)

Not sure how literally you intend this

but I think it's a bit idealistic, dewy-eyed, and unrealistic Toasty.
This is the age of illegally kettling peaceful protests at one end of the spectrum, and illegally protecting the aims of corrupt corporations at the other. I think the days of "a few bad apples" are over; the problems are institutionalized now.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:45, archived)

Agreed

but that doesn't alter the fact that there are a lot of good people out there doing a decent job because they care.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:46, archived)

everyone hates the police until your house gets fucked over

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:50, archived)

And then they hate the police because nothing gets recovered and there's no conviction?

(xaer0mancer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:17, archived)

That's my experience.

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4Q just lurking, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:23, archived)

Seconded

Sorry but the MET police (at least) are useless. Not fit for purpose. Couldn't care less if you've been burgled or mugged. As for bike theft... your fault for having a bike, here's your claim number.

(Dread Pirate Roberts, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 19:18, archived)

this and prostheses below

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:51, archived)

I don't think

that has anything to do with the average copper on the street. If there had been a little kettling in the last few days, the situation might be different. If there hadn't been kettling at earlier protests, there might have been riots like this. I'm glad i don't have to make the choices.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:52, archived)

here... don't come around here with your balanced view and logic

I wont stand for it

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:57, archived)

Sorry

I forgot where i was.

Hope this helps. www.b3ta.com/links/664714

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:59, archived)

much better

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:07, archived)

Right, it's the schmoozing at the top and private old-boys-clubs like ACPO.

What rot there is is only filtering down from the top.

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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:57, archived)

ACPO

have to one of the most nefarious and secretive organizations in the country. with real power yet unelected and unaccountable. fuckers should be banned.

(prostheses, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:46, archived)

it's a difficult job, no doubt

the two young girls hand-picked by the bbc as spokepeople for the riots have valid economic and social reasons for the disorder, though they clearly express those views in a pretty unarticulate manner. The current government has eroded the rights of many and for the people that don't have much to be eroded, that causes desperation. These riots reflect a large "group" of people ignored by the government, not simply "wanton violence" or "no economic or social excuse" as the bbc and government are hell-bent on painting it. It is a reaction to socioeconomic disenfranchisement which has been brought on by the current government, not by facebook, not "just chavs being chavs" etc

what I mean is, I don't think the police are the target of this, nor should they be.

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:01, archived)

I find it interesting

That the riots have not yet extended to Southall and Wembley. Both areas could claim huge amounts of young people 'outside' white middle class society; not in touch with the police or government. And yet they are not smashing windows. I'm guessing, but perhaps the Asian community know where their bread is buttered and that smashing up cars and shops owned by neighbours is pretty stupid. So I think I disagree.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:13, archived)

but are these looters from the local area?

I-for-one wouldn't be shitting on my own doorstep

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:17, archived)

You think those two girls interviewed

could navigate?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:20, archived)

maybe a Sat-Chav?

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:25, archived)

*applaudes*

(DreddPirateBob has watched every scifi film ever on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:33, archived)

Innit

(dingomart thought he was fluent in bile, just not like this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:00, archived)

But on the other hand

cunts like Ian Blair thinking they are politicians not cooperate hasn't done the force many favours.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:14, archived)

What eroded rights are you thinking of?

This is not a rhetorical question, I just wanted to know.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:29, archived)

take a look at RIPA for starters

Then try walking along in central London on your way home and getting batoned then shoved to the ground by a nutter in full riot gear.

Even if that doesn't happen you get kettled. I am guessing those middle class lefty people weren't carrying iron bars and looked like fairly easy targets. If they had been tooled up there may have been a bit more standing by the sidelines.

Dont get me wrong, I have felt compassion for the police force for the first time in a long time after seeing what has been happening but these people have proven they are dangerous so they get left to if for days on end. Would not want to be a copper at the moment but I would not want to be a copper full stop.

Maybe a quick way of dealing with the looters would be to take the same approach as was taken during the expenses scandal. Their court appointed lawyer would address the court advising "my client has returned everything he stole and trusts that will be the end of the matter".

(OTT, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 11:51, archived)

The kids in London are not doing it out of social disenfranchisement

or pololotics, or because they're making a statement against the capitalist hegemony, they're doing it because they can get fashionable trainers and iPods for free.

This is why all the bookshops have been left alone, but JD Sports and PC World have taken the massive brunt of the violence.

This is not a political issue, it is about the underclass children of at least two generations, who have been raised to hate the police, what their rights are, and where to get their benefits, claiming what's theirs.

Only it isn't fucking theirs.

See that old lady on the street? FUCK HER! She perpetuated The System! LET'S BUST INTO HER FLAT AND GET HER FUCKING TELLY BECAUSE WE'RE ALL EQUAL NOW AND I SHOULD GET MINE!

You know that guy doing night shifts at the factory for the past year to pay for his kids child support? FUCK HIM! FUCKING IDIOT SHOULDN'T HAVE LEFT HIS KID!

It's fucking pathetic trying to justify this - it's just cunts being cunts, nothing more - nothing clever, nothing political - it's just kids stealing, because they can, because they know that no one will touch them. Because they're disenfranchised, innit.

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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:47, archived)

I completely disagree.

but you've obviously enjoyed the BBC's coverage, so it may be too late for me to sway your point of view.

My point was written in a rush before I had to go off to work, so apologies for the late reply.

I am just unable to take your black and white viewpoint seriously, that it's simply cunts being cunts. I see the looting as a symptom of the widespread anger at various problems in British society cuts, erosion of the benefit services, lack of job opportunities, poor standards of health care and education in deprived areas, poor community education and community development in deprived areas, shocking standards of housing, lack of trust for the police in light of recent media stories and negative personal experiences with police etc. I think it is incredibly superficial to see the disorder as simply because they all want to go thieving, though the dissemination of this point of view suits the government very well in influencing opinion against the rioters, should some people think that it's somehow got something to do with the government (surely not!).

I did not seek to justify any violence/theft/fireraising, only suggested a reason for it, that is, that a large social group feels it has no future and no place in society and are showing that they will not be ignored any longer.

Then again, it feels much better to just say it's "just cunts being cunts" and that it has nothing to do with wider societal problems.

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:28, archived)

There have always been

large social groups suffering in one way or another but the reaction to this situation doesn't follow a pattern of social expression, it appears to be opportunistic, 'safety in numbers' muppetry the likes of which has been created by a succession of enfranchising expansions in rights and expectations over the last century or so. To suggest that this type of situation isn't black and white is actually a little bit off target as it bears few of the hallmarks of popular uprisings the likes of which we have seen in the 'Arab spring' (but also ambling back through time to the Russian revolution) where there was a focus to the turmoil not merely a push to self serving anarchy amongst a small corps of the population.

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number5 has been fighting tramps and losing., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:07, archived)

in your opinion, it's off target.

I am simply suggesting an underlying problem, in my opinion. I don't think, due to the disorganised nature of the uprising, for one reason or another, that there will ever be a stated common point to the violence in order to draw parallels with the Arab spring. Social exclusion leads to a build up of anger over time and it is expressed in however a particular collective can/wish to. The problem is caused by social exclusion, therefore it is society's and the government's problem, they created this. I would contend that these people would not be motivated to violence and looting if they had been afforded the opportunities in life available to those who sit on a messageboard at 12:55 pontificating on such subjects.

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:55, archived)

Despite my rant below

A good part of me agrees with you to a point. But, as a person sitting on a messageboard at 12:55 doing just that, didn't you make your own opportunities? Are you not that person because of what you did and how you did it, rather than what The Man gave you? Why do you think it should be different for anyone else?

I will actively fight to continue to help people who need help, but at the same time I know from my own experience that there are a huge number of people shitting on my help, living on subsidised rents they don't need and haven't needed for 6 years for example. And I truly believe its those people, the ones who have had "rights" to shit on the help society gives them interfered with, that are the most aggrieved. The truly needy, the truly poor, are silent and forgotten as usual whilst all our attention and money is focussed on fighting, silencing, or pandering to the brats with a sense of entitlement.

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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:07, archived)

"I see the looting as a symptom of the widespread anger at various problems in British society... and negative personal experiences with police etc."

At what point, exactly, do you feel that these misunderstood darlings should take personal responsibility for being violent arsonists and opportunistic thieves? Even assuming those people cheerfully looting the high-value shops in their neighborhood actually subscribe to your point of view - which is by no means certain - their actions are not really contributing towards a solution.

It's kind of you to proffer a reason to their antisocial antics, some form of lofty justification. They, themselves, have demonstrated none - other than 'woo, free telly'. They're lucky to have you as their self-appointed spokesperson, mashing out a series of clichéd post-hoc rationales for their unforgivably shitty behavior.

You honestly think the cunts nicking TVs and tracksuits, burning random properties and cars, and stealing things from the pockets of fallen 'comrades' are doing it in order to protest health care standards, or any other specific item in your laundry list of sixth-form angst?

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Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 2:24, archived)

I'm suggesting it as a reason for the build up of anger

not as a justification for the individuals involved.

Such social disorder is the fault of the government, make no mistake about it. I can understand people getting all angry about it and all "kill those fucking uneducated chav scum", but I think it's important to keep an eye on the real reasons, not justifications, reasons for why this is happening now. I didn't mean to sound like I sympathised with the rioters as such, I only meant to suggest that there is certainly a bigger picture than just "chavs being chavs".

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:34, archived)

I can only say to you what I say to everyone

See how much the bigger picture matters to you when there are people trying to set fire to your home. This has literally been the case for some of my friends. The righteous anger of the poor, forgotten, blackberry owning, social media utilizing underclass eh? What the mainstream media is reporting becomes irrelevant when you're watching the bloke next door being beaten by kids wearing £300 trainers and designer clothing. Which they did not loot.

And yes, of course there are social problems and people with legitimate complaint, when aren't there? Personally if I have problems I sort them the fuck out rather than sitting around waiting for the government to do it for me and whingeing about the nanny state interfering with my life at the same time, whilst waiting around for a bunch of brain-dead thugs to use my malaise as an excuse to destroy people's lives and grab stuff so I can bleat about how that's the government's fault too.

Also its funny how the mainstream media are so establishment biased when it comes to reporting the riots. They were all so spot on about the cause of the financial crisis and it being solely the fault of bankers.

Massive double standards, the mainstream media.

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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:57, archived)

Yes, this is entirely due to feelings of disenfranchisement:

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:QUCcfjo2mgEJ:www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/greate-variety-of-new-unopened-laptops-in-original-packigingtoshibahpcompaqasussamsung-40-rpr/84845982+greate+variety+unopened+laptops&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&source=www.google.co.uk

www.google.co.uk/#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=http:%2F%2Flondon.craigslist.co.uk%2Fmob%2F2536072357.html&pbx=1&oq=http:%2F%2Flondon.craigslist.co.uk%2Fmob%2F2536072357.html&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=798l7833l0l8292l2l1l0l0l0l0l106l106l0.1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=9cf2e8405c02f145&biw=1272&bih=654

(Both now removed from their respective sites.)

Now that's how you stick it to the Man, and express your dismay at the way the country is run. None of this namby-pamby protest nonsense, just nick some shit and sell it.

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flake has nothing against your right leg, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 17:18, archived)

I didn't catch that bit on the BBC

Since I live in the States; could you possibly post a video link to it?

(dingomart thought he was fluent in bile, just not like this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:34, archived)

Same thing, really...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=omg1dsTWa3o

(suckfake Frisky biscuits, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 20:45, archived)

I know half a dozen police men and women personally and I can honestly say not one of them is a bad apple

by my experience (including those that have pulled me over and given me a ticket, stopped me in the street for being a bit the worse for wear and given me directions when I've asked) they are decent folk doing a very difficult job.
Granted this is no doubt a freakishly lucky number of encounters and there are some utter shits (they are people after all) but it does tell me that it isn't entirely institutionalized.

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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:56, archived)

also; taking money from News Corp employees

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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:59, archived)

yeah...

and Rodney King and that

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:18, archived)

no that was in america

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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:01, archived)

Right now I'm very glad of the police

but...I can't help noticing that when it's students, hippies and women protesting, they're all too keen to get stuck in and crack a few heads. When it's tooled-up disaffected youth rioting and looting, they get the kid gloves treatment.

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emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:00, archived)

... or that they weren't expecting such widespread disruption...

riots don't normally increase past two days... they start to tail off...

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:06, archived)

so... what you've basically said is "they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't"?

they are lambasted for heavy handedness... then lambasted for not doing enough, and the prole up and down the country is calling for the army and rubber bullets...

its all abit "very" isn't it

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:01, archived)

I think its more a question of being more critical

which is perfectly justified in my opinion considering the role police have in society and the potential power they have.

If the police can't tell the difference between a peaceful protest and a bunch of cunts smashing the place up, or a newspaper vendor walking away and a 'youth' nicking a laptop from curries then the public will be critical especially if the IPCC isn't up to the job, which it isn't.

I'm not saying I don't appreciate the job that they do

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Rebel biscuit stercore sumus et nos esse novimus, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:19, archived)

No, what I'm basically saying

is what I've said above.

The police need to be seen to obey and respect the law. If they don't, the whole thing comes unglued. You just cannot realistically expect any society to behave lawfully if the upholders of the law do not.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:25, archived)

but I do see police obeying and respecting the law

and while I read in the press about those who don't, that doesn't make me want to set fire to my neighbours house or destroy local businesses

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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:30, archived)

you very rarely hear about someone doing what they'r supposed to

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:32, archived)

apart from shooting someone

who didn't shoot at them then not telling the family about it. that's where this all started.

(prostheses, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:43, archived)

again, not belittling gross miscarriages of justice

but you cannot blame every single policeman in the country for the actions of 4 or 5 people in one specialist unit, which is what is happening.

Deal with individuals, saying "the police" are guilty is no better than saying an ethnic minority are terrorists or the way someone dresses makes him a criminal

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HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:46, archived)

Anyone who joins the police, soon learns what the police are about.

If they choose to to stay, they become complicit. Fuck them.

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4Q just lurking, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:10, archived)

My personal experience with the Police

indicates that they are complicit in helping to keep the roads safe, controlling thuggish behaviour and protecting my family members when violently intimidated by ex-husbands (among many other things, but this is only my direct experience).

That, in my view, is what they are "about" and if this is your attitude I hope that you don't ever need their services... and if you do I'm sure that they will help you out anyway.

(Captain Skippy pooed in a bag and left it on your doorstep, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:22, archived)

May be worth waiting for the inquest

If the guy had a loaded gun that he was pointing at a policeman then I'm not too sure that it is unreasonable for the policeman to fire first.

(vicarius, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:53, archived)

Yes.

That absolutely justifies violent rampages through the streets resulting in the death of at least one person, millions of pounds lost to businesses, homes destroyed and social upheaval which will quite possibly last a generation.

Or... people could just wait for the inquest which happens after every fatal shooting involving the Police, and find out what actually happened.

(Captain Skippy pooed in a bag and left it on your doorstep, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:18, archived)

"illegally kettling peaceful protests at one end of the spectrum, and illegally protecting the aims of corrupt corporations at the other"

^ this made me laugh.

This type of guardian-reader type opinion is exactly what gave the rioting scum the belief they can go about and do exactly what they want.

Kettling is a perfectly sensible idea, both to protect peaceful protestors (good), the police (good) and those infiltrators which always seen to appear in order to cause trouble (bad) - such as the Jody Macintyre types.

And, as a beat officer in an inner city, the closest i get to 'protecting the aims of corrupt corporations' is buying a big mac.

Really. Is this your honest opinion, brought about by many years of actual experience, or do you just spout the latest shit; drip fed from leftist liberal groups?

Why not consider joining up. Just see how you feel after doing a 20 hour shift, with no breaks, running around after scrotes. I suspect your world view will quickly change.

/end rant, but it's been a long week.

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Another_tragic_case wished he hadn't eaten all the cake, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:42, archived)

Join up? No thanks.

I briefly toyed with the idea of applying to join the Police force (it's a force, dammit, not a service), on the basis that if I kept muttering that "someone should do something" maybe that someone ought to be me. You know, put my money where my mouth is.

And then I thought about all the awful, awful things serving Police officers have to deal with on a daily basis, things like two-week-fermented dead bodies left to rot in a flat because the neighbours didn't give a shit, things like beheaded corpses leaking blood and other fluids into a car mangled almost beyond recognition, things like spouses and children being stabbed to death, and worse. The Police have to deal with the aftermath of people at their very worst, at their most awful, and yet are supposed to remain sane themselves.

I think it takes a special kind of strength (or maybe a special kind of psychosis) to be a good Police officer. I'm not sure I have it, but I'm profoundly grateful to those who do.

A few (quite a few) years ago I was in trouble with the law, and it was my own fault. The officer who dealt with me lied on the paperwork. If he had told the truth, I might well have gone to jail. If I'd gone to jail, however briefly, who knows where I'd be now? Certainly not in a comfortable, white-collar job, earning a decent wage and trying to be a decent uncle to my nephew. That copper exercised his discretion, and in doing so may very well have saved my life.

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flake has nothing against your right leg, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 17:04, archived)

as long as you're white and middle class...

...

(prostheses, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:46, archived)

more to do with common sense and not being fucking stupid I reckon

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:50, archived)

Sadly I just don't think that's true.

The uncomfortable fact is, in the recent past many reasonable law-abiding citizens have been illegally detained, threatened, and physically hurt for taking part in legal, peaceful protests.
Common sense tells you that if you obey the law the police will protect you, not illegally abuse you. Exercising common sense and obeying the law is no longer a guarantee of safety from the worst excesses of the police.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:05, archived)

I'm not talking about that... I'll admit the protesting/kettling thing is a difficult one to call...

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:14, archived)

But nothing happens in isolation.

As I've said above, you just cannot realistically expect any society to behave lawfully if the upholders of the law do not. Every single incidence of illegal and/or heavy-handed police activity erodes their position as upholders of peace and the rule of law a little futher. That is a dangerous thing to happen, and the current situation is in no way unrelated to that fact.
Very very clearly, there are a large number of people involved in the current situation who are just assholes looking for an opportunity to steal and destroy. But the underlying disaffected mood of many people in the UK did not appear overnight, nor did their distrust and anger at authority, and it is not entirely without cause.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:33, archived)

That is very

chicken and egg. Do the police overstep the mark causing riots, or do riots cause the police to overstep the mark?
As i rarely break the law, it doesn't seem to affect me much, which might be a clue.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:42, archived)

The answer of course is that the police must not overstep the mark.

They are there to uphold the rule of law, and if that means breaking the law themselves, then by definition that can never work, can it?
The UK is a fairly robust democracy, at least on the surface. If the current laws don't work, they can be changed.
Really though, it will make no difference if the methods of policing and enforcement do not change for the better.
If you really don't think there's a problem with current methods then I guess we're never going to find any common ground. Personally though I think there's a situation in the UK now that echoes that in some parts of the US, for instance Baltimore, where the cops are basically at war with a large section of society. You don't have to be a genius to see where that goes: it just escalates.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:57, archived)

I hear what you say.

But to quote an old cliche, with freedom comes responsibility. Yes, the police should follow the law. But so should I. And so should you. And so should Fred down the road. What right do I have to break the law then whinge if the police do the same?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:08, archived)

"Two wrongs don't make a right" comes to mind

if we're going to communicate through the medium of cliches.
It would probably be better to drop the cliches and make a nuanced argument, though. Should the police break the law, in a crisis, in order to uphold some other laws? On the face of it, that seems a logical contradiction. It says that one law is more important than the other. Then again, this is possibly true. Both ways of breaking the law are presumably undesirable, though, or supposed to be, otherwise they'd be legal. So what are you actually advocating, that the police do break the law, or that they stick to it, or that they're not treated too harshly if they break the law with good intentions? I suspect you're arguing for the last thing: which is what actually happens, for the police, and for anybody else who breaks the law with good intentions, too. I don't imagine Mofaha would be opposed to lenient treatment of people who break the law in that way, either.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:22, archived)

No, i'm not advocating that.

I believe anyone who breaks the law should face justice, police or public. What I'd like is that no-one broke the law. What i'm getting at is the criminals who say 'OK I mugged 20 old ladies but that copper hit me while I resisted arrest! The police are evil and shouldn't be allowed to do that'. Which is actually quite a common statement.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:33, archived)

So to clarify

you think the police really shouldn't be allowed to do that (assuming there's a law against it) - but they aren't evil. Is that correct?

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:36, archived)

I don't get your clarification. No, the police are not evil, and yes, if they break the law they should face the consequences. But I also don't expect them to be superheroes. I fully expect that here and there a mugger will get a punch that is illegal. I'm not a mugger so won't lose too much sleep.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:44, archived)

Just trying to work out what the disagreement was.

I thought at first you were arguing about what should or shouldn't be allowed, but now it seems more as if the subject was "how likeable are protesters?".

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:59, archived)

Absolutely.

In a just society, motive and intention would be taken into account when dispensing justice.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:53, archived)

You talk of common sense.

Common sense tells me that if you allow 5,000 angry people to wander around the streets of London trying to make a point by non democratic means, who are then joined by 'rent-a-mob' and the Socialist Worker louts, then there is going to be trouble.
Please tell, how SHOULD that be dealt with?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:27, archived)

^this

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:34, archived)

In my mind this situation is analogous

to sitting watching until the milk boils over on the stove, then panicking and calling in the fire brigade. Too much, too late.
Clearly the current situation needs to be contained, and it will be, as it always is; with increasing violence, until it becomes too dangerous and unattractive for people to take part in any more.
And then everything will go back to how it was before. Realistically, the only thing that will come out of this is tougher laws, and as an isolated solution that's never worked before, and it never will in the future, unless those laws are so severe and draconian as to allow no possibility of dissent. Do you want to live in a society like that? I suspect not.

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mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:45, archived)

agreed

i'm sat in work wondering what happened to my seemingly normal colleagues who apparently now would be happy to have a curfew in place in London backed up by the army with shoot-to-kill orders. WTF? I get the fact that people are angry and scared, but seriously, the army on the street?

(prostheses, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:48, archived)

We make the laws.

What was the turnout in Tottenham at the last general election? How many candidates were there? The ability to change society is in place. Up to you if you use it, but don't come smashing my windows if you don't and then don't like the result.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:55, archived)

Do you really believe this?

"The ability to change society is in place"

because, unless you're an ex-public school, Oxbridge-educated, silver-spoon sucking toff, it really isn't to all practical ends.

Look at the make up of Government, look at the key influencers of Goverment and legislation (step forward Mr Murdoch), look at the transfer of wealth to the top 0.5% of the population in the last 20 years, look at the level of inequality in society since the second world war (or even the first). then wonder why huge sections of society are balanced on a knife edge.

(prostheses, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:00, archived)

Damn right i believe it.

Show me where you were stopped from voting for the person of your choice, or even standing for yourself for election. Show me.

EDIT: This country allows the Monster Raving Looney Party to stand. Don't try to say you can't be represented.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:13, archived)

I hope you're being facetious.

"Democracy" doesn't work that way. In my local elections, there were no Green candidates, no MRLP. I had a choice of one LibDem, two Labour, two Tories and some crank from UKIP.

There's also the fiasco of how three votes can become the majority of ten (if the votes split 3/2/2/1/1/1 across the candidates.)

Also, what's more democratic than mob rule?

(xaer0mancer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:33, archived)

So why didn't you stand?

A vote is a privilege we are lucky enough to have in this country, but that does promote a propensity to say 'I voted' and use that as an example of (practically passive) engagement in the political process. Which it is (an engagement that is), but if you want a Green or MRLP candidate in your constituency and there isn't one, then get in touch with them and offer to stand. Instead of whining that it's so unfair that the policies you support aren't represented, represent them.

I still haven't made my mind up about AV though. It feels fair, but it also feels like nothing would get done with it in place. Maybe I'll have made up my mind by the time the referendum comes around.

Oh.

I've been listening to Ghost Town tonight.

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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:04, archived)

You can fuck off as well.

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4Q just lurking, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:04, archived)

Oh, and the mob has nothing to with democracy

as you surely know, you lovely trollomancer you.

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gingerfreak Why? Why not., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:07, archived)

So it is 'their' fault.

They are you. You are they. If you had wanted, you could have had 150 candidates. All you need to do is get off your arse, along with 149 friends, and stand. Perhaps the Green party didn't stand in your area because the Green Party knew that nobody in your area was interested in the Green Party. For good reason; the Green Party haven't a clue. As for the split vote; there was a democratic effort to change the entire voting system recently. About 30% of people bothered, and only about 10% of them understood it.
You can get off yer bum and riot, or get off yer bum and change it.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:00, archived)

Yes. Because we all have access to huge amounts of money to back our political campaigns.

We're just being feckless.

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4Q just lurking, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:12, archived)

If you are in the right

you will get plenty of support, easy. If you are in the wrong, the people with money might not support you. Tell me your policies. Tell everyone. Let us see if everyone agrees. Most people on here have an icon, so have disposable cash.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 1:42, archived)

Damn fucking straight you are

If you have a problem get up off your arse and solve it. Sundae is spot on, its not someone else's problem. It's yours.

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Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:14, archived)

How true :)

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Jahled Three shades of black, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:27, archived)

Well you've started a thread with some srs biznz in it up there....!!I

I'v read it all so far and opinions do vary....
I'm not going to comment on the picture at all...
But my comment for the entire thread is......
I'm happier that we have policemen then I would be if we didn't.

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:40, archived)

they're alright on their own

it's when they get together in their gangs that they're trouble :(

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cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:10, archived)

Here Here...

...now let them do their job and smack these airheads around the back of the head with their big stick. Not allowing them to do so infringes on my human rights.

(billiepipersteeth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:24, archived)

That's a bit long winded

How about.

"The Police! Don't be too surprised if they behave like cunts"

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Ring Of Fire A petty, drooling belming butthurt retard., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:59, archived)

Vnice:D

(herman:D, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:05, archived)

...

I love it when the police complain about mountains of paperwork....
If there predecessors' hadn't been such racist bastards in past none of paperwork would of been needed.

(derlin9753, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:45, archived)

FUCK OFF

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4Q just lurking, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:01, archived)

I fucking love this board.

Just sayin'

(dingomart thought he was fluent in bile, just not like this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:09, archived)

A bit late, I know

But this is more than a wee bit awesome

Bobbies have been demonised recently, I don't get it... it seems that the stock response when anything kicks off now is to blame the police. How do people expect them to do their jobs when they received no support from the communities they are sworn to protect...

This country has things backwards and a lot of its people really should take a long, hard look at themselves

(Fenristhewolf ..back once again on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:45, archived)

OI! Some of us mentals get very upset about the bad press.

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FeralCatMan Unusual disease collector., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 14:15, archived)

Brilliant ...

Feel the love.

(Puckish, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 16:24, archived)

What a coincidence.

I like beating up police and old ladies.

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Zak McFlimby Twibbling @McFlimby, Thu 11 Aug 2011, 9:27, archived)

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:18, archived)

VAG OF FIRE

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:20, archived)

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:22, archived)

Nice... I hope you make some good money out of these.....

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:24, archived)

...what is this...'money'...you speak of?

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:33, archived)

Not seen any myself..... but I have heard others talk about it.....

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:40, archived)

Oh...that's what artists get...when they die.

...Oh boy...can't wait for that!

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:44, archived)

Way too go....! Picaso, Dali, Van gogh....they would've been loaded with a few advance sales..!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:53, archived)

blade mace

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:26, archived)

Croydon at night?

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JollyJack - a stench from the past, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:22, archived)

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:26, archived)

elderly badger having a kip

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:31, archived)

Wears out clicking finger...

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:33, archived)

This is fucking ace.....

You got a linky for a big one?

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:23, archived)

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:24, archived)

lovely seaweeds!

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:26, archived)

That is all...

...........................back to looting...

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:29, archived)

loot me a big telly, would you?

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:31, archived)

I'm just grabbin' da Michael Jordons yo.

Get a game o B-ball n hoops on da courtside fresh.

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:36, archived)

i know he's saying something

but i'm afraid i just can't understand it.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:37, archived)

Shoes, basketball, fresh.

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:38, archived)

ah, i see

and now i must attend to my soup.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:40, archived)

As I to my porn collection............... o/

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:46, archived)

Planetstorm looks like underwater.... nice again...

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:32, archived)

Nicely

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:26, archived)

Tubgirl?

But nice all the same.

(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:20, archived)

So.........Angry..........

These two must be found and beaten to within an inch of their lives.

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JollyJack - a stench from the past, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:10, archived)

i applaud our local arachnid vigilantes

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:11, archived)

POW! RIGHT IN THE KISSERS!

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:11, archived)

haha

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

Spider and Scorpion

should replace Cameron & Clegg

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Joliet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

We bin drinkin all night, innit.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

Rosé for breakfast

very continental

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:14, archived)

What ever's in the can... it looks like it came as a bit of a surprise...

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:20, archived)

monkey beer

it's not for girls.

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new_matt, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:24, archived)

WHAT?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:26, archived)

clean and crisp

but not for ladies. i don't make the rules.

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new_matt, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:30, archived)

I make the rules. OK?

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:33, archived)

We need to have sex to discuss these things.

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:38, archived)

Pfft.

If that's meant to be threatening, you're aim's a bit off to the left luv.

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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:38, archived)

she's got a clean shot

on the plant on my windowsill though.

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new_matt, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:39, archived)

She is aiming

at your kitten.

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:41, archived)

I think the monkey mey have been lying about the beer bit.....

If the expession is anything to go by..!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:30, archived)

WOMAN?! ON THE INTERNET!?

LIES!

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:36, archived)

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:37, archived)

*Wears badge with pride*

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:38, archived)

good girl

;)

(likeajackhammer, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:39, archived)

*prints badge out, for... erm... research processes*

(Troutman Roflcocks A glass of port... don't mind if I do., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:50, archived)

More of this.

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:13, archived)

KABEEEEM

(LittleTerryFuckwit Check out my gavel pits. Judge me., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:14, archived)

COZ LIKE RICH PPL GOT SHOPS INNIT

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Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:15, archived)

^that was the point at which I lost the will to live...

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The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:17, archived)

To be so thick to think that anyone who owns a business

IZ LIKE RICH INNIT.. Time for a population cull

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Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:25, archived)

I think I'll go and read a Daily Mail comment section

really wallow in stupidity for a bit

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Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:29, archived)

Now there are people who aren't very bright, who get on just fine.

And then there are people who are so wilfully fucking ignorant it should be a crime to let them out at all.

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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:35, archived)

If only this could be true.. !

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:21, archived)

fully agreed and nice cartoon to express what the majority of people feel about idiots like this.

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knockear - I socialise with x-ray eyes. Jam on it!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:25, archived)

Yes

this

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emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:43, archived)

This is an excellent observation

marred only by the amount of idiots who appear to actually think that shooting is a resonable response to thickos nicking stuff.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:48, archived)

I do believe the thugs would have dispersed if a hail of rubber bullets had been fired into them, yes.

You have to agree that there's something seriously wrong with society when you've got a city in flames and people STILL suggesting the police hold back.

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JollyJack - a stench from the past, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:56, archived)

When did not shooting large groups of citizens

become 'holding back'?

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 17:18, archived)

Probably when people started robbin' an' lootin' an' burning

Although it is a neat reminder of the Good Old Days - when everything was good and people were shot by the police all the time...

J. Stalin

(IdlePeAcEsign if trouble were my mistress, i'd send her to them, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:59, archived)

Not having respect and/or fear of the police has caused a lot of this.

If they knew they would have to pay for their actions, they wouldn't be doing it.

(Wize, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:49, archived)

excellent

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cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:21, archived)

Oh I JUST found that and posted it on /links

beat me to it by hours AND made a damn fine point mate.

Chavscum, this time it's war!

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..wil, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 18:53, archived)

yes, I find shooting uneducated people from the lower classes to be a great idea too.

Why stop there? Anyone who isn't as rich and educated as me or my mates should be shot in the face too. Do a cartoon about that.

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:49, archived)

Yesss,

mind if I just leave this here?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gYD_LLFTQU

(IdlePeAcEsign if trouble were my mistress, i'd send her to them, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 23:02, archived)

Yeh except chavs CHOOSE to be uneducated and poor and on benefits and in a council house,

that way they pay for nothing, get everything for free and can cry victim at every criticism of them spending all day on drugs blasting music out their window.

If they wanted to they could go to school, read books, get a job, go to college and make something of themselves, but they don't want to, because their way is easier and more fun.

This is NOT the working class being a victim of circumstance, this is a lifestyle choice by SOME of the lower classes that means you have nothing to lose and can do whatever you like with no possible consequences as you have nothing anyone can take off you and others will pay for it and pick up the pieces, we have a minimum amount of social care in this country that includes enough money to live on and a house to live in, free health care and clothing etc and you cannot fall any lower than that, and these people abuse that fact.

They are not underprivileged, they are OVER privileged and have no appreciation of what a great country this is to provide that or where the money and things they get for free come from, they just want more cool stuff like other people have.

They are anti-social feral scum outside of all normal social rules as we understand them, we've been breeding them on council estates for decades and now they feel their numbers are great enough to take over and do what they like outside of their estates.

Begun, the chav war has.

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..wil, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:37, archived)

This.

Very, very, this.

(fridgefreezer inserted a topical reference into his sig on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 15:22, archived)

Uhuh...

Yes. Right there with you.

(IdlePeAcEsign if trouble were my mistress, i'd send her to them, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 22:54, archived)

I approve of this image 110%

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Haku Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 2:09, archived)

(Peter_G, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:02, archived)

(7 hours left to save Earth, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:54, archived)

Pardon me, young chap, but do they have any medium chinos in there?

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:56, archived)

i say, you there!

could i possibly borrow your brick? i'm just popping down to Fortnum's

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:57, archived)

In addition to posh bloke out of place

Meet brave lady who speaks the truth
www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SHKhvVjLIc

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:01, archived)

and in a more fatuous TJ

Ellie Crisell is now reading the grown-up news. *pervs*

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:03, archived)

Mmm

Ellie

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:05, archived)

Gotta love the guy pushing his bike along wearing high vis....

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s-drop take it to the bridge, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:06, archived)

You have to wonder what he was doing there.

(Peter_G, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:04, archived)

'any of you lovely chaps supporting Hugh's Fish Fight?'

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riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:09, archived)

he's starting to look old

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

I've got a fiver on the turbot. KO in the 3rd round

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

Tim nice but dim?

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s-drop take it to the bridge, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:16, archived)

Vigilante beaten in central London :(

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Peregr1n @peregr1n, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:49, archived)

r u ken?

(LittleTerryFuckwit Check out my gavel pits. Judge me., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:16, archived)

badman got rice!

Anyone else seen this? Of all the things to loot, he chose Tesco value rice.
Sorry its rough and cuffy, did it on my phone

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s-drop take it to the bridge, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:48, archived)

Yep. And the people coming out of Poundland...

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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:50, archived)

It would be really funny if they had all left £1 on the counter as they ran out

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:52, archived)

that's what made me laugh about 28 Days Later

they looted Budgens, of all places, then left a credit card at the checkout!

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:54, archived)

Me doing my version........I'm not a looter just a chef, and yes, that is glengetty tea....cracking brew

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s-drop take it to the bridge, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:02, archived)

Did you loose your two fingers in a kitchen accident?.!!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:05, archived)

Naah its a gun innit

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s-drop take it to the bridge, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:10, archived)

*fingerguns*

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:12, archived)

Euphemism for your favorite hobby that is... !!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:15, archived)

heheheh

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:17, archived)

Pointing a gun at tea....!! ,, you bad man. ;-)

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:13, archived)

1) Ahahaha! Brilliant

2) Tea!
3) Would

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Joliet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:14, archived)

Point at da brand name foo'!

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:28, archived)

He'd struggle to carry anything bigger.... he's only got two fucking fingers...!!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:04, archived)

Like white on rice.

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:06, archived)

Yeah, cos my bruv sez da police iz takin away our rice, innit lahk.

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joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:28, archived)

Loots the Bandwagon and sets it on fire

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:40, archived)

Is Christopher Eccleston in this one?

Or the overrated shortarse Robert Carlise?

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:41, archived)

Yes

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:42, archived)

Eccleston in 28 Days

Carlisle in 28 Weeks

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:42, archived)

So which Scottish Thespian

is in this third film?

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:45, archived)

Christopher Lambert?

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Flipao, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:47, archived)

fuck knows

i'm not really IMDB, i just like to pretend

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:48, archived)

I like to pretend I'm a woman sometimes

You know, the whole push the old feller between my thighs routine.

It rubs the lotion on it's skin otherise it gets the hose

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:51, archived)

i like to pretend i'm an eskimo

and wrap myself up in many blankets.
no lotion is required for this.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:56, archived)

Mmm

Snug

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:59, archived)

do you want us to find a cure and save the world

or just fall in love and fuck?

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:41, archived)

second one please

without the FIL bit.

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camp freddy well, would you look at that!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:54, archived)

i'm washing my hair tonight

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:55, archived)

I always use that euphemism too

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:07, archived)

pfff

i actually am, though

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:10, archived)

Yeah best way to chill out hope you have loads of booze and good dvd to watch

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:13, archived)

bottle of wine

and the day of the dead remake

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:15, archived)

nice

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:20, archived)

haha nice

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:53, archived)

haha now I wish I had thought of that

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:58, archived)

...

(spinoza, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:37, archived)

*puts kettle on*

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:39, archived)

i'm amazed it fits

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:43, archived)

the spout is a bit tight

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:51, archived)

THIS IS LOVELY AND DESERVES MORE REPLIES

sorry caps lock..........

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camp freddy well, would you look at that!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:10, archived)

very lovely

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cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:36, archived)

One last job

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Flipao, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:22, archived)

Haha.... but we need the new mean batman that will just waste them..!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:24, archived)

haha go on del boy!

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:25, archived)

nicely!

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:27, archived)

stick that in your utility belt, fucker!

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:33, archived)

Chateauneuf du Pape!

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Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:37, archived)

Hahaha, yes!

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Lord Kronos Go Team Pachyderm, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:23, archived)

Second picture down.

Photographer with blue jeans, thats me y'know!

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Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:34, archived)

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JollyJack - a stench from the past, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:12, archived)

Are they in London....

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:16, archived)

In the last frame, why do those look like the tips of wings of TIE Interceptors to me? :D

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theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:16, archived)

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JollyJack - a stench from the past, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:24, archived)

OMFG SPOILERS!!!!1!!1!

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Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:27, archived)

they're clearly xenomorph eggs

silly star wars-obsessed person

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:29, archived)

Bats with tits?

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Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:17, archived)

bwits!

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:18, archived)

*spluffs*

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Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:26, archived)

Not as sexy

As it first appeared in my mind

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:39, archived)

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Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:02, archived)

I do hope so...

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Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:48, archived)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q0GdrJDz0

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:17, archived)

now THAT'S timing

just what i need after a bad day

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:18, archived)

Why what's up? had they got no swimming costumes left at JD sport...!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:23, archived)

arf!

no, no sleep last night, early-morning injection,shopping, bill-paying, followed by getting headbutted in the cheekbone by one hypweractive twin and smacked in the nose by a ball thrown by the other hyperactive twin. i'm currently making a giant pan of soup, before doing the housework, having a shower and settling down to watch day of the dead with a glass of wine.

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:26, archived)

Eeks.. at least you can look forward to a happy rest of the day.....

But with the luck you're having....just make sure you don't knock you wine glass over on to the dvd player and break it as you rush to stove to turn it off as you can smell your soup burning and bubbling over making a mess of your cooker and recking your kitchen carpet...!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:34, archived)

believe me, i'm well aware of how clumsy i am

which is why i'm not having a drink until the soup is done, the dvd player is at least 5 feet away from the coffee table and i have cushioned flooring in the kitchen and everywhere else!

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:38, archived)

All planed to perfection... ;-)

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:49, archived)

i bloody hope so

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Smash Monkey lowering the tone of the whole internet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:50, archived)

LOL

unidentified things in hole ROFL

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emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:19, archived)

You could just Ignore him if you wanted...

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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:23, archived)

I did for a while

but then he still showed up on "Friends' Activity" if any of my friends liked his posts, and reading SA sporadically like that is even more confusing than trying to follow it on /board

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emvee cruor deo cruoris, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:28, archived)

Your friends activity tells you what your friends like?

Mine doesn't.... all mine does is show me if they've started a new thread, is mine broken? is it meant to do more than that or something?

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:37, archived)

Maybe your friends don't like anything.

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Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:44, archived)

There's a "share what you like" option in "update your profile"

which defaults to off. So you only see what people like if they've set it to on.

(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:50, archived)

Ar yes... penny drops...!!

Didn't know that's what he meant.... thanks :-)

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:54, archived)

go into your own profile settings and check to see if you are sharing what you like with your friends. If that is enabled, you can see what your friends like too

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theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:51, archived)

Thanks ;-)

Felix pipped just you to the post..

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:55, archived)

stop criticising things you don't like

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:31, archived)

I feel the denizens are badly under-utilised in this webcomix

I propose the resurrection of Jack to liven things up a bit.

Also I've missed a lot of episodes so might need to catch up. brb.

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Barbarossa is not my real name, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:22, archived)

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:06, archived)

AAAAHHHH!

Declare a state of emergency!

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Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:09, archived)

Wonderful!

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:09, archived)

HAHAHA....it's forgot to cover it's face

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Elvis impersonator, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:09, archived)

Damn, he's fast!

Whoosh with the 0.04 delay

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:09, archived)

haha! superb

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:11, archived)

Ha ha

Who was it said they were safe living by the coast?

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fuscous, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:11, archived)

Yes!

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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:11, archived)

first ACTULOL of the day!

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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:12, archived)

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:15, archived)

Hahaha

Nippy little bugger, ain't he?

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boris the spider, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:16, archived)

yea had to optimise it to buggery :)

prodigy69.co.uk/pics/animations/birdriotsbig.gif

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:22, archived)

After playing with ImageReady

It seems to run much better at 0.1 delay on every frame and file size is 275kb (When viewed with Firefox)

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:26, archived)

yea i already fixed it ;)

cheers anyhoo

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:33, archived)

Haha....Yay... silly seagul thinks news agent is JD sport....!!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:17, archived)

Or Currys

Or McDonalds or GAME

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:29, archived)

Indeed.... JD does seem to be the prefered option though....

I live in Nottingham.... they went straight for the JD there... but didn't get in... so went on the rampage instead... in one incident reported, they broke a womans window and damaged one of her ornaments..!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:43, archived)

Ornaments?

Is that a Euphemism for tits or one of her internal organs, such as Kidney?

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:47, archived)

Tis true...!!

"The window has been boarded up and she has taken the day off to clean up the mess. As well as the smashed window, an ornament was damaged"

www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/Copycat-rioters-bring-terror-damage-city/story-13097362-detail/story.html

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:02, archived)

Get him up before the beak!

Woo!

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Ian Woosnam, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:32, archived)

reddit

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yanmania... last shagged your mum on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:37, archived)

indeed

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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:03, archived)

what?

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:25, archived)

Corrupt! Absolutely!

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atomic A-bomb-a-nation, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:15, archived)

See, it's not just lads,

it's gulls as well.

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Lord Kronos Go Team Pachyderm, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:25, archived)

i actually think it hasn't been Quoed yet. Have a police/tea related one.

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riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:01, archived)

There's a quick Quo down there

b3ta.com/board/10503359

(User #86772, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:05, archived)

Billie Piper?

Or have we had this discussion already?

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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:08, archived)

Why is she holding a magenta fleshlight?

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:10, archived)

If she puts it down somone might nick it.

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Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:11, archived)

not typically though

www.b3ta.com/board/10503359

EDIT: just noticed Dmandrakes reply, i really need to refresh more.

(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:13, archived)

If that don't work... send in police armed with kittens....!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:19, archived)

I'll stick this here...

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Monsieur Monster I heard Seriously talk the first time. in here., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:30, archived)

(barring the hedgehogs) is that real?

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Extinct Jesus Dossier "...I think it counteracts Hitler's magic...", Tue 9 Aug 2011, 16:06, archived)

Yep!

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Monsieur Monster I heard Seriously talk the first time. in here., Tue 9 Aug 2011, 20:01, archived)

Dirty looters!!!

(jakeeeee, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:56, archived)

What's wrong with being gay?

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FIEND, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:57, archived)

Colin and Justin

I rest my case.

(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:58, archived)

case closed.

NEXT!

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prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:59, archived)

What's the difference between gay bondage and heterosexual bondage?

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:59, archived)

ribbons?

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:01, archived)

more wincing?

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real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:01, archived)

Gay bondage is happier.

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Saner, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:01, archived)

I would imagine

It is a more flattering cut.

(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:03, archived)

A bottle of evian?

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Wildyles is back to rimming chimps, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:03, archived)

That would be an ecumenical matter

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fuscous, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:07, archived)

^ winnar

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J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:10, archived)

4 pints is the average I think....

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:22, archived)

Cobra Meeting went well

"Remember guys, dodge, duck, dip dive and dodge!!"

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Silentbob, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:53, archived)

hahahahaha

hahahahahahaha

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:54, archived)

those are some pretty inaccurate star trek outfits

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taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:55, archived)

Hahaha!

This'll sort it!

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Joliet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:00, archived)

Blade... Laser..... Blazer

Genius

(Lurchio, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:02, archived)

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Elvis impersonator, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:10, archived)

Nicely!

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Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:26, archived)

Get a real job!

Bloody Traffic Wardens

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:52, archived)

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Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:45, archived)

I bet riot police have hours of fun

lining themselves up to spell out rude words

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Photoshop Bitch 2014 edition, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:46, archived)

Ho ho!

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:46, archived)

I think it's a missed opportunity that their combined helmets don't spell anything naughty

in your image or in real life

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:46, archived)

Good point

well made

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Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:48, archived)

Looks like we're gonna have to put our pants on again!

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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:46, archived)

Don't be silly

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:52, archived)

It's a good job ashally, they are due a monthly wash.

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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:54, archived)

hahaha

i'm playing countdown looking at the police helmets

(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:47, archived)

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Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:49, archived)

ha ha ha

Have a click

(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:52, archived)

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mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:00, archived)

Bloke in the centre is saying 'pull my finger'

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riverghost servicing your mum since, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:02, archived)

Yes!

Woo! Yay!

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Joliet, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:01, archived)

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:42, archived)

Hahaha!

Everybody knows akimbo pistols are for noobs!

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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:43, archived)

I hope everyone just saw Boris being humiliated on his return to London

heehee

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:45, archived)

I thought he was always being humiliated?

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Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:48, archived)

Just 'cos...

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barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:44, archived)

i like to dance too

(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:50, archived)

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XLVII .uk, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:44, archived)

yeeeah get dahn

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:53, archived)

ready to phuck some jiggaz up

(Rattlehead all time with the gay, forever touching, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:47, archived)

jigga pleez, boris be the big wankfuck in dis jiggashit

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:51, archived)

Boris Johnson?

I thought you were dead?

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PFC Hudson, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:57, archived)

Call me Boris

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drbroon abloooobloobloo, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 14:58, archived)

Haha... this is what we need.... but with more guns.....!!

(The invisable man Is having a long lazy soak in search, Tue 9 Aug 2011, 15:27, archived)

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