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length? Pah - nothing exceeds like
excess.

;)
*edit* zoom up and down with your vertical scroll tab for extra effect..
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*edit* zoom up and down with your vertical scroll tab for extra effect..

I hadn't noticed that - they stand still.
the universe is at it again....
oh. now they're moving.
:@ o
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the universe is at it again....
oh. now they're moving.
:@ o

if you're not, why?
it's excellent, really it is, but... if it's not for getting drunk in what's it for?
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it's excellent, really it is, but... if it's not for getting drunk in what's it for?

it's for a competition. You have to remake a film but in a kind of crappy way.
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is a combination of model work (made of egg boxes), these x wing costumes running round a park and sets made of sofas and christmas lights.
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This is like year 9 art standards, if a kid gave a crap, top stuff.
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on the one hand, it'd look cool painted, but on the other hand.... it's just funny made of boxes
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and there's big triangles with exclamation marks on the wings
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It's the way of creating a base to paint over without making it big. However, that may make it look good and probably less crappy.
I think it does have a sort of nice thing with it just being boxes too though. Make a death star run with boxes, or is it just a small space you're using, like an alleyway?
EDIT: I mean I suggest papier mache and you probably know that anyway. I'd just do that if I were to paint it, but then it may lose the shape it has.
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I think it does have a sort of nice thing with it just being boxes too though. Make a death star run with boxes, or is it just a small space you're using, like an alleyway?
EDIT: I mean I suggest papier mache and you probably know that anyway. I'd just do that if I were to paint it, but then it may lose the shape it has.

i think the plan is to have the tie fighter/x wing dog fights as people running about in the park and the approach to the trench done through model work with a card "x wing view finder" over the top of the camera. We want to recreate the actual shots used in the film...
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Be sure to really badly match two shots as it passes into the trench and unsuccessfully attempt to hide the join with a laser flash. Then repeat said dodgy moment twice so we can all make sure it was indeed dodgy.
*shot not included on Lucased 'Fcuked about with it' versions.
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*shot not included on Lucased 'Fcuked about with it' versions.

I think i've got the originals on dvd.
Not the original originals though, otherwise New Hope would just be called Star Wars
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Not the original originals though, otherwise New Hope would just be called Star Wars

I have taped videos going back to the mid 90s, but then my video sodded up a while back, so I have to work with itv showings of the newer versions.
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but it is a bit of a lie, I actually have it on video before anything was done to correct all the problems they had with the tech in the first one, all the garbage matts, bad colour matching, transparencies and 'blurro vision' under the land speeder and such, all still intact, and not evident in this 'original' version, also the sound is very cleaned up, I think it's taken from the early 'Laser Disc' version, but shot for shot it is identical, so not bad.
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How about characters in it, like Luke and Darth etc? Will you show the Close ups of them inside, I mean.
I look forward to seeing the result.
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I look forward to seeing the result.

so just them in the costume i think will be good enough.
I'm not sure how to do darth yet. I could either go for the comedy "box on head with angry face drawn on it" or make an actual mask and costume out of card with detail..
i'm tempted by the latter
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I'm not sure how to do darth yet. I could either go for the comedy "box on head with angry face drawn on it" or make an actual mask and costume out of card with detail..
i'm tempted by the latter

You could have tie pilots as well, if you want to go into it.
I think a Darth mask would add to it. But it wouldn't take anything away if you didn't want to include it.
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I think a Darth mask would add to it. But it wouldn't take anything away if you didn't want to include it.

So Kentuky bucket on head (front cut out) with a pair of sunglasses and a builders dust mask underneath, cape made of binbag, maybe a bit of shoulder pads/chest box/marigolds painted black, but not too well done or the joke doesn't work.
Be sure to do lots of hand motions that don't match your dubbing
*points dramatically for some length after sentence ends*
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Be sure to do lots of hand motions that don't match your dubbing
*points dramatically for some length after sentence ends*

I think time will be a factor as well, as there's a deadline.
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for instance the fact that Vader in the original couldn't actually move his shoulders, turn his head or raise his arms kinda made him a shite enemy for a sword fight, he should be real easy to beat, just run behind him or get above him, tah dah, like original daleks and stairs, he's fucked!
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For lack of neck turns, see any Doctor who monster, especially the cybermen in the 80's :D
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They were all one piece at one stage, from teh head right down to the chest plate, the poor feckers could barely move!
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pfft. Says the man with a cone for a nose :P

Ignore my statement, Make things and have fun :D
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Or at least it would be, if I had a school. Damnit, why don't I have a school? I'd be the only person in it, and I could run around the
corridors shouting "I ROOL THE SKOOL"
*adds to list of things to do when I win thelottery daily mail tax*
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corridors shouting "I ROOL THE SKOOL"
*adds to list of things to do when I win the

I'd also buy a super duper car
and change my name by deed poll to "Fantastic McSlacks"
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and change my name by deed poll to "Fantastic McSlacks"

that last part isn't expensive. DOO ITT! DOOO EEEEEETT! *Arnies*
www.solarisedesign.co.uk/deedpoll.php
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www.solarisedesign.co.uk/deedpoll.php

I rather like this!
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you are the guitarist for Guns and Roses AICMFP ; D

That is time very well spent!! Hurry up and finish it!
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;)
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That is perhaps the twattiest thing I've ever seen.
Well done!
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Well done!

But the front end currently looks a bit knob-like. You may want to adjust that slightly.
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because the actual x wings look the same. Just giant cocks!
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I'm going to have to take a closer look...
EDIT: bloody hell, you're not wrong. My innocent childhood now sullied. Ta.
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EDIT: bloody hell, you're not wrong. My innocent childhood now sullied. Ta.

the index of farmyard animals? Bekindrewind? The hulk?
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is she correct?
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was it the dirty house that gave it away? The beard? Or the young face?
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until yesterday when i went in and asked for some buckets for a "project".
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to be honest :)
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i did it in the afternoon after my exams finished. I've done nothing but work for the last month with no weekends!
And as an architecture student, I work more hours than people with jobs without getting paid!
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And as an architecture student, I work more hours than people with jobs without getting paid!

'A limited edition of collectible buffy inspired plushies', for example.
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but not frightening, deviant and existing on the fringes of society, inflicting their weird ways on the rest of us
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I want to be prepared.
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I'm excellent thanks, we've got a pleasant snow cover.
means getting drunk tonight in Manchester will be interesting regarding getting home haha.
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means getting drunk tonight in Manchester will be interesting regarding getting home haha.

I now have sweet corn juice in my
keyboard.
Woo!
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keyboard.
Woo!

... if they were dead (ie- Pacman had eaten them) then they'd be blue, not coloured. Nyer!
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Makes no apologies for giving attention to detail. Wakka wakka.
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thus dead.
And when pac-man eats them they become slightly deader (but only temporarily)
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And when pac-man eats them they become slightly deader (but only temporarily)

Considered a career in the NHS at all?
It still matters, so... wakka wakka wakka
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It still matters, so... wakka wakka wakka

what happens when pacman eats a pill? what happens when pacman eats a ghost?
you are afool
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you are afool

groan :D
in other news: apple confirm they have demented sense of humour as they release a limited edition michael jackson version of the ipod touch.
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in other news: apple confirm they have demented sense of humour as they release a limited edition michael jackson version of the ipod touch.

1: read www.virginmedia.com/tvradio/ondemand/music-on-demand-thriller-comp.php
2: weep
3: profit
4: touch
unsure if its commercially avaliable, but virgin are doing a compo to win a thriller limited ed. pod touch :)
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2: weep
3: profit
4: touch
unsure if its commercially avaliable, but virgin are doing a compo to win a thriller limited ed. pod touch :)

unresponded-to.
keep it up! You'll get there!
maybe try adding a kitten...
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Sat 2 Feb 2008, 13:33,
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keep it up! You'll get there!
maybe try adding a kitten...

But.... BIGGGAAAA plz :P
Plus at least 14kb over the limit... tut
Edit: ahh, mucho better for the eyes
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Plus at least 14kb over the limit... tut
Edit: ahh, mucho better for the eyes

Don't forget the 3kb change
edit: are you viewing b3ta on your mobile phone?
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edit: are you viewing b3ta on your mobile phone?

i used to have a zx81 - it was fantastic - with touch sensitive keys :D
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in 3kb or less (actually i thought it was 5kb!) :D
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I wouldn't want it to cover more than a quarter of my screen width
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i work at full screen so things often look different small :D
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Awesome. When i'm a big Hollywood movie director i'm getting you to do my poster art.
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does a little dance!! :D
i've not done a lot of horror recently - been trying a lot of other stuff. not that anyone but me likes it :D
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i've not done a lot of horror recently - been trying a lot of other stuff. not that anyone but me likes it :D

it was this girl little-spazstock.deviantart.com/art/Red-Head-14-76047631
:)
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:)

That's the first thing I looked for too!
Ning hairy bum :D
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Ning hairy bum :D

*checks for cameras in the playroom*
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www.b3ta.com/links/156164
edit: er, I'm not stalking you or owt - that was your reply to my links post. ahem.
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edit: er, I'm not stalking you or owt - that was your reply to my links post. ahem.

When I hit puberty I got the hairy arse and legs, but the rest of me stayed hairless as a plucked chicken till late in my 30s! I looked like I was wearing hairy jodhpurs! I must be one of the few guys who was greateful to get a hairy chest and belly just 'cos it balanced things out a tad!
TMI?
*edit* It's OK, I just forgot I posted that, nice vid BTW, tho I feel for the poor victim, whomever it were.
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TMI?
*edit* It's OK, I just forgot I posted that, nice vid BTW, tho I feel for the poor victim, whomever it were.

Pan's Syndrome I named it
TMI?
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TMI?

a man with as little shame as I might actually grant them.
and I rather doubt anyone would thank me...
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and I rather doubt anyone would thank me...

inbetween renders ;-( Not sure I can get away with a pro job at work. double ;-(
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not bad for a dog
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but meh, I liked the man and his "OMGLOLSMALLHAND ROFFLE" wily ways.
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you can't stop dying (or your partner/offspring), but you can try and help others from the same fate, makes you feel your winning even tho...
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is an awareness no one can really be sure how they will handle, what you just said isn't such a bad thing
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As far as I know, he did a lot of work for Leukaemia before he ironically (in hindsight) became ill with it himself.
I hated his television and personally felt that the 'Beadle's About' programmes were offensive and that they cost lives, but as a man, Jeremy did a lot of good, had a really shit time of it over the last few years, but most of all, worked so hard in a career which most people with Poland Syndrome would have considered closed to them.
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I hated his television and personally felt that the 'Beadle's About' programmes were offensive and that they cost lives, but as a man, Jeremy did a lot of good, had a really shit time of it over the last few years, but most of all, worked so hard in a career which most people with Poland Syndrome would have considered closed to them.

How? Did someone finally snap and start stabbing fake builders?
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Going for Gold mic man and former game for a laugh host Henry of Kelly III.
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Did it used to follow Neighbours?
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and why we were always late to afternoon lessons ;)
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A quiz based on finding the european champion when the whole game was in English, meaning foreign competitors had an immediate hurdle to clear.
Truly bizarre.
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Truly bizarre.

in the last years of the show, so that it was only british contestants who were representing their counties.
I hate that show but I have fond memories of watching it with my grandparents. And the Archimedes-generated graphics were kinda cool for their time.
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I hate that show but I have fond memories of watching it with my grandparents. And the Archimedes-generated graphics were kinda cool for their time.

They worked together early on, I forget the name of the program, Just For Laughs or something like that
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Yeh, used to watch that - I thought that pic up there was John Noakes at first
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Was early 'candid camera' stylee stoof if I recall correctly...
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"Go up like what?"
"WOOF!"
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"WOOF!"

Did you see the disclaimer at the end of the DVD about Keith Laird?
A real fire inspector who, "absolutely did not interfere with dogs".
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A real fire inspector who, "absolutely did not interfere with dogs".

It's on the Phoenix Night one too.
And it's on the Channel 4 repeats.
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And it's on the Channel 4 repeats.

Needs more "pffftt".
Excellent shop but an OUTSTANDING game.
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Excellent shop but an OUTSTANDING game.

but I would like to take this opportunity to try and goad Archie into posting a reply.
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Also, lol at immature humour :D

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Oh me one-eyed trouser snake,
Oh me one-eyed trouser snake.
God help me if I ever lost
Me one-eyed trouser snake.
this is where i stole these lyrics from:
www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4377#579273
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Oh me one-eyed trouser snake.
God help me if I ever lost
Me one-eyed trouser snake.
this is where i stole these lyrics from:
www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4377#579273

Of it would have mauled it's tail off by now!
Woo.
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Woo.

Sounds like the antagonist in a cheap 80s sci fi movie!
I have to make this now.
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I have to make this now.


Nothing big or clever just joining in... (

Sticky pen syndrome?
Never mind... have this:

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Sat 2 Feb 2008, 12:04,
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Never mind... have this:


Photoshop does not want!
I had a second bash at it, see above...
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I had a second bash at it, see above...

:-)
cunt
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cunt

my very first animation that I ever made.

seems dangerously bendy, but never mind.
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seems dangerously bendy, but never mind.

zis is ferry ammuzink!!
I decided mine should maintain the traditions of the CDC I've made better since.
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I decided mine should maintain the traditions of the CDC I've made better since.

i did try and make an animated crab for the crab compo but got bored and never finished it.
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EDIT: Right, what should a shop today? I am lacking inspiration.
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is full of awesome. "I asked them for a railing, but they said we might lean on it..."
"Play that same song!"
Winner.
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"Play that same song!"
Winner.

but it is very cool.
I think you should shop something a long long time ago yet somehow still in the future...
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I think you should shop something a long long time ago yet somehow still in the future...

According to wiki
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and not the other way around.
Also, woo.
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Also, woo.

How exactly does own work on a polaroid? Apart from pressing the button?
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was taken on a 5X4 view camera on a 6 minute exposure and an aperture of f.32. its part of a set of dystopian night landscapes.
if your not a photographer all that means is that it was a bunch of effort
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if your not a photographer all that means is that it was a bunch of effort

The shopping trolleys are used as cheap taxis, you take them home with your shopping, bash them to bits to get your pound back, then leave them in the street for the kids to ride them into peoples cars.
Fun for all teh family...
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Fun for all teh family...

I shit mesen everytime we get a driving visitor and I hear the children 'playing'.
often followed by the sounds of stuff breaking
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often followed by the sounds of stuff breaking

it strikes me as being somewhat pretentious
it's not the tools y'know it's really not
you say you've created a dystopian night landscape, I see a picture of a bus stop
I expect I'd understand it if I had a degree or something
and I wouldn't call myself a photographer, I just take photos of things
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it's not the tools y'know it's really not
you say you've created a dystopian night landscape, I see a picture of a bus stop
I expect I'd understand it if I had a degree or something
and I wouldn't call myself a photographer, I just take photos of things

you try taking that on a digital, won't look the same its the colour cast
also thats only one of a set so the general feeling is lost a bit
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also thats only one of a set so the general feeling is lost a bit

but can't you change the settings on most digital SLRs so that they mimic the colours of most films? That, and tattyshop will help out. Seems to me that if you use film, you limit yourself to what the film can do. Digital you can play with all day long.
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but 5X4 cameras with digital backs are massively expensive and you just can't get the quality or aperture from a DSLR
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my nikon can happily do a 32 aperture and six minute exposure
admitiedly, I'd have to hold down the button for 6 minutes, but nonetheless
/edit if you think I'm getting mouthy, please let me know, I'm having a very stressful day in work, I'm quitting smoking and my cat is dying so I may well be over-reacting
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admitiedly, I'd have to hold down the button for 6 minutes, but nonetheless
/edit if you think I'm getting mouthy, please let me know, I'm having a very stressful day in work, I'm quitting smoking and my cat is dying so I may well be over-reacting

the girlfriend has a photography degree, and I have limited crime-scene photography training. We've debated film v digital a lot.
She loves digi but maintains there is a time and place for film. I also think she gets a kick out of being able to develop her stuff by herself.
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She loves digi but maintains there is a time and place for film. I also think she gets a kick out of being able to develop her stuff by herself.

the bit where it magically appears on the paper is the best
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...like Synthesisers. I think digital wins over film though purely for the instant gratification. I have used one roll of 35mm film in my whole life, and only about 7 of the photos turned out.
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Crime scene photo training?
Don't you still have to use film only for that? Just wondered coz that's what I got told waaaaaaaay back in the mists of time when I tried to become a photographer for the police.
I likes film, but rarely use it these days..
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Don't you still have to use film only for that? Just wondered coz that's what I got told waaaaaaaay back in the mists of time when I tried to become a photographer for the police.
I likes film, but rarely use it these days..

with the advent digital watermark systems and such.
Also, you have to keep all the original pictures you take on the memory card. Even if they're crap or all blurry, you keep them. Keeps the chain of evidence intact.
And if you DO have to change them in anyway, you make and edit a copy. The system will then log every pixel that's changed and how it has changed.
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Also, you have to keep all the original pictures you take on the memory card. Even if they're crap or all blurry, you keep them. Keeps the chain of evidence intact.
And if you DO have to change them in anyway, you make and edit a copy. The system will then log every pixel that's changed and how it has changed.

Sounds much better..
Didn't get any training out of it, got told after the first interviewy thing that I was the wrong sort for the job (damn my socialist parents and their protesting ways)
Still, would've been an interesting (and probably depressing) job.. Trying to find the materiality and textures of a knifing, maybe aim to do a certain crime scene in the theme of a biblical ethic and all that..
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Didn't get any training out of it, got told after the first interviewy thing that I was the wrong sort for the job (damn my socialist parents and their protesting ways)
Still, would've been an interesting (and probably depressing) job.. Trying to find the materiality and textures of a knifing, maybe aim to do a certain crime scene in the theme of a biblical ethic and all that..

however your nikon cannot do f64 or 5X4 large format images thats 10,200X13,600 pixel images
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I have actually produced a number of 100,000 X 21,000 images via the magic of photostitching
admitiddly I haven't tried any long exposure ones like that and I'm not sure it would quite work
but more importantly at those kind of dimensions my computer crashes any time I try to open the final stitched image
all things are possible
well I'm not so sure about f64, none of my lenses can do that
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admitiddly I haven't tried any long exposure ones like that and I'm not sure it would quite work
but more importantly at those kind of dimensions my computer crashes any time I try to open the final stitched image
all things are possible
well I'm not so sure about f64, none of my lenses can do that

(yes i know you can shop that out but EFFORT!)
its all debatable but i like using film and digital cos you can do stuff with one that you can't with the other.
versatility is the name of the game
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its all debatable but i like using film and digital cos you can do stuff with one that you can't with the other.
versatility is the name of the game

to get a camera to have the capability to properly mimic a particular type of camera you need a fancy camera or to use tattyshop to manipulate ti you kinda need to know what you're doing
however
fuck that, you don't need fancy shit, I've taken some of my best photos with shitty shitty camera phones or a 20 quid digital
a shitty digitial will give you all the low down phunked up lo fi feel of a 1963 rizla box slr 2 stroke whatever with fungi pixie 23.6 film or whatever bollocks you happen to have
but film is essentially limiting, I don't understand why you would restrict yourself to only 23 shots or having to ait a day to find out if you rpoduced anything worthwhile
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however
fuck that, you don't need fancy shit, I've taken some of my best photos with shitty shitty camera phones or a 20 quid digital
a shitty digitial will give you all the low down phunked up lo fi feel of a 1963 rizla box slr 2 stroke whatever with fungi pixie 23.6 film or whatever bollocks you happen to have
but film is essentially limiting, I don't understand why you would restrict yourself to only 23 shots or having to ait a day to find out if you rpoduced anything worthwhile

but from the very little i know, film can be made to do pretty much anything in the right hands.
also love the use of the word dystopian instead of grim.
/has an art degree although you'd never guess blog.
but i do like digital, fire off hundreds of shots and pick the best 2, dump the rest, result.
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also love the use of the word dystopian instead of grim.
/has an art degree although you'd never guess blog.
but i do like digital, fire off hundreds of shots and pick the best 2, dump the rest, result.

Like "I will only paint this picture on tuesdays" or I will sculpt this statue with one arm and hopping
does it really add anything to the final work?
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does it really add anything to the final work?

why use charcoal? pencils do the same thing.
yes they do but it ain't the same.
similar thing with film v digi
edit: and another thing is that any muppet can take a decent digi image whereas film requires a certain level of skill and patience
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yes they do but it ain't the same.
similar thing with film v digi
edit: and another thing is that any muppet can take a decent digi image whereas film requires a certain level of skill and patience

I reckon didgital just makes it easier to take a shite photo
if you're going to take shite photos, using film won't help but at least if you use digital you can see right away that it's shite and maybe take another better one
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if you're going to take shite photos, using film won't help but at least if you use digital you can see right away that it's shite and maybe take another better one

i like both mediums and will continue to use them for as long as i can be arsed
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i gave up on all that 'being true to the materials nonsense' it's results that count in the end, processes are all well and lovely and it's handy if you know how to do things old school, but ultimately who gives a shit, i'd much rather do something in 5 mins that traditionally took hours.
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you could get really creepy looks to things, all grainy and spooky, was hard to imitate any other way.
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i'm a great believer in using whichever technique
is best suited to getting the desired result.old school can be a lot more fun to do but unless you're a performance artist where the doing is the 'art' does how you got to the result matter.
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is best suited to getting the desired result.old school can be a lot more fun to do but unless you're a performance artist where the doing is the 'art' does how you got to the result matter.

For old mechanical tools, and things you can actually see working, like vinyl and film cameras and carburettors. I wouldn't claim the results are better, but the process should be part of the fun as well. You might have to be a geeky engineer to appreciate it.
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but to me vinyl is a sound wave solidified in plastic, you can actually see it, look, there it is
and who the fuck is making that noise? it's liek an invisible spiderman on the window
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and who the fuck is making that noise? it's liek an invisible spiderman on the window

I love putting things together that normally wouldn't be involved with each other. Most recently: Electric Violins and Vocoders.
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...it looks just like a photo taken with a camera phone.
sorry.
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sorry.

Or was it automatic?
6 minutes is a long time to stand.
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6 minutes is a long time to stand.

press it once to open
start stopwatch
wait
press again to close
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start stopwatch
wait
press again to close


I got a new drawing-type program and was trying to create an image of a winged, fire-breathing serpent standing victorious amidst the ruins of a post-apocalyptic future Earth. The program obviously isn't working properly.
edit - I removed the me from 'programme' Which ought to make it work better. Ta theSHALROTH

the board must be slow when you're just talking to yourself :p
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how terribly rude of me, please accept this cynical tiger to fight off the cold this 'ning

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It is cold here. And crisp, even. Internet not netting or interring here occasionally. Hmmmmm.
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A Programme is a television or radio broadcast.
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for that. Suppose I should have known. Another brick in the house of knowledge,thanks.
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But fuck it, I never do =]

G'morning internets.
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G'morning internets.


Grrr. Bloody customers. Got a group of five japanese guys here and I'm getting really pissed at them.
Not only could the other guests not get to the breakfast area as they spent about 5 minutes photographing
yogurt and videoing the TV! But when I asked them if they could use a plate to eat off rather than
flaking croissant over my nice clean floor. They're very appologetic and go off to get some
on the way there they ALL empty the contents of their croissant crumby hands onto the board
that I have put out cheeses and meats on!

How very continental!
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EDIT: One just added chocolate milk to its tea!
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than a few stale coissants.
Nice to see you're going all-out.
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Nice to see you're going all-out.

Fresh croissants, ham, salami, cheddar, cereals, toast, yogurt and fresh coffee.
EDIT I missed out the fruit juice, the innocent smoothies and the milkshakes:P
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EDIT I missed out the fruit juice, the innocent smoothies and the milkshakes:P

Today I'm having instant coffee with a high probability of weetabix.
What's everyone else having?
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What's everyone else having?

and fags, i'll probably have the same for elevensies, lunch, tea, high tea, my evening meal may be more substantial, a light supper of tea and fags, and then to bed with a nice mug of hot chocolate and a fag or two.
a balanced and varied diet is very important, and as tobacco and tea are leaves they do count towards your five a day portions of fruit and veg. fact.
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a balanced and varied diet is very important, and as tobacco and tea are leaves they do count towards your five a day portions of fruit and veg. fact.

I can only guess the cultural differences are so great that just about everything we have and do seems interesting enough to document to them.
You would regularly see them in the streets photographing other tourists too, particularly merkins seemed a favourite.
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You would regularly see them in the streets photographing other tourists too, particularly merkins seemed a favourite.

She paid £18 for the night.
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when i bartended we had a customer we nicknamed grace jones. he was very black, very angular and moved like a dancer. he'd perch on top of whatever was around to perch on, wore dark sunglasses, and hiss-whispered his beer orders in a dramatic fashion. he always thanked me for playing music he liked.
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is a load of shit, Rambo 4 is far too violent. For fuck sake hollywood entertain ME again.
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I should have a picture, but 5 months of nightshift, cant I just see one thing that restores my faith in the Idiot Lantern (VLS ) or the big screen, maybe I just need the sun.
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the board is slower than a wet weekend and i was just desperate to post my marvin piccie (I made it a week ago.) I know about the movies too, last one i saw was the golden compass. 10 years without going to the cinema, looks like it will be another 10 if GC was the standard :-(
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the drunk bear, who woudnt lose armour after a good piss up!
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The rest of it was utter SHIT.
I fucking HATED that film.
The books are so much better, and I will be sticking to them.
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I fucking HATED that film.
The books are so much better, and I will be sticking to them.

The books, although "better", still filled me with an unaccountable rage.
He didn't FINISH them, where's the death of theology?
*Cries into rice crispies (which i what I'm having for breaklunch)*
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He didn't FINISH them, where's the death of theology?
*Cries into rice crispies (which i what I'm having for breaklunch)*

so the effort was someone else's...i did animate it though.
yeah the bear was the only thing that saved it. I'd love to get a youtube of the fight seen, the bit where the other bear's jaw gets ripped off, so i could make a *shut the fuck up* animation. but alas when i last looked, it was not up there.
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yeah the bear was the only thing that saved it. I'd love to get a youtube of the fight seen, the bit where the other bear's jaw gets ripped off, so i could make a *shut the fuck up* animation. but alas when i last looked, it was not up there.

I got raided and all my films taken, yet I dont recall anything as violent as that Bear getting its snout fucked off its face, how the world turns.
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it cost me 14 bucks to see the golden comparse, which corresponds to about 3 beers and a couple of games of pool in my pub. I don't think I'll see rambo for a while...
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enjoying the end of the day as its slowly dissolves in a warm haze of bbq fumes and suburban futility!
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oh, and my futility is urban.
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Explosive diarrhea.
Awfully violent, though.
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Awfully violent, though.

You never call or write.
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reforming the pixies was a bad idea.
yours,
people who liked the pixies the first time around.
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yours,
people who liked the pixies the first time around.

thanks for screwing up the format of this exchange. you suck!
yours,
postbear.
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yours,
postbear.

I have a grudge. My list of grievances will be sent in another envelope.
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what more do you need?
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I wouldn't be quite so despondent.
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i'm not despondent, i'm glad they make crappy movies. it keeps the mouthbreathers busy and out of the decent cinemas that don't show garbage.
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Blockbuster does not necessarily mean crap.
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i can go along with smart pop-culture, at times, but even a lot of that gets watered down so that more people will buy into it.
i can't recall many blockbusters (a term that we might define differently) from the past twenty years that weren't crap.
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i can't recall many blockbusters (a term that we might define differently) from the past twenty years that weren't crap.

I don't care whether its a multi-million dollar extravaganza or something low budget and arthouse, if its entertaining it's entertaining. Its also nice sometimes to be able to switch off the brain and enjoy a certain kind of film simply for enjoyments sake.
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i don't mind switching my brain partly off, but i can't do it completely (or 90% off), and that's what so many films seem to require.
i guess it would be easier if most off the brain-off films weren't also hopelessly jingoistic, patronising and bigoted or clueless about other cultures.
i am expecting too much of them, i know. but, crap can be good! it doesn't have to be bad on top of being crap.
*shakes fist at 'independence day', 'armageddon' and the like*
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i guess it would be easier if most off the brain-off films weren't also hopelessly jingoistic, patronising and bigoted or clueless about other cultures.
i am expecting too much of them, i know. but, crap can be good! it doesn't have to be bad on top of being crap.
*shakes fist at 'independence day', 'armageddon' and the like*

Cloverfield was great.
Rambo 4 is fucking RAMBO, what did you expect?
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Rambo 4 is fucking RAMBO, what did you expect?

3 years, 42 posts and that's what you came out with?
Seriously mate. Talkboard beacons!
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Seriously mate. Talkboard beacons!

jumpers
sweeney todd
but not
27 dresses
jane austen bookclub
or FUCKING
HAIRSPRAY
(my kids have watched it about 47,000,000 times!
Also, regarding nightshift, I've been on nights for 23 years straight and there's nothing wrong with me!
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sweeney todd
but not
27 dresses
jane austen bookclub
or FUCKING
HAIRSPRAY
(my kids have watched it about 47,000,000 times!
Also, regarding nightshift, I've been on nights for 23 years straight and there's nothing wrong with me!

So stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it.
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and she has bendy straws for fingers. good.
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It taught me to attack people who wear purple spandex bodysuits.
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he could have at least said he was the second coming of robert pickton.
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the Jack The Ripper suspect list or some such.
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it's bundy that kills the list for me.
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it was a hand-me-down from my older brother and sister and had a few cigarette holes in it that had been patched with duct tape. there was a piece of tape across his mouth to cover a hole so it looked like the clown was a kidnap victim, and that was the best part about the stupid toy.
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Marvel comics Hulk, not mustachioed wrestleytype.
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they'd sell.
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SEX ORGIES.
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I quite like how they came out too. I think they're cheerful.
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for some reason I thought you lived in the UK but now I'm doubting that because of the time. Where abouts are you?
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but yes, I'm in the UK. I was just having an insomnia.
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