pphhfffwwooaarrr!
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:55,
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she sang on Slash's new albumand apparently offered to pretend to be Axl Rose for £40
(
mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:57,
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no, noshe offered to slash Axl Rose for £40
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:59,
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THAT'S A LIE!it was £30
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:58,
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pffft(I actually love that song and thing she's got a great Rock Voice - so there.)
bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:58,
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it's a quality album in so many waysand that song does stand out
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:59,
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Ian Astbury FTW:)
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:02,
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Lemmy, Ozzie, Iggyit's all good.
The youchoob videos show Sen Dogg recording with them, but it's not on the album... I think there might be a second album in the pipeline.
(The youchoob videos show Sen Dogg recording with them, but it's not on the album... I think there might be a second album in the pipeline.
mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:03,
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I find myself skipping past Adam LevineIt just sounds like Maroon 5 too much
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:06,
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yes, well, we can forgive that oneI skip it too
( mr horrible up yours, dickface,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:07,
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Trying to get herself some funds in slightly nefarious way bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:57,
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Boyaah, I'm in!edit:
Does all the News of the World's investigative journalism consist of a hack with a hidden camcorder offering a big wad of cash for dubious activities from mildly famous people?
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:59,
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Does all the News of the World's investigative journalism consist of a hack with a hidden camcorder offering a big wad of cash for dubious activities from mildly famous people?
yesEntrapment of the World...
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:04,
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So who's short of a bob or two and was once on the telly?Let's predict the next NotW BIG SCOOP!!!
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:06,
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Tony Blair accepting big sums of money for undertaking "consultancy" work in the middle eastoh wait...
(
Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:09,
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humina humina
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:13,
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I love Fergie.A real posh piece of totty.
(
NinjaBadger hides in the bushes and gives you TB.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:02,
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Hitler Action Figure
As seen on my recent trip to Guernsey... (not sure who the other three are or if they had the collectable Nazi pony showjumping caravan set...)
Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:40,
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his left arm hasa power punching motion
( Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:42,
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They need a little gas oven and a shovel.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:42,
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Göring, Goebbels, (Hitler), Himmlerat a guess
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:43,
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hmmm..... you could be quite right, there
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:46,
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I wasn't sure if one of them wasAlbert Speer
( Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:49,
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I still think the first three are Göring, Goebbels and Hitler. It's the forth that I'm not sure.but Benito may have it nailed with Rudolf Heß
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:54,
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Actually yeah,I'm with you now I look at them all :)
(
Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:45,
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I think the one to the left of Hitler is Himmler?He looks as camp as him anyway :)
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:44,
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Vell...Left I'm guessing is Goering, far right end I'm thinking is Rudolf Hess. 2nd from left looks like Ronald Reagan but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong about that....
(
HairyTwatter certified eel and sodium salesman,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:45,
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Abbott, Stan Laurel, Charlie Chaplin, Costello. Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:46,
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Tinsy-Wincy, La-La and Po. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:56,
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whey hey !!das ist gud, ja!
(
claptonista ,the idiot boy..........,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:48,
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^Was sie sagte^ Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:55,
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Haha!Great comedy timing pause...
I was just sat here wondering how you'd managed to shop out all the workmen so well, and why, when the cute lil fellah starts high kicking :-)
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:04,
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I was just sat here wondering how you'd managed to shop out all the workmen so well, and why, when the cute lil fellah starts high kicking :-)
yer, Goering, Goebbels and Hessalthough Goering's been on a diet
and Hess looks like the 'baby' alien in Alien Resurrection
(and Hess looks like the 'baby' alien in Alien Resurrection
Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:51,
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Do they have buttons in their backs that make them salute?Man, that's freaky..
( Captain Howdy,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:51,
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nope, just the shifty eye sliding thingperfect for recreating crimes against humanity
( Mster Johnny Ekstrom, now that's a name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:52,
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So that's two egg mayonnaise...a prawn Goebbels, a Herman Goering and four Colditz salads....no, wait a minute...I got confused because everyone keeps mentioning the war.
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doog Don't read this.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:09,
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Is that just photoshopor are you using some kind of top end rendering station?
(
Not Pineapple anymore,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:13,
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Nick Griffiths, Gordon Brown, David Cameron and Nick Clegg?
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maiden is filmed before a live studio audience,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:15,
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RiccccccckY! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:34,
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:Dunbelievable
I wonder how many times she's done it
(I wonder how many times she's done it
HappyToast Groat froth,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:36,
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hahahahahahah!
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:40,
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Poley bears!
Click for bigger and 300+ more doofers.
*covers nose*
Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:30,
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haha! Marvelous!
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:31,
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what a sneaky plan:~)
(
MrSanity has maybe kicked the WoW habit forever,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:32,
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They're such snakes-in-the-grass. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:35,
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Now that would be an impressive disguise. Matazone has new icons, but is keeping this one,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:53,
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Hahaha!Grand!
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:46,
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If you've ever wondered where honey comes from...
MrSanity has maybe kicked the WoW habit forever,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:30,
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"but can it be milked?"ace :D
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:31,
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heheHave a click there.
(
Esme Weatherwax I swear on my tash it's daycent hash,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:12,
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William 'gnarly' Shatner, ripping up the park..
claptonista ,the idiot boy..........,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:57,
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Wahey! Look at him go...:D
(
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:58,
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hahahaha, ace training wheels :D
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:01,
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hehehealso, sorry for TJ. Some of us will remember this chap
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:04,
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I just saw that on BBC news.... very sad :(
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:06,
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: (not a bad innings though.
( claptonista ,the idiot boy..........,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:12,
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I just heard that toodamn shame.
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:08,
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sad, but lord charles was always the more talented part of the act.I wish him a long and successful solo career
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:12,
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I think he's getting a cabinet post Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:14,
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pffffffffft Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:17,
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It's time for the 13:00 BNN bulletin Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:16,
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BONGJohn Peel
BONG
Whale
BONG
Pope
BONG
Battenberg
BONG
Profit
(BONG
Whale
BONG
Pope
BONG
Battenberg
BONG
Profit
Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:18,
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I like this news and wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:22,
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this is a combination which will surely push society forward to the brink of a massive revolutionary enlightenment Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:27,
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haha - who dropped this shopping list?eighth
rizlas
clipper lighter
20 Superkings
battenberg
monkey beer
(rizlas
clipper lighter
20 Superkings
battenberg
monkey beer
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:28,
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And finally...Kittens.
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:31,
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SQUEEEEEEEEEE! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:47,
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He's lovely!Alright Ninj?
:D
(:D
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:57,
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that's a rather splendid Hitlernot a phrase I get to use often enough
(
Pootle,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:58,
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Calamari Hitler?Hahahahahahahahaha
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:23,
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Ha ha ha, I will be saving this jpg for future reference.
An Eagle in Your Mind,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:25,
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Hahahaha! Blimey!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:57,
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hasn't he got long arms! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:02,
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I went to my auntie's house with a new part for her broken ovenshe wasn't expecting me at that particular time so she said "If I'd known you were coming I'd have baked a cake".
Oh how we chortled when I reminded her that not only was her oven broken but that she was also fucking shit at cooking anything.
Trufax!
(Oh how we chortled when I reminded her that not only was her oven broken but that she was also fucking shit at cooking anything.
Trufax!
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:10,
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she didn't even know it was a song Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:29,
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Saying it how it is = No Haha
Click for bigger (297 kb)
Have a helping of Something Wonderful. Hope everyone had a great weekend!
Hahahaha atheist lolsSomeone on here taught me the phrase "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", which was nice.
Your style for some reason reminds me a little of Transmetropolitan.
(Your style for some reason reminds me a little of Transmetropolitan.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:23,
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Cool,I really like Darrick Art, especially on THE BOYS.
I actually have been told that before, but not for drawing in this style, more for my other comics.
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:25,
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I actually have been told that before, but not for drawing in this style, more for my other comics.
Nice,I may well visit the bookshop this evening.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:28,
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I just picked up Last Stand of the Wreckers #5My hands are shaking; it's as if Kurosawa did a Transformers comic
( emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:29,
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ThisNeeds to happen.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:38,
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This may be formally true...But the mere fact that there's not been evidence of absence produced doesn't mean that there's any entitlement to believe in stuff: if you had to wait for evidence of absence before ditching a belief, you'd have a very cluttered mind.
cf Russell's Teapot...
(cf Russell's Teapot...
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:29,
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I don't buy Russell's teapot.Just because there's no proof of absence of something doesn't mean I believe in it, either.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:32,
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But it's a matter of entitlement.Intellectual good taste demands that, to the greatest extent possible, we ought only to believe that which we have a sufficient reason to believe. There is no such reason to believe in the existence of a deity.
Occam's razor, and all that. (Except that Occam was a bit blunt on that front.)
(Occam's razor, and all that. (Except that Occam was a bit blunt on that front.)
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:35,
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but there's no such evidence to the contrary either...and now we're back to square one
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:36,
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But the point is that there's no need for there to be evidence to the contrary.I don't need to produce evidence that there's no teapot orbiting between Earth and Mars; I don't need to be able to produce evidence of the absence of pixies from my back yard.
If you want to entertain the possibility of a thing's existence, then the burden of proof lies on you.
(Consider an analogy with a courtroom: it isn't that the prosecution has to demonstrate guilt and the defence has to demonstrate innocence - rather, all the defence has to do is show that the case hasn't been made. Something similar applies here.)
(If you want to entertain the possibility of a thing's existence, then the burden of proof lies on you.
(Consider an analogy with a courtroom: it isn't that the prosecution has to demonstrate guilt and the defence has to demonstrate innocence - rather, all the defence has to do is show that the case hasn't been made. Something similar applies here.)
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:41,
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Entertaining the possibility and belief are two very different things.Entertaining the possibilty is something every scientist must be able to do in order to progress.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:59,
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But there're still some claims and sets of claims that don't merit being entertained.So I tend to agree with you - but there has to be a plausibility criterion. A scientist at CERN who entertained the possibility that mass arises because of a fight between red and blue pixies would be a strange creature indeed, just because there's no reason even to entertain the (merely logical) possibility.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:11,
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If he said red or blue quarks, it would be fine though, right?We come down once again to a matter of taste. And as you know, everyone except me has awful taste.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:14,
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Well, provided he has independent evidence for the existence of quarks,can provide testable predictions, and so on, he can call them what the hell he likes. But that's not the same as picking any old toss from the back of his mind and insisting that we take the possibility seriously.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:18,
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surely if you want to believe something, then you canthere is no burden of anything on anyone until you start trying to get others to believe?
( doog Don't read this.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:03,
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Nope.In my more belligerent moods, I think that there's a duty to avoid false beliefs; but even in my more concessive moods, I'd deny that there's a right to hold false ones. And this means that I think we ought to be prepared to ditch any and all our current beliefs if the evidence and arguments head that way.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:08,
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"Intellectual good taste"?! HahahahahahaI see.
Who are the guardians of what is and what isn't "good taste", and how do they make their decisions?
(Who are the guardians of what is and what isn't "good taste", and how do they make their decisions?
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:37,
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Hahahaha Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:41,
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scientists, academics, researcherspeople who spend their whole professional lives thinking about the world around them and how it works.
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:45,
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Meh.It's a matter of keeping things tidy, in terms of metaphysical parsimony and explanatory efficiency (which I take to be related) - that is, not believing in factors for which there is no independent evidence, and choosing the less complicated explanation of observed phenomena over the more complicated.
It's really not unusual to hear scientists talking in terms of beauty or elegance when it comes to explaining phenomena: I'm talking in the same sort of way.
(It's really not unusual to hear scientists talking in terms of beauty or elegance when it comes to explaining phenomena: I'm talking in the same sort of way.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:45,
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Beauty being based entirely on personal taste and perception. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:57,
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Beauty here being a portmanteau for efficiency, predictive power, and so on.For sure, that a simply hypothesis is better than a complicated one might be thought of as unargued; but I think it's more of an axiom. If you abandon it, science very quickly becomes impossible. I think you're therefore entititled to accept it; it's possible that you're even obliged to do so, on pain of no longer being a scientist.
That still doesn't indicate anything like equivalence with supernaturalism.
(That still doesn't indicate anything like equivalence with supernaturalism.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:21,
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Ah, well - if we're doing portmanteaus, then Shirley "It is God's will" is just a quicker way of saying"Theribald-Johnson & co 1937 study of predictive skin disorder concluding that dermatitis leads to engorged neuralgia, from which we can extrapolate thusly ... "
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:26,
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If everyone understands that that's what's meant by the phrase "God's will",then there might be some mileage to the idea.
But I have a hunch that the overwhelming majority of people who use the term "God's will" think that that's all there is to it; they don't, after all, have a great reputation for making use of respected dermatological journals...
(But I have a hunch that the overwhelming majority of people who use the term "God's will" think that that's all there is to it; they don't, after all, have a great reputation for making use of respected dermatological journals...
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:29,
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Hunch, eh?Sounds unscientific to me.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:32,
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Meh Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:44,
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So you're saying I should worship the teapot?Perhaps kill people who don't worship the teapot or worship it in a slightly different way?
Perhaps knock on a few doors and spread the word of the teapot?
(Perhaps knock on a few doors and spread the word of the teapot?
Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:37,
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you must kill david cameronthe teapot demands it!
( Damocles wants no part of your debauchery,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:16,
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I didn't think the strip was meant to be taken seriousIt's ironic because the red guy turns out the be the strawman.
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:38,
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there's two universal constants...1: I'm always right
2: Any sniff of religious debate sends b3tans in a state akin to blood-lust
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:40,
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2: Any sniff of religious debate sends b3tans in a state akin to blood-lust
as far as religion goesthere's certainly no evidence of an absence of idiocy
( mutated monty,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:14,
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It's not funny 'cos it's true.very good, though.
( An Eagle in Your Mind,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:26,
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*runs away and registers dratscomic.com**profits*
*buys a pony*
(*buys a pony*
doog Don't read this.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:06,
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You have a unique understanding of the word "reasonable".And by "unique", I do, of course, mean "childishly implausible".
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:27,
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thing is, in comparison with ideas of universes inside electrons, and matter that doesn't exist because it does, and quorns and strapons and freeons and frusailsIt's not so ridiculous - just a question of picking your team's colours.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:30,
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Not so.The various permutations of quantum weirdness are based on predictions that derive from observed phenomena. Moreover, they're testable in principle, and - increasingly - in practice. The important point is that they aren't plucked out of thin air, and are not self-supporting. They're a part of the best - most predictively reliable, most metaphysically parsimonious, most efficient - currently available synthesis of the way the world seems to work.
There's a world of difference between the two accounts.
(There's a world of difference between the two accounts.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:38,
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If I may quote the sunday school teacher from The Simpsons;"Is a little blind-faith too much to ask for?"
I gave up arguing against blind faith years ago.
(I gave up arguing against blind faith years ago.
Colonel Dracula Two manky hookers and a racist dwarf,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:44,
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they're just different language being used to explain the unknown.one could equally credit oneself for predicting god's work.
The issue is that the two are two very different questions: science asks "How?", and religion asks "Why?"
(The issue is that the two are two very different questions: science asks "How?", and religion asks "Why?"
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:01,
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There's two things going on here, though.One is that they simply are not different language to explain the unknown: religious claims make no predictions, are not independently testable, and introduce not just new entities, but whole new kinds of being to the story.
As for the how/ why distinction - well, that might be true. But, to that extent, religion and science are simply incommensurable; moreover, there's no reason to suppose that there's a "why" anyway - it's probably a non-question.
(As for the how/ why distinction - well, that might be true. But, to that extent, religion and science are simply incommensurable; moreover, there's no reason to suppose that there's a "why" anyway - it's probably a non-question.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:05,
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So we've got down to it being a matter of proabability, and one of intellectual taste.Sounds like a belief system to me.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:11,
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It's unclear what you mean by "belief system" here. Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:15,
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You believe god doesn't exist (though it has not yet been disproved)Religiousists believe god does exist.
Fight.
I say that we can't say one way or another at the moment, because we don't know. This is not to say we can't know, but that we don't at the moment.
(Fight.
I say that we can't say one way or another at the moment, because we don't know. This is not to say we can't know, but that we don't at the moment.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:20,
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So which of all the made up religions in the earth's history will be true when this scientific god is discovered?
Well, we need to do more experiements, first, so we can't really say. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:27,
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But what would possibly count as an experiment here?And, correlatively, what would count as a falsification of a believer's claim?
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:31,
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Precisely the intellectual cul-de-sac that anyone who claims to think "correctly" and to have "intellectual good taste" finds themself in. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:33,
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Huh?How does my questioning your claim mean that I'm in a cul-de-sac?
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:46,
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Because you don't know how to answer it. You're unable to confront it.Because you have made the claim to be right (ie science), you must then prove yourself to be.
I'm just claiming not to know, which I believe is all anyone can do over the matter of god, precisely because the concept itself is by definition unprovable.
(I'm just claiming not to know, which I believe is all anyone can do over the matter of god, precisely because the concept itself is by definition unprovable.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:49,
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But that's just the pointI don't believe that god doesn't exist. I think that there's no evidence for his existence, and I don't think that there could be; but I have no positive claim on the matter either way.
I'm sympathetic to Jonathan Miller here: he refuses to call himself an atheist for the same reason that he refuses to call himself an a-unicornist - for him, there's just nothing worth saying in the label, because the god-hypothesis is so obviously without foundation that there's no real point wasting energy fighting it.
There seems to be a lot of wisdom in that attitude.
(I'm sympathetic to Jonathan Miller here: he refuses to call himself an atheist for the same reason that he refuses to call himself an a-unicornist - for him, there's just nothing worth saying in the label, because the god-hypothesis is so obviously without foundation that there's no real point wasting energy fighting it.
There seems to be a lot of wisdom in that attitude.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:27,
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But ... but ... but in your profile musings on the subject of god, you claim that the atheists are right, and that agnostics need to grow up and are intellectually barren!Now I don't know where you stand on the matter!
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:31,
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Ha!Well, you might have me on that...
Hmmmm...
I think that the atheists are right to the extent that they don't invoke - and are resistant to invoking - the supernatural. That seems like obviously the correct strategy.
And - oh, all right then: whether or not I would class myself as an atheist or reject even that label is something about which I'm not wholly decided. In most situations, the two descriptions amount to the same, though...
(Hmmmm...
I think that the atheists are right to the extent that they don't invoke - and are resistant to invoking - the supernatural. That seems like obviously the correct strategy.
And - oh, all right then: whether or not I would class myself as an atheist or reject even that label is something about which I'm not wholly decided. In most situations, the two descriptions amount to the same, though...
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:43,
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Goedel's Theorem:nature can't be a complete and consistent system.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:27,
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Interesting how you used the idea of scientific theories to rationalise religion.But now state how different they are when being called up on it. What was the original point again?
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Mon 24 May 2010, 13:10,
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That the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.While I accept that the scientific method requires an atheistic approach, atheism is not an answer in itself.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:12,
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That phrase is plain stupid. It reminds me of something the Sphinx would say in Mystery Men.It has no weight to it. I'd love someone to use that in court and for it to be taken seriously. Maybe we could lock up more innocent people that way.
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Mon 24 May 2010, 13:19,
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Good riposte. I stand down. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:21,
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Actually... it's a tenet often used in courtThank goodness.
The commonest way I can think it comes up is, for example, "The fact that we didn't find semen on her pants doesn't mean the rape never happened, it just means there's no semen on her pants".
You would then discuss other possible/likely explanations based on your experience and expertise. And unless you're a numpty, you would include "the rape never happened" as one of the possible explanations.
(The commonest way I can think it comes up is, for example, "The fact that we didn't find semen on her pants doesn't mean the rape never happened, it just means there's no semen on her pants".
You would then discuss other possible/likely explanations based on your experience and expertise. And unless you're a numpty, you would include "the rape never happened" as one of the possible explanations.
Mockingbird Practitioner of SCIENCE,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:41,
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The scientific method neither requires an atheistic approach nor a religious approachIt requires the ability to make an observation of a system -- of whatever form, be it mathematical or of nature around us or of an experiment -- formulate an explanation and then, and this is the most important part, make predictions for the behaviour in other situations.
That's it. That's the whole lot. You can do that while believing in lares and penates, you can do that while believing in Allah and you can do that while believing we all live in the belly of Gharak the Great White Wale if you like, just so long as that's what you do and you don't cloud it with your personal beliefs.
If you view that as an "atheistic approach" then fair enough -- but religion doesn't actually enter into it. It's in the *interpretation* that it comes in, but already the interpretation of some theory is veering into philosophy. At its heart, the "scientific method" and "science" are literally just ways of building algorithms. We make an observation, we make a model, then we put in different initial data and predict what will come out, then we compare that prediction with reality. That's science. Everything else is philosophy.
Edit: Of course, this is all just my belief.
(That's it. That's the whole lot. You can do that while believing in lares and penates, you can do that while believing in Allah and you can do that while believing we all live in the belly of Gharak the Great White Wale if you like, just so long as that's what you do and you don't cloud it with your personal beliefs.
If you view that as an "atheistic approach" then fair enough -- but religion doesn't actually enter into it. It's in the *interpretation* that it comes in, but already the interpretation of some theory is veering into philosophy. At its heart, the "scientific method" and "science" are literally just ways of building algorithms. We make an observation, we make a model, then we put in different initial data and predict what will come out, then we compare that prediction with reality. That's science. Everything else is philosophy.
Edit: Of course, this is all just my belief.
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:03,
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Indeed.Hence my point about science and religion being two different questions.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:20,
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I totally agreeBut everyone else was saying stuff so I wanted a part of it :) (Also it's an old hobby horse of mine.)
( boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:22,
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I'm not convinced of these "ideas of universes inside electrons" to which you referCould you direct me to whichever crackpot referred to them, for I wish to shake their hand.
( boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:52,
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I'd heard it before in various media, but of late I can tell you from the top of my head that Bill Bryson's Brief History Of Nearly Everything refers to it. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:28,
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Hmmmmm.I still need to read that book -- but I'd also say that no-one I know of in the field would actually take anything like that seriously for a variety of tedious reasons, the most important of which would boil down to
* There is no evidence for particles smaller than quarks and electrons, which in present theories are fundamental point particles (or strings if you believe string theory, which personally I don't)
* The forces are totally out of whack for a universe. Gravity is extraordinarily weak. At the level of an atom and below the electromagnetic, weak nuclear and then strong nuclear forces all come into play and they're all staggeringly strong compared to gravity. Without gravity there's no chance of anything resembling a universe even if there *are* extra fundamental particles. Gravity only comes of roughly equivalent strength at absurdly high energies (way, way higher than anything we will ever produce on Earth, higher than are reached in the sun and higher even in supernovae -- by a very long way), after which you still wouldn't get anything like a universe because then all the four forces *should* be unified. But may not be.
Maybe we're all wrong... but I wouldn't treat suggestions of universes inside atoms particularly seriously.
/loss of sense of humour through nerdish interest blog :)
(* There is no evidence for particles smaller than quarks and electrons, which in present theories are fundamental point particles (or strings if you believe string theory, which personally I don't)
* The forces are totally out of whack for a universe. Gravity is extraordinarily weak. At the level of an atom and below the electromagnetic, weak nuclear and then strong nuclear forces all come into play and they're all staggeringly strong compared to gravity. Without gravity there's no chance of anything resembling a universe even if there *are* extra fundamental particles. Gravity only comes of roughly equivalent strength at absurdly high energies (way, way higher than anything we will ever produce on Earth, higher than are reached in the sun and higher even in supernovae -- by a very long way), after which you still wouldn't get anything like a universe because then all the four forces *should* be unified. But may not be.
Maybe we're all wrong... but I wouldn't treat suggestions of universes inside atoms particularly seriously.
/loss of sense of humour through nerdish interest blog :)
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:33,
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This is partly my point. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 14:51,
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:)I'm not to be taken too seriously today, I'm in too good a mood.
( boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:48,
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why aren't point particles black holes?
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:32,
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GR probably doesn't operate on those scalesso we can't immediately take any predictions of GR, including black holes. The concept as defined from actual photons may not even make any sense on those scales, so we'd have to take a firmer definition based on the causal structure surrounding the point particle. But the causal structure is based on the null geodesics around the point particle... and that very concept makes assumptions about the continuous, differentiable nature of spacetime. And that notion almost certainly contradicts a quantum theory of gravity. So the concept of a "black hole" might not even be valid.
Basically without a QM theory of gravity we've no idea what happens to point particles. If you believe string theory there *are* no point particles and everyone's happy. If you don't believe string theory then maybe you believe loop quantum gravity, where no-one's got a serious clue how to add in particles but they won't be points anyway because spacetime is intrinsically granular. If you believe neither... take your pick.
In any event, we need a quantum theory of gravity to answer that. Maybe the answer is even "they are", but that would immediately raise the question "So why don't they obliterate themselves in an instant dose of Hawking radiation?", the answer possibly being "Because we find that Hawking radiation is also quantised and the point particles are in a ground state". Maybe all of that is bullshit. That's the beauty of fundamental physics -- we still don't know so there's loads to learn :)
(Basically without a QM theory of gravity we've no idea what happens to point particles. If you believe string theory there *are* no point particles and everyone's happy. If you don't believe string theory then maybe you believe loop quantum gravity, where no-one's got a serious clue how to add in particles but they won't be points anyway because spacetime is intrinsically granular. If you believe neither... take your pick.
In any event, we need a quantum theory of gravity to answer that. Maybe the answer is even "they are", but that would immediately raise the question "So why don't they obliterate themselves in an instant dose of Hawking radiation?", the answer possibly being "Because we find that Hawking radiation is also quantised and the point particles are in a ground state". Maybe all of that is bullshit. That's the beauty of fundamental physics -- we still don't know so there's loads to learn :)
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:47,
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We don't need a quantum theory of gravity to answer that,it's a cunning mental exercise but QM already answers it. There's no such thing as a point particle because the idea of the "size" of a wavefunction doesn't even make any sense. An electron doesn't have a position, it has a quantum state. Four-dimensional space-time is a convenient transform that suits us, but only Hilbert space is real. It's all the legacy of the enlightenment era materialists.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:59,
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But the view of a "wavefunction" relies on a strong interpretation of QMand Schroedinger QM doesn't really apply here. For one thing it's non-relativistic (and so observationally wrong at high energies) and it's single quantised. QFT doesn't really rely on wavefunctions in the same way. In QFT (QED, say) it makes about as much sense to talk about a point particle as not talk about a point particle -- or that's my view of it, from my rusty memories of actually doing any QFT.
Anyway, regardless, I don't know of a theory that can actually make predictions (or many that don't, including string theory) that don't implicitly or explicitly employ a spacetime. Typically it's set as Minkowski (like in QED, QCD etc) or Minkowski + perturbations (like in string theory). Trying to extend the predictions of such theories -- regardless of whether you can employ a wavefunction interpretation or not -- to arbitrarily small scales or high energies is therefore going to grow problematic without a quantum theory of gravity.
(Also I'm philosophically ill-inclined to look at a Fock space and say "that's the reality". It's not, it's just a Fock space.)
(Anyway, regardless, I don't know of a theory that can actually make predictions (or many that don't, including string theory) that don't implicitly or explicitly employ a spacetime. Typically it's set as Minkowski (like in QED, QCD etc) or Minkowski + perturbations (like in string theory). Trying to extend the predictions of such theories -- regardless of whether you can employ a wavefunction interpretation or not -- to arbitrarily small scales or high energies is therefore going to grow problematic without a quantum theory of gravity.
(Also I'm philosophically ill-inclined to look at a Fock space and say "that's the reality". It's not, it's just a Fock space.)
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:18,
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We need a quantum theory of gravity for various reasons,but not for explaining why electrons aren't black holes! That's just a funny idea to introduce to the unwary.
I'm not just thinking of the Schrodinger wavefunction here, although it suffices for the explanation. The relativistic Dirac equation has a wavefunction - a Spinor wavefunction. Maxwell's Equations have a wavefunction in the form of the vector potential. "Particles", if it makes sense to call them that (but it's the nomenclature we're stuck with), can only be described as excitations of the field; as such they are dimensionless, but in no sense is it meaningful to say that they are points. That would be pointless.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun to say Hilbert space is "real", but one thing is for certain, space-time isn't fundamental, it's a basis set transform.
(I'm not just thinking of the Schrodinger wavefunction here, although it suffices for the explanation. The relativistic Dirac equation has a wavefunction - a Spinor wavefunction. Maxwell's Equations have a wavefunction in the form of the vector potential. "Particles", if it makes sense to call them that (but it's the nomenclature we're stuck with), can only be described as excitations of the field; as such they are dimensionless, but in no sense is it meaningful to say that they are points. That would be pointless.
Maybe I'm jumping the gun to say Hilbert space is "real", but one thing is for certain, space-time isn't fundamental, it's a basis set transform.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:27,
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but... but...i still think that without a theory that includes both, say, electrons and gravity we can't actually comment on anything gravitational on such scales. anything else is extending a current theory severely past its range of applicability. "it's not, because a schroedinger wavefunction has no position!" isn't really an answer, that's basically saying "it's not, because in a theory that only applies on much larger scales and at much lower energies an electron can -- in a given interpretation -- be described as a wavefunction, therefore when we push the energy up by about 100 orders of magnitude and explicitly include gravity it will *still* be described as a wavefunction!".
can you see my objection to that...?
basically i may well say "OK, gravity is probably emergent" because i feel that actually it is (and in a way which isn't yet popular -- i actually think that a "fundamental" theory is more likely to be found by *removing* symmetries and working in a system in which all the symmetries emerge when excited. volovik's shown that this occurs in superfluid helium iia; perturb it and you get basically the entire standard model + massless spin 2 quasiparticles. the dynamics are totally wrong but the kinematics of the entirity of modern science are all there. there are other models too, some of which pick up the dynamics as well.) but i can equally say "what makes you so sure that electrons aren't emergent? what makes you think that the wavefunction isn't emergent?"
similarly i could point to, say, bohmian qm. the wavefunction here is identical to the schroedinger wavefunction but it's emergent (closely related to the classical action) and the theory is totally deterministic. aesthetically ugly, but still...
we simply have no idea what form a theory applicable at the kind of energies and on those kind of scales will take. sure, spacetime may be emergent in some sense, but so may wavefunctions, whatever they would be. so might all the various spaces on which our "particles" are defined, and all the symmetry groups between them.
(can you see my objection to that...?
basically i may well say "OK, gravity is probably emergent" because i feel that actually it is (and in a way which isn't yet popular -- i actually think that a "fundamental" theory is more likely to be found by *removing* symmetries and working in a system in which all the symmetries emerge when excited. volovik's shown that this occurs in superfluid helium iia; perturb it and you get basically the entire standard model + massless spin 2 quasiparticles. the dynamics are totally wrong but the kinematics of the entirity of modern science are all there. there are other models too, some of which pick up the dynamics as well.) but i can equally say "what makes you so sure that electrons aren't emergent? what makes you think that the wavefunction isn't emergent?"
similarly i could point to, say, bohmian qm. the wavefunction here is identical to the schroedinger wavefunction but it's emergent (closely related to the classical action) and the theory is totally deterministic. aesthetically ugly, but still...
we simply have no idea what form a theory applicable at the kind of energies and on those kind of scales will take. sure, spacetime may be emergent in some sense, but so may wavefunctions, whatever they would be. so might all the various spaces on which our "particles" are defined, and all the symmetry groups between them.
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:47,
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I see your objection but I think you are missing the point,because I think you are thinking about it in a very general sense. My point is simply that the question of why electrons aren't black holes simply doesn't come up unless you assume to begin with that electrons are point particles, and there is no reason to assume that, and every reason not to. It's merely the last vestiges of our intuitive grasp of how "matter" behaves at human scales.
I think everything is emergent, fermions are "twisting space" somehow, EM is just a special case of gravity. I can't prove nothin' but I'm absolutely convinced that our sense perceptions don't directly tell us what's really going on. There is a reason that the Universe appears to exist in four dimensional space-time, and I reckon the Gamma matrices have something to do with it.
(I think everything is emergent, fermions are "twisting space" somehow, EM is just a special case of gravity. I can't prove nothin' but I'm absolutely convinced that our sense perceptions don't directly tell us what's really going on. There is a reason that the Universe appears to exist in four dimensional space-time, and I reckon the Gamma matrices have something to do with it.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:57,
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I probably am missing the pointI'm really tired for some reason. And I've just found that the reason my codes have been crashing for the last few days (causing me to work over the weekend and today, which is a bank holiday here) is that I didn't compile the libraries up with the Intel fortran compiler but used gfortran instead. Fuck's sake.... But it works now :)
I think my point ultimately might be that the question of why electrons aren't black holes doesn't come up unless you have a sound theory to work with in the first place -- which would be in some respects a theory of quantum gravity. Put that way, we seem to be arguing about exactly the same point, in totally different ways.
(Likewise that everything is emergent. But I'm not convinced about EM being a special case of gravity, attempts to do that pretty much always produce a dilaton and I don't like dilatons. But I believe the two of them are subsets of something else. There's a fair bit of focus on 3-forms at the minute, and a theory built on 3-forms automatically includes what are basically Maxwell tensors along with what are basically Ricci tensors, unless I've got totally the wrong end of the stick which I probably have. Something like that might be the way to unite the two without bogging ourselves down in string theory...)
(I think my point ultimately might be that the question of why electrons aren't black holes doesn't come up unless you have a sound theory to work with in the first place -- which would be in some respects a theory of quantum gravity. Put that way, we seem to be arguing about exactly the same point, in totally different ways.
(Likewise that everything is emergent. But I'm not convinced about EM being a special case of gravity, attempts to do that pretty much always produce a dilaton and I don't like dilatons. But I believe the two of them are subsets of something else. There's a fair bit of focus on 3-forms at the minute, and a theory built on 3-forms automatically includes what are basically Maxwell tensors along with what are basically Ricci tensors, unless I've got totally the wrong end of the stick which I probably have. Something like that might be the way to unite the two without bogging ourselves down in string theory...)
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 17:04,
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I think that just comes down to nomenclature,I'd call the superset "gravity", still, gravity is rank-2 tensor so there's definitely scope for some quite complex behaviour, and going up to rank 3 intuitively would cause more problems than it solves.
There was some guy I read about a while ago who was working on a gauge theory based on the exceptional group G2, don't know if anything ever came of that.
(There was some guy I read about a while ago who was working on a gauge theory based on the exceptional group G2, don't know if anything ever came of that.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 17:11,
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beats meunless that was the surfer dude who used straight e8 to get everything out. last i heard no-one was actually convinced in the end.
i keep meaning to read through mcelrath's papers, he's currently convinced he's got out the standard model + neutrino masses + gravitons + a small cosmological constant + the correct dynamics from a cloud of interacting neutrinoes and anti-neutrinoes. but i don't even understand the setup since he preassumes the existence of neutrinoes and then finds what i can only assume are neutrino-like quasiparticles. but he's absolutely convinced and he knows a lot more particle theory than i do.
(i keep meaning to read through mcelrath's papers, he's currently convinced he's got out the standard model + neutrino masses + gravitons + a small cosmological constant + the correct dynamics from a cloud of interacting neutrinoes and anti-neutrinoes. but i don't even understand the setup since he preassumes the existence of neutrinoes and then finds what i can only assume are neutrino-like quasiparticles. but he's absolutely convinced and he knows a lot more particle theory than i do.
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 17:15,
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Yeah that guy,Garrett Lisi, I think he still has a small minority following. I don't like superstring theory much though so I hope someone comes up with something better that works.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 17:32,
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i'm hoping bob mcelrath's rightor at least along the right lines. but then i did do my masters in analogue gravity so i'm not quite unbiased on this... :)
i don't like string theory much either. it probably shows. but i'm not really sold on loop quantum either. i prefer their *intentions* -- they just want to quantise gravity, they're not shooting for the top right from the start -- but the theory itself is somehow unpersuasive.
(i don't like string theory much either. it probably shows. but i'm not really sold on loop quantum either. i prefer their *intentions* -- they just want to quantise gravity, they're not shooting for the top right from the start -- but the theory itself is somehow unpersuasive.
boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 17:37,
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That's about as "reasonable" as they getwhile still talking utter shite
( emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:28,
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heheSmokie's new album - hehehe
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:20,
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it's funny because, despite centuries of theological debateI AM THE ONLY PERSON WITH A VALID OPINION ON RELIGION!
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:29,
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HahahahahahaInternets! Sirius business!
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:30,
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too fucking right!everyone else apart from me is a total spastic
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Mon 24 May 2010, 12:31,
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You know, I was eulogising to Mrs Vagabond the other day about what a lucky woman she was having met me, and I'd just got to a very interesting bit, when I realisedthat she'd left the room to go and watch television.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:33,
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you should have ran after her and two-footed tackled her in the neckit's the only way they'll learn!
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Mon 24 May 2010, 12:35,
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I only have to open my mouthAnd my girlfriends eyes start to glaze over.
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Mon 24 May 2010, 12:36,
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my lesser-half said to me yesterday..."I can't wait for the day when I don't have to ask for you to pass my hand-bag before we get out of the car... you just do it"
I replied
"but that would mean you've won!"
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:38,
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I replied
"but that would mean you've won!"
Opinions cannot be valid or invalid, any more than colours can be large or small.They can be true or false. Only arguments can be valid or invalid.
/pedant blog
(/pedant blog
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:46,
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No -A claim is true or false, irrespective of whether or not its truth has been established.
"There is intelligent life on other planets" is either true or false. I don't know which, but that's beside the point.
("There is intelligent life on other planets" is either true or false. I don't know which, but that's beside the point.
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:56,
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There is intelligent life on other planets is true, I can state for you.I built a catapult and flung a colony of woodlice to Venus on Thursday. They should be there by now.
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:11,
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HahahaWhile I like this I can't help but feel that part of the joke is the arguing about "reasonable" that you knew would come up on this thread :)
( boris the spider,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:53,
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Wow that green dude thinks he knows what the creator of the universe is thinking.What a fucking douche.
(
mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ,
Mon 24 May 2010, 15:46,
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yeah and he's got it wrong as well,salvation is by grace of God, not by works.
Although that kind of misses the point of the comic.
(Although that kind of misses the point of the comic.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Mon 24 May 2010, 16:05,
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"Crys out" ?really? CRYS?
( The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:10,
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CF the whole weekend Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:11,
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I see (I just spazzed back)and it made me crie.
( The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:17,
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NEW CRIE!It's CREAMY and it's BRIE!
( Mighty Nibus who dares gins | @nibus,
Mon 24 May 2010, 13:03,
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Just be thankful it's notcry's out
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NobbyNobody 21 years a b3tan,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:20,
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*grinds teeth**glowers*
That would make me lose all faith in humanity
(That would make me lose all faith in humanity
Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:25,
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I like the little rabbit. Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:12,
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That's what she said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lolololllolol!!!!!!!!!!!!!111!!!!1!!!!
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:15,
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awwww b3ta found another 4chan meme
yanmania... last shagged your mum on,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:22,
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahahahahahahaha!Marvellous!
But Jeremy is far, far better than that awful sin of a human being.
(But Jeremy is far, far better than that awful sin of a human being.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:29,
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You mean him?
/agrees
(/agrees
printmeister http://tinyurl.com/c8s8fd5 for titanic T's,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:53,
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I wonder how many evil emails and death threats he's received?
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theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:02,
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He just got one more.:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:11,
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Why do you know such things? tim1701 I have no board signature!!!!!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:08,
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^What she said^ Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:10,
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QUICK RE-REGENERATE HIM BACK!woo
( The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:31,
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Jeremy is this annoying ------------That fat prick is this annoying-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
100% Sciens!
(100% Sciens!
Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:32,
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heh heh....thank fuck for the mute button when he shows up:D
Elvis impersonator,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:32,
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good god, ^THIS
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:33,
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I meant that fat fuck..............NOT JEREMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
( Elvis impersonator,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:36,
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great stuff Moley bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:33,
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Cheers Freebs!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:34,
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hahahahahahah! completely hatstand*clicks*
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:33,
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Cheers me dear!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:35,
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Ha ha ha, Ace!
(
Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:37,
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Nooooooooooooooooooo!Not him!!!
: D
(: D
claptonista ,the idiot boy..........,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:37,
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LOVE IT MOLEY!!!!But not the fat fuck... Him, I can do without...
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:45,
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hahahaha!Jeremy the annoying horse fat cnut!
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:45,
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Hiya matey Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:52,
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Su Pollard is infinitely more annoying than the pair of those other two fucks combined.But then maybe that's the point.
( An Eagle in Your Mind,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:03,
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muhahahahah! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:34,
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The only reason I wake up everydayis to check if there's a new Jeremy picture out.
When's the website coming?!?! I've had it on my favs for weeks now, waiting....
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 19:45,
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When's the website coming?!?! I've had it on my favs for weeks now, waiting....
I saw him last Friday in Tring! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on,
Mon 24 May 2010, 23:13,
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That sound does pretty much sum up the expression she is making!Nice one!
And hello B3ta, how is everyone this fine morning? Should I go to the zoo today?
(And hello B3ta, how is everyone this fine morning? Should I go to the zoo today?
Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:23,
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Go to the zoo and throw your own shit at the monkeys. See how they like it. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:24,
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Arf! Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:32,
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(
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:26,
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Yes, yes i doSteak, bacon, pork........ And so one with the rest of this joke. :-)
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:29,
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'tis a fine day for it.Have you first checked your zoo's policies on animal welfare and biodiversity conservation?
/taking all the fun out of it blog
(/taking all the fun out of it blog
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:25,
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Yup!I'm a friend of ZSL, Its kinda like being a friend of Dorothy, but with less bumming and more free animals.
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:30,
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GO!Walk around shouting JAHLED! JAHLED! COME OUT COME OUT WHEREVER YOU ARE! It is the only way to make him appear, trufax!
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:49,
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Ha ha ha, its a good plan!or just grab everyone I see and scream ARE YOU JAHLED??!?!???! in their face!
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:00,
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hmmm ...quite sad places zoos............Barcelona's was depressing:( Elvis impersonator,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:30,
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:`(
(
Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:34,
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Some zooz are a bad newz I will agree, but I'm a London zoo personand I know they take pride in being one of the best and do great things for animals :)
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:36,
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See also Jersey Zoo.It is aces!
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:50,
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Yes, I went there a couple of years back and it is a lovely place, the punters have less room than the animalsAlways a good sign, also good to see some Aye ayes!
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:59,
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Yeah, it is just about my favourite visitor attraction in the world.Read all of G. Durrell's books growing up, and getting to see his zoo was great :D
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:03,
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Trufax, it is fantastic,luckily, I live there, so I can go up whenever I can. Especially when I hear about new babies :)
( loonybean giving as good as he gets since,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:12,
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grumpyhate the bloody sunshine and my train was horribly delayed so right now I'm sulking at home when I should be in an interview.
( Seventh is somewhat subdued,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:30,
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Ah that blows, I suggest putting a beer in the freezer for 10 minutes.Just long enough for it to get nice and frosty :)
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:37,
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See, I'm a genius me!
(
Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:43,
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I'd hit it.
(
Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:28,
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Hahaha!:D
( Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:33,
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Do it in black and white, it makes it easier....Oh, wait.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:08,
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I knowBut all the miliband pictures are colour and sharp, all the kray ones are grainy and black and white, what with them being erm...dead and all.
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:12,
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Next week. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:16,
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You're thinking of The Thames. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:17,
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:DSorry, back from hols and cranky.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:15,
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Is nice! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:16,
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This looks like some bad Freddie Mercury tribute artistes ERG1008 is climbing in yo windows & snatchin yo people up,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:22,
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HahhahahahahahahaWhat she said.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:24,
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This is great!:D
*clicks*
(*clicks*
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:37,
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WHY WAS THIS NOT IN THE NEWS LETTER
(
Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:19,
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IndeeedIt's like deciding which bollock you'd rather have cut off. There is no winner.
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:20,
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The Sun Always Shines on Prince Andrew.Nice imagery.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:00,
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Hahahaha so true. My finances are a bit of a mess too - but nothing that £500,000 wouldn't sort out.I can introduce you to my mate, who once served Ian Botham a sandwich - who's interested?
Have this from the weekend, since it's so bloody miserable outside:
CFB
(Have this from the weekend, since it's so bloody miserable outside:
CFB
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:04,
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I bet Phil's oiling up the shotguns as we speak...On the subject of which, from an initial evening's play, Red Dead Redemption seems pretty damn awesome.
( barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:06,
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Hahahahaha Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:09,
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Not that I'm insinuating in any way that Prince Edward is an ageing queen.No, no, no. The fact that he's a third son and has worked in musical theatre is merely a coincidence.
( Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:11,
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Musical theatre..."in the family of performing arts I've always regarded musical theatre as being like the slightly suspect uncle who makes all the small children sit on his lap and play horsey"
Charlie Brooker (I think)
(Charlie Brooker (I think)
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:14,
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I hate musicals.I accidentally went to see Blood Brothers with Joe Scaramanga once. It was actually quite good, but I still hate them.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:17,
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I quite enjoyed Starlight Express, but it was more for the hope that one of the rollerskaters would career out of control into the cheap seats.But it didn't happen.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:19,
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I've been to a coupleMy uncle did a year or so in Phantom, so we trundled along to see that, and a friend persuaded me to go to see Sunday in the Park with George a little while ago.
I have to admit that that latter surprised me pleasantly, at least for the first half. But my expectations were very low, so a pleasant surprise doesn't actually amount to all that much...
(I have to admit that that latter surprised me pleasantly, at least for the first half. But my expectations were very low, so a pleasant surprise doesn't actually amount to all that much...
Enzyme is powered by sunlight,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:19,
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Hahahahahaha"a pleasant surprise doesn't actually amount to all that much" - there's some milage to be gained with a Marvin TPA-type there.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:25,
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Been in my head all weekend...
CF Non-compressed-to-destruction
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:31,
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:32,
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OMG!I say that to myself whenever I hang out the washing.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:33,
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This is precisely what stimulated this pic :D
(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:36,
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It was beautiful and serene this morning when I hung out the washingEverything smelled fresh and the birds were singing, the squirrels were stealing the bird food... Lovely
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:42,
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Bin a good weekend, no doubt.We are complete chav neighbours and we have to stagger our laundry so that nothing long hangs over the enormous pile of crap in our back garden.
( barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:46,
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I just have to make sure it's out of the way of the kids' paddling pool.Need to cut the grass tonight.
Spent ages digging out dandelions from lawn #1 yesterday.. still not finished
(Spent ages digging out dandelions from lawn #1 yesterday.. still not finished
bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:52,
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I spent all yesterday trying to find the air leaks in the paddling pool :(3 holes patched, and the wretched thing still deflates in about 2 hours *facepalm*
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:58,
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hahaour cats decided to jump in the pool, perhaps thinking it was a solid surface. They punctured it scrambling out
£3 for a paddling pool repair kit on ebay - free P&P!
(£3 for a paddling pool repair kit on ebay - free P&P!
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:03,
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I have the repair kit to hand, I just can't find where it's leaking out from (!) Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:04,
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What if it's leaking from the outside, Einstein...?...which is where the other holes were.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:17,
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I could buy a bigger paddling pool, and fill that with water.... and then... I could throw my paddling pool away because it's shit, maybe.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:23,
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ours was new, fresh out of the box from last yearone side deflated, but I think that was because the plug came out.. Kids thought the water was too cold!
used the water to to water the garden
(used the water to to water the garden
bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:27,
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This was a Deluxe £20 ELC Dome Pool 3-8 years bought 2 years ago.I'm not going to chuck it away until I've covered every sodding inch in repair plasters!
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:30,
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what you need is some silcon sealant - spread it all over the exterior surface:)
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:33,
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Paddling pools are for keeping beer cold.I suspect this position will shift slightly when I begin sprogging, but for now that is their raison d'etre.
( barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:31,
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Have they put some new hashtag coding into the board that automatically generates a link?Or is it some basic html script that's always worked and I'm being thick about?
( barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:58,
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If you type in a hash it thinks it's a search linkIt's been this way for a while. I don't know why.
( Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:00,
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*fires Photon Spanging Pans*
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:33,
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arrrghh, Ster Trek Spang, red alert!!!
Jeccius Steam Borderlands 2 junkie,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:35,
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Oh flipping heck!
/goes back on holiday :)
Barbarossa is not my real name,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:36,
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I suppose I had that coming...
(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:38,
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That's some top brandishing/glowering action right there.
(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:42,
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^What she said Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:58,
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I love you so much!Hahahaaaaaa! His FAYCE!
( Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:42,
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he hedth must be spanged regularly just in case
(
amoebaboy chose for death by unga bunga on,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:48,
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TLH keeps a pan under her pillow . . . Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:54,
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Ha ha ha!I thought you were gonna make a "Make it snow!" pun :D
( Redsushi! Whoop! Whoop! Yes, that one!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:40,
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One of the earliest b3ta pics I remember was Picard's Sewing Machine repairs...
(
barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:47,
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If you were any other person, I'd spang you where you stand! Office LOL*clickety*
( doog Don't read this.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:58,
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Ha ha haTop stuff!
( Si o doom Fund me! No catering cost involved! bit.ly/1bFtzN2,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:24,
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Fantastic!:D
*clicks*
(*clicks*
Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day,
Mon 24 May 2010, 11:39,
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hahahaJesus!
( Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:06,
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WHERE YA GOING HERMAN? Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:04,
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I think he's gone where all the other b3tans haveoutside in the Sun.
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:11,
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it's not too bad being in the office todayall the ladies are showing off their tans in little tops.
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:15,
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........outside? There is an "Outside"?hullo freebs
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:16,
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Apparently..Hello Steve
I'm in shorts today - but it's cooler than yesterday and slightly overcast.
Yesterday was a scorcher.
(I'm in shorts today - but it's cooler than yesterday and slightly overcast.
Yesterday was a scorcher.
bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:23,
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remember to roll one leg up to show you're in the Wide Awake Clubit's baking hot here.... not a cloud in the sky
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:29,
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It's like Schiffer here..Cloudier...
( bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:31,
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Swindon?
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:16,
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Tourist Information boards in Swindonmerely state how far away Bath, Marlborough and Cirencester are
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:18,
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:23,
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you should comewe need fresh genes
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:24,
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stick them in the washing machine like everyone else.
(
theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:32,
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it's cheaper and easier to rob new ones from Asda Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:33,
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you're not making this easy..... :Dok, at a guess, the most popular destinations out of the UK are France and Spain, so, for the process of elimination, somewhere in either of those?
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:25,
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I can do webcomics me
Click for bigger (43 kb)
Geeky references? Check!
Sweary? Check!
Stupid and really bad joke? Check!
Edit: The hairy bloke is Jesus, and the one in the water is Prince Namor... Never a good sign when you need to explain your joke, think I shall stop doing this kind of thing now :)
Made of RIS? Check! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:39,
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I've got a joke for you:Stephen Merchant went to the pub,
"a bottle of Magners, please"
Barman says,"what can I get you?"
Stephen says "thanks barkeep"
("a bottle of Magners, please"
Barman says,"what can I get you?"
Stephen says "thanks barkeep"
bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:48,
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Fry & Laurie FTW! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:51,
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*checks filename*ARGH - TEH TEXT RIS!
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:58,
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Sorry 'Boss, but I'm RISing a bit, here!good nings B3ta!
( theoriginalsteve <this space intentionally left blank>,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:43,
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Have have no idea what this is about, but I kind of like it. Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:52,
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^thisI like the pencil strokes
( Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:59,
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Yeah, nice arts. Ris'ing all over the world, but I like the arts
(
doog Don't read this.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:00,
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And I like itI like it
I like it
I like it
I la-la like it
la-la-li
here we go risin' all over the world
(I like it
I like it
I la-la like it
la-la-li
here we go risin' all over the world
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:04,
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i got the jokeexcept i thought it was aquaman. but same thing really
( monstrinho do biscoito teeeshurts = www.nogunarmy.com,
Mon 24 May 2010, 10:39,
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She'll only spend it on Bollinger
Hitler's Barber Soylent Green is high in saturated fat,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:04,
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pffft'I don't have a pot to piss in'
TRY GETTING A JOB LOVE
(TRY GETTING A JOB LOVE
Finite "Aardvark sorted out my shit!" on,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:20,
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why doesnt she borrow some cash off her daughters?they seem to be out most nights, pissing the civil list against a wall
(,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:45,
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$500,000 for a cup of tea mateproast from last night
did b3ta go down overnight or are the gayshift striking for better conditions?
(did b3ta go down overnight or are the gayshift striking for better conditions?
Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 9:32,
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something doesn't quite look right
MrSanity has maybe kicked the WoW habit forever,
Mon 24 May 2010, 3:12,
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IndeedYay for unexpected bipeds! (an old pea)
(
RedHouse over yonder,
Mon 24 May 2010, 3:25,
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Seabiscuit?????lol
( Shazzoir Old enough to know better young enough not to care,
Mon 24 May 2010, 12:24,
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looks pretty 'armless to me : )morning all
edit. beaten to it..
(edit. beaten to it..
claptonista ,the idiot boy..........,
Mon 24 May 2010, 8:31,
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Out of puff Spice
Hitler's Barber Soylent Green is high in saturated fat,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:48,
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erm.... I'm afraid I still would oldpoint is up in space doing important work for NASA.,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:51,
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fair pointbut you'd think she'd finally crack a smile now she's allowed the odd cream cake.
( Hitler's Barber Soylent Green is high in saturated fat,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:55,
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I think she looks a lot better with some meat on her bones MrSanity has maybe kicked the WoW habit forever,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:58,
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meh, I've had her PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Mon 24 May 2010, 2:13,
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would**did, actually
( PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Mon 24 May 2010, 2:14,
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Oh, thank goodness.Someone fed the poor woman.
( Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better,
Mon 24 May 2010, 2:55,
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They're preparing for invasion! We won't stand a chance!SHIT JUST GOT REAL, PEOPLE!
(
Mu Dinofiddler,
Mon 24 May 2010, 0:48,
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Oh noes!And I'm not allowed in the bunker!
( Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better,
Mon 24 May 2010, 0:50,
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well, if you would cut down on the broccoli and Heineken Beer... PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage,
Mon 24 May 2010, 0:57,
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Oh, shut up!You'll be objecting to the garlic sausage and the curried beans next.
( Crystal Magnet Like a diamond geezer, but better,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:01,
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send in the crabmagnets!
its our only hope.
amoebaboy chose for death by unga bunga on,
Mon 24 May 2010, 1:33,
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