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(cooters Long Time Lurker, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:49, archived)
# Arf!
Lurker Extraordinaire indeed :P
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:56, archived)
# business as usual for city
(I helped save b3ta! Paul_P http://www.Paul-hub.com, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:01, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:11, archived)
# ROCK ON TOMMY!
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:12, archived)
# I saw a kid playing air guitar at the station the other day.
It was most amusing - he was really getting into it - staring at the imaginary crowd, and head-banging at the right places. He clearly thought he was actually at Wembley, and that he looked really cool.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:13, archived)
# I bet he looked really cool.
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:14, archived)
# 7/4 on, mate.
Fiver each way for ya?
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:19, archived)
# Fuck it, make it £4!
(I helped save b3ta! Whato_Jeeves Did your surgery require a vaginal mesh patch?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:24, archived)
# If the other day happened to be 1983, then I was that kid..
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:16, archived)
# RAWK
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:25, archived)
# always look to who will profit the most...
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:40, archived)
# No Escape (1994)
In this film, convicts are dumped on a remote island with no guards, no help & no rules except one: try to escape and you get shot.

I'm taking a collection to buy a remote island, anyone wanna chip in?
(I helped save b3ta! Haku Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:41, archived)
# I prefer Escape from New York
Just lock it down, let em fend for themselves and landmine all routes out
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:57, archived)
# ^ This
with added 'Thank the lord they gave up on that remake'
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:20, archived)
# if there are no guards, who does the shooting?
(I helped save b3ta! RiffRaff lurking like a lurky thing, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:58, archived)
# Daily Mail readers
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:01, archived)
# haha!
(I helped save b3ta! RiffRaff lurking like a lurky thing, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:40, archived)
# no guards on the island
they're constantly being monitored by satellite and there are boats in the sea, forget the finer details, been years since I last saw it and I may have some crossover memories from the Van Damm film Double Team which also features an island of convicted killers
(I helped save b3ta! Haku Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:02, archived)
# So not too different from Battle Royale?
(I helped save b3ta! Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:04, archived)
# no, not too different
but I like your thought train, PPV convict fight-to-the-death matches, throw in a thunderdome too :)
(I helped save b3ta! Haku Orange Whip? Orange Whip? Three Orange Whips., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:07, archived)
# Oh definitely :)
If I ever became prime-minister I'd totally bring that up in Parliament. We could annex the Isle of Wight (NINJA EDIT) or some other wee island and let the battle commence.

Oh, and release a leopard every few days.
(I helped save b3ta! Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:15, archived)
# Stornoway isn't an island :(
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:16, archived)
# I'm sorry, what? ;3
(I helped save b3ta! Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:20, archived)
# The Isle of Wight isn't that wee
:(
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:30, archived)
# it's a peninsula
(Canazza is mostly listening to Yes, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 14:43, archived)
# *something about updated 2011 Norwegian edition*
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:29, archived)
# The Isle of Wight?
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:36, archived)
# The Isle of Fright more like

*dances*
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:50, archived)
# We're already on the remote island
maybe it's time to push them off the White Cliffs of Dover
(I helped save b3ta! SauronWibble I'll hold it, you lick it..., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 14:49, archived)
# why havent they invented ripley-proof glass like in 'Aliens' yet?
Break the glass... break it, break it!
I FOOKIN CORR MATE!
(I helped save b3ta! taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:56, archived)
# Given some of the 'interesting' cases turning up in court
this would not surprise me in the least

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8692007/London-riots-youth-worker-and-Army-recruit-among-those-in-court.html
(I helped save b3ta! Joe Scaramanga with a G-double-O-D vibration, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:01, archived)
# lol
"Several alleged looters admitted to trespassing in shops but insisted they were looking for friends at the time to try and persuade them to leave."

Yes, that would be right.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:07, archived)
# Indeed.
I mean - why on earth would they lie?
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:12, archived)
# They wouldn't, of course!
It's what anyone would do. Every time I go past a shop with broken shutters and a smashed window and full of pricks in hoodies stealing flatscreen tellies I *always* go in to find my chums and tell them that they shouldn't be doing this.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:13, archived)
# I like this one:
"He did not enter a plea and the case was adjourned. He was granted conditional bail on the grounds that he wears an electronic tag and adheres to a curfew."

Adheres to a curfew that sent him into the nearest riot to loot and pillage, trustworthy tag that.
(I helped save b3ta! SauronWibble I'll hold it, you lick it..., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 14:52, archived)
# 8D
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:11, archived)
# DAMN YOU MR X!
*shakes fist*
(I helped save b3ta! guffguff fuckes your gradeds balls!, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 13:42, archived)
# isn't this an actual parable in economics?
steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/chap02p1.html
though the original didn't mention blackberry messenger as far as i know
(I helped save b3ta! plentyofants more ghee, vicar?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 22:15, archived)
# Behold the ringleader!
... www.richglazier.co.uk/
(a bit obvious, really)
(I helped save b3ta! scruss, Fri 12 Aug 2011, 14:58, archived)
# Livid.
(I helped save b3ta! Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:32, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:38, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:06, archived)
# Why is that poor girl rolled up in a rug?
(I helped save b3ta! thecrapgatsby isn't listening LALALALALALA, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:25, archived)
# that made me angry, poor kid
fucking sickening
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:41, archived)
# how do you know he wasn't a looter?

(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:51, archived)
# true he could have been
but his being covered in his own blood and very disorientated make me assume he got kicked in possibly for trying to stop looting, like many other people over the last few days.

I try to presume innocent until proven guilty.

*EDIT - he is a Malaysian student who was on his was to get something to eat. He had his jaw and teeth broken, then phone and wallet stolen
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:13, archived)
# Maybe a student
chavs love students.
(I helped save b3ta! ..wil, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:16, archived)
# Also, he was wearing flip-flops.
Not really footware suited to looting, but ideal for casual strolling, or tourism.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:17, archived)
# I've been looking for his story but can't find it..
(I helped save b3ta! prodigy69 broke b3ta and made everyone leave, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:25, archived)
# It was nicked from his Rucksack
(I helped save b3ta! The Great Architect is still waiting for his account to be deleted on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:28, archived)
#
www.mmail.com.my/content/79921-mail-exclusive-daylight-thuggery
(I helped save b3ta! Kung-fu Womble The pope is smelly, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:28, archived)
# Fucking hell
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:37, archived)
# they interviewed him in hospital bed
he's ok. recovering in hospital. he was out buying food thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2011/8/10/nation/9272131&sec=nation
(poocheim No al calcio moderno, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:30, archived)
# It's the kids that turned him over I feel sorry for.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:54, archived)
# yes
poor lambs
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:38, archived)
# You think Hulk puny?
No one steal Hulk's stuff!
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Howdy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:19, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Bela Lugosi's Dad, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:24, archived)
# that happens to a lot of Wilburs
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:29, archived)
[challenge entry] Only Superman can save him n-


Uhh...
(I helped save b3ta! Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:36, archived)
#
u
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:58, archived)
# Clever git :P
(I helped save b3ta! Bourbon Fox Bourbon is a moron, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:05, archived)
# :)
(I helped save b3ta! Colonel Boris "...a desperate Buzzfeed imitation...", Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:12, archived)
# hahahaha
mentalness
(I helped save b3ta! taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:00, archived)
# That's how I'm doing it.
(Meagrom, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:11, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:19, archived)
# Hahaha! Woo!



(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:32, archived)
# old joke--different venue :)
edit: yours is bereft of gratuitous butt shot
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:34, archived)
# well, judging by the barman's hair . . .
judging by the barman's hair . . .he looks a bit of a butt


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:37, archived)
# well just in case
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:45, archived)
# hahaha!
Braw!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:08, archived)
[challenge entry]
(arctisticus, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:13, archived)
# Well, I think this is great!
:D
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:18, archived)
#
thanks :]
(arctisticus, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 15:40, archived)
# hahaha
I understand this and think it's very clever!!
(I helped save b3ta! camp freddy well, would you look at that!, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 13:14, archived)
# hahaha
splendid.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 13:36, archived)
# Linktastic
(dyllon nice beaver., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 17:36, archived)
# 'ningles all. Have a non-riot based post.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:24, archived)
# what a lovely village
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:26, archived)
# I photoshopped it out of cheese.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:27, archived)
# I'm suspicious of the man lurking in the background
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:38, archived)
# Which one?
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:43, archived)
# hahahahahah
nicely done - I was looking for them on there originally...
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:43, archived)
# They're outside their shop
in which you can but a section of three different chords.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:44, archived)
# I thought it looked odd without Henry.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:47, archived)
# Meme fest ensues!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:48, archived)
# great Henryage
have 10 points
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:00, archived)
# *buts a section of three different chords*
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:30, archived)
# haha
Nicely slipped in, as the actress etceterad
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:48, archived)
# haha
this is delightful and may help explain the drastic decline in ell populations in recent years
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:27, archived)
# and that of the eel too!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:27, archived)
# I'm more concerned about the ells
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:31, archived)
#
Bloody ells!
(Good Penny, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:32, archived)
# They generally live in handcarts.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:34, archived)
# And their neighbours are kays and emms:)
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:35, archived)
# Hahaha nice one
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:35, archived)
# g'ning Mr Average
(I helped save b3ta! bilbobarneybobs I'll be 14 in b3ta years soon., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:43, archived)
# Hellow mister four bees!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:01, archived)
# Pfffft
That's just earned you a David


'nings
(I helped save b3ta! XLVII .uk, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:45, archived)
# sexah!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:01, archived)
# At least thay got the correct spieces, it's all those bloody "rogue" eel clampers that worry me.
Last week I saw a lobster wearing the yellow boot!
(I helped save b3ta! The magic of chutney Shakes it like an Instagram filter!, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:46, archived)
# Someone think of the children!!!
Mmmm succulent, buttery children.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:57, archived)
# Salmon ought to tell him that's a lovely hat
'ning!


(I helped save b3ta! Sir Aunty Grampa Dave the Hat - enjoying a post-meridian muncheon - Ta! Cannaoogim!?, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:04, archived)
# Click for desperate attempts at justification:
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:36, archived)
# Someone's looted your picture!


you're missing a 'b'
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:37, archived)
# Hahahahhahahaha fixed
EDIT: No I'm not - it's witty, post-modern comment on the state of education in Britain today.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:38, archived)
# Hurrah!
I always's enjoy blaming things on Thatcher.

I hope everyone enjoys your picture for what it is and doesn't enter into a big argument.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:40, archived)
# Hahahaha
Hippy.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:42, archived)
# *picks up a mid-sized hefting brick*
Say that again, racist.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:50, archived)
# I SAID
SHUT UP, YOU HIPPY.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:51, archived)
# *loots a new age bookstore*
That'll teach ya!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:00, archived)
# Yeah right like that would happen.
"Ooo hey look Strykah - the karmic teachings in the Buddhist philosophy within the teachings of Zen purport that actions visited upon others will be visited upon those doing the actions ... "
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:08, archived)
# lol
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:27, archived)
# Found it!
'b' *points* Look, there it is!
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:05, archived)
# arf!
(I helped save b3ta! h3donist tryin' to play me out as if my name is Sega.., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:43, archived)
# Nasty men!!! Grrrr!
strange to be sympathising with the police for a change

if only the rioters had the brains to target bankers' mansions instead, i could get back to normal
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:45, archived)
# ah well, I tried
I wasn't trying to justify anything about the riots, just that I feel people are losing sight of the fact that the government have caused the disorder. I don't sympathise with the people burning and looting whatsoever, but am not willing to go down the route of blinkered branding of the problem as just chav scum being chav scum.

There are reasons behind this and there are ways to prevent it happening.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:46, archived)
# What are the reasons, and how has the government caused the disorder?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:51, archived)
# I don't know the precise reasons, just suggested a few possibilities
the government has made cuts in areas which were too vulnerable to cut. Benefits have been reduced, less jobs for uneducated/unqualified people, funds have been and are being reallocated away from hospitals in more deprived areas of England, less money allocated to community development schemes and social housing... etc. Again, in case this angers anyone that I'm not appearing to jump on the all-out hatred wagon, I'm not justifying, sympathising etc *yawn* that's enough.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:59, archived)
# Still don't get it.
I've been unemployed, I've been bored, I've been angry.

Oddly, I've never thought to loot and burn down a shop to get what I want, though, I've always been under the impression that I should get a job and earn the money to get what I want. Clearly I was wrong about this. I'm going to start mugging grannies - they tend to go down like a sack of spuds once you hit them.

I take it McDonald's aren't taking on staff these days. Or Starbucks. Or Burger King. Or Greggs. Or the council.

Yeah. I'm not happy. I think I might go and torch something. It's my right (I know my rights). What are they gonna do? The prisons are full - give me an ASBO? I'll wear it.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:05, archived)
# yes, you've been brought up well.
others have not.

We can either ignore that environments exist in which people are brought up to display such behaviour or seek to deal with the reasons for it.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:14, archived)
# Well - if you'd like to lay out the excuses for not bringing someone up well, that would be great.
"Being poor" is not an excuse. I know plenty of people - some of whom don't even have their own butlers - who are impecably behaved, despite having been brought up very much on the wrong side of the tracks.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:19, archived)
# "Why are chavs" is a huge enigma, though.
What you've just said there is pretty much "chavs because chavs".
Once again, though, you might be right. The whole thing might just be noise.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:23, archived)
# not excuses, reasons.
poor health and education of parents are factors.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:29, archived)
# It's a recursive thing, isn't it?
Being brought up badly would explain why that person then brings someone else up badly.

From a lot of comments I've seen dismissing any idea of upbringing being a factor, I think a lot of people don't like the idea that we can be raised to be bad, simply because it means that our personalities are merely a product of luck, rather than some magical unchangable thing special to ourselves.

That said, excusing the violence entirely because of 'society' is not only dumb, but incredibly patronising to people from the same backgrounds who do not act like that.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:44, archived)
# I've said many times, that I am not excusing anything
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:48, archived)
# Sorry, that line wasn't aimed at you.
I agree with your stance.

It was more a general comment on many comments I've seen that do seem completely divided down two extreme opinions, and refusing to accept that it can be both the individual and society to blame.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:54, archived)
# Oh, the upbringing angle
that's even more baffling territory. I'm a bit afraid the riots will be used to argue for all sorts of harsh and primitive discipline, and cause pointless heartache and pain and screwed-upness for future generations, who will still riot anyway.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:21, archived)
# yep that's a valid worry
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:30, archived)
# Sadly I suspect you are right.
The whole thing flags up lots of long-term problems which need fixing - schooling etc, but I suspect that they will all be ignored for quick fixes in dealing with crime after the event.
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:49, archived)
# I was more worrying about headteachers recommending that parents say "no" more
and blaming the riots on a failure of parents to say "no". And then the parents say "no" to their kids a lot, thinking that they're instilling a sense of discipline and obedience, resulting in kids who are both angrier and more ignorant (because they haven't been allowed experiences), and worse at relating to people (because any attempt at negotiation over something they want just leads to "no").
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:03, archived)
# ahem
Just because the rioters are "criminal scum", does not mean it is not sensible to work out (and implement) ways of reducing the production of "criminal scum" attitudes in the future.

Edit: it's nice that y'all can pattern match and work out that vandals/looters are antisocial criminals. But pattern matching gives only a diagnosis, it isn't a cure. A cure involves understanding the dynamics of how people come to behave like that, and working to change or control those dynamics.
(haberman is singing in the changes, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:58, archived)
# Agreed!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:09, archived)
# excellent
I notice there aren't any angry responses to this. Is it because you're more concise, or simply because you're absolutely right?
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 22:10, archived)
# Whose benefits have been reduced?
I think standard JSA and housing benefit are still the same (though there were some rumblings about changing the latter soon, I don't think it's happened yet). The threshold for what counts as disability was changed, I think, but is that all?

I'm not sure which publicly-funded jobs employ the unqualified. I don't think a vast number of unqualified workers have been sacked from employment by the government, but I might be wrong. I think in the riot-struck cities there is still plenty of shitwork in factories, and was even through the recession.

The rioting isn't happening the deprived areas of England, it's happening in the biggest cities.

Still, cuts make people generally cross. Cuts are a factor. Then you have to ask whether they're a thing to blame and regret, or not.
Like how if I go out dressed in an extraordinarily sexually provocative way and get raped, the way I dressed was a factor, but it's not to blame.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:11, archived)
# JSA is now EA? I think and the criteria are different and cuts to the amounts and thresholds have come in for some
Lack of social care, support and education contributes to people developing a disrespect for society, police, etc. My suggestions before were possible factors that cause collective frustration and anger.

I work in social care just now and am constantly trying to encourage the kids I work with to respect the police and the law, but I often see that they don't give a fuck, because they don't have anything to aspire to. The kids that show the most potential to become model citizens are the ones I and others have managed to motivate to get jobs, though actually getting them jobs has been slow and very difficult. Others, where they have no prospects have a kind of learned helplessness and don't feel the need to adhere to any rules, be that a result of peers, upbringing, helplessness, lack of education, whatever. It is a wider societal problem that is at the moment being expressed by these riots. The problems need to be addressed by the government or things will only get worse.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:26, archived)
# I wasn't going to join in
as I prefer to discuss weighty matters with people I know in real life.

I agree with some of your arguments but also empathise with Vagabond's point of view, and ultimately, like _Felix I think, I believe that there's a middle ground (please visit me on my fence sometime).

Anyway, all I reall wanted to add is that I think the last line of your post above is correct and verry very important.

(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:41, archived)
# I'm not sure what it means.
I'm guessing "employ more people in public services" - right?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:46, archived)
# Not necessarily, and I don't have any quick answers
But I believe rhetoric from both government and opposition politicians achieves nothing and that long-term positive action (whatever that is) by government rather than negative quick-fixes is the way to make the current situation less rather than more likely in future.
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:57, archived)
# Things like this can't have helped...
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/jul/29/young-people-gangs-youth-clubs-close
(I helped save b3ta! monkeon schmonkeon, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:00, archived)
# "the fact that the government have caused the disorder"
No they have not - the rioters have caused the disorder.

This is not in any way about disenfranchisement; it's about opportunitism only.

The blame lies at nobody's feet but those who have taken part in the riots.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:54, archived)
# I want to know what broon's theory is, though.
Your explanation might be right, but is a bit unsatisfying.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:58, archived)
# That's me all over.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:05, archived)
# It's clear that you don't wish to look at the wider problems that have been happily ignored for many years
If they continue to be ignored by the government, this sort of disorder will keep happening in the future.

Of course the people perpetrating these crimes are responsible for their actions, but these people are not created in a vacuum. Arresting the perpetrators is necessary, but is only a short-term solution.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:09, archived)
# In this instance there aren't any wider problems.
It's just opportunism.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:20, archived)
# in your expert opinion, I suppose
keep watching the bbc, it agrees with you.
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:29, archived)
# Joe S has it on the money:
b3ta.com/links/665517

(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:32, archived)
# I agree
so does monkeon b3ta.com/board/10504459

and haberman b3ta.com/board/10504458
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 22:08, archived)
# *Sigh*
Okay, I think there's been too much roundabouting here, and it seems that the message you originally put down has been twisted...

Yes I agree that there are problems in Britain and yes, people have a right to feel wronged if they have tried and failed to make a life for themselves

However, attaching this legitimate outrage to the recent LOOTING seems like a bit of a betrayal... There are plenty of disaffected, unemployed, rightfully angry people who have not decided to take the opportunity to destroy public property or private businesses and make off with whatever they can carry...

There are ways and means to change the state of things, wanton, aimless destruction is going to solve precisely NOTHING... So people who want change tend not to go down that route!
(Fenristhewolf ..back once again on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:43, archived)
# I agree. I simply posited reasons that this is happening, these are not exhaustive reasons, simply a wider reason than just a lot of individual anti-social people
(I helped save b3ta! drbroon abloooobloobloo, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:51, archived)
# It's a fair point
The social issues are the tinder-box here... but the bandwagoning effect has stolen any credibility from anyone who had an original grievance, at least in this case
(Fenristhewolf ..back once again on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 11:57, archived)
[challenge entry]
(MonkeySandwich eats a kitten, leaves a chair, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:19, archived)
# Beware of trainee kneivels
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:20, archived)
# Isn't that Shakespeare?
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:54, archived)
# Is that 42 double decker buses I see before me?
Ramp towards my motorbike?
Come, let me leap thee
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:02, archived)
# nah - that's Medieval Knievel
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:20, archived)
# I love the absurdity in this parallel :)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:28, archived)
# Medieval Knievel on a weevil?
(MonkeySandwich eats a kitten, leaves a chair, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:39, archived)
[challenge entry] Have a related pea
(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:40, archived)
# What will those evil thugs stoop to next??
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:15, archived)
# ahahahahaa!
(HyperSquiZ *Thbbbbbt*, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:23, archived)
# Ally oop!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:36, archived)
# Hahahaha this
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:40, archived)
# Hahaha
Those evil cunts!
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:47, archived)
# Bundun, surely?
surely?
(jads grufallo bill, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:43, archived)
# I remember the days when a quo shop was so subtle at times, I didn't even see them after they pointed them out to me
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:03, archived)
# Not this one, mind
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:04, archived)
# That's them far right
dressed in black.
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:15, archived)
# Those were the days my friend
we thought they'd never end.

But they did.

(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:36, archived)
# we'd sing and dance forever and a day
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:42, archived)
# Morning!
My local asda got smashed up last night. Here's a cartoon to cheer them up:

(I helped save b3ta! dogbomb, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:08, archived)
# ^ Fact...
Ning DB!

(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:01, archived)
# Erm...
Source?
(I helped save b3ta! Halibut If you think education is expensive, try crack., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:12, archived)
# The Crying Game?
(Canazza is mostly listening to Yes, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:24, archived)
# From a film called "En plein coeur"
I think. That's what my trawl brought up.
(I helped save b3ta! Varmint, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:45, archived)
# oh my
(I helped save b3ta! RiffRaff lurking like a lurky thing, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:16, archived)
# My favourite Ning!
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:32, archived)
# :)
Better than these ones?

&
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:55, archived)
# Yes
although I like those too
(I helped save b3ta! Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:19, archived)
# badum..
and indeed, tish. ha ha ha.
(robneymcplum spiced up his life on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:01, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:05, archived)
# ^ I love this...
and I love you...
and I love horses b3ta...
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:56, archived)
# Hooray!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:15, archived)
# i cringed as usual
keep up the good work :D
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:19, archived)
# crowds are quickly dispersed with full riot gere


'ning, Wobb--with your Vag Menagerie
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:55, archived)
# Needs more Gerbil.

allegedly
(I helped save b3ta! addickted has attained freedom, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:20, archived)
# I live for the day when
I drive down a country road and see a "Gere's Gerbil Farm" sign. But I probably won't, unless I put it there. But that's better than nothing.
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:58, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:21, archived)
# ahahh
that busted-again look :)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:30, archived)
# :D
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:07, archived)
# that would make me move on
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:18, archived)
# Wow.. Loads of requests again yesterday...
Kitty Fantastico: Jack Haley and Rosanna Arquette
mediocre: Devon Aoki from Sin City.
Drunken Miss Ho: Norma Shearer and Jack Haley
RedHouse Kate O'Mara
claptonista: Lorraine Pearson from the poptastic 5 star tomorrow? - now that must be the hardest photo I have ever had to find - go on, try it...

(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:14, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:15, archived)
# Phoar

Good morning WB!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:40, archived)
# Ningels
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:43, archived)
# oh i do like a bit of O'Mara
in a non lesbian way of course
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:26, archived)
# I doff my hat to you and your image sourcing skills
: D
(I helped save b3ta! claptonista ,the idiot boy.........., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:26, archived)
# It took me hours... literally...
* I love a challenge and eventually found this one on the CD cover site...

By the way b3ta, I am off on holiday on Friday so no requests after tomorrow...
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:34, archived)
# Are you off to anywhere nice?
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:55, archived)
# Scotlandshire
and i will be having a go at this!

* Parp
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:01, archived)
# Nice!
I did a zipwire course in Costa Rica once. About 15 cables, zigzagging across a canyon in the pouring rain. Longest one was 300m IIRC.
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:07, archived)
# I have done a few Go-Apes....
Thetford, Black Park, Wendover Woods etc

Looking forward to this big long one though!
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:58, archived)
# Everyone is looking forwards to the big long one!
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:16, archived)
# ah, i did that in thetford forest
it was a hoot, though one of the routes through one obstacle was fucking knackering and on another i fucked my knackers in the harness
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:15, archived)
# ^ Ha ha ha...
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:57, archived)
# Sigh. A day without Wobs is like a day without Doris.
Elya Baskin and Hulk Hogan for tomorrow.
(Kitty Fantastico "Dwarf, Anorexic and In a Fight ", Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:37, archived)
# Doris?

As Kitty and RedHouse make the most suggestions, would either of you fancy taking the challenge for a week?
- They would not have to be VAG CREAMS, just birthday people shopped / badly drawn?

* Or anyone else out there... I will be away from this Friday, until a week on Saturday.
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:01, archived)
# Wibs, you've not read my profile *sigh*
I'm not up to the challenge :(
As usual, Kitty already pulled the best straws, so I'll add Emperor Ian Mcdiarmid and model Carolyn Murphy.
(and for your personal research, Dru 'NSFW' Berrymore)
(I helped save b3ta! RedHouse over yonder, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 12:08, archived)
# * I have now...
although you could do something really shit nice in Paint like Smash Monkey does...

Also: Dru 'NSFW' Berrymore - O_O
(I helped save b3ta! Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 13:04, archived)
#


Click for bigger (114 kb)
(spinger works in lefty heaven, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:43, archived)
# CMCCCC?
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:44, archived)
# Creamy Mediterranean Christmassy Chili Cunt Cum

cereal topping of champions
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:54, archived)
# It's by Culture Club
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Wed 10 Aug 2011, 9:17, archived)
# LOL BART
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:45, archived)
# p LOL
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:48, archived)
# 69 LOL LOL
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:53, archived)
# Tem Out!
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:03, archived)
# one pound twenty nine?
no wonder they're looting
(I helped save b3ta! artifus is doing it all wrong, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:48, archived)
# the trick is to go down the world foods aisle
they have all the same spices and stuff, for the same price, but in packets 20 times the size
(I helped save b3ta! Spunky McPunk not dead yet, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 8:38, archived)
# very clever :D
clicks and nips off to rearrange my spice rack
(I helped save b3ta! cakeburglar still bored with Freebase, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:58, archived)
# Sorry Ten out?
I don't get it
(I helped save b3ta! mediocre ha ha ha, you're reading this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:41, archived)
# Bart bart red thai
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:42, archived)
# since this is disco night

(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:15, archived)
# thats what im talkin about!
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:25, archived)
# he's found that time warp
only to find it was actually a head warp
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:28, archived)
# disco, and dubious eighties flashbacks
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEL_BT_Z6Yg
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:42, archived)
# I didn't see that one, but I think I might have liked it
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:20, archived)
# I even paid to see his '93 outing, Reckless Kelly
it wasn't great, but it did have Alexei Sayle in it, if I recall
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:41, archived)
# I WAS DATING AN AUSTRALIAN AT THE TIME, THAT IS MY EXCUSE
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:07, archived)
# when we want excuses, we'll demand them :)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:09, archived)
# I paid to see Warlock: The Armageddon for the same reason
 
also highly forgettable but OH, JULIAN
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:15, archived)
# fuck, i'm not dressed for disco night
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:01, archived)
# PARTY NAKED
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:02, archived)
# WAVE YOUR DICK LIKE A LIGHTSTICK
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:07, archived)
# very light, hyper light (as in weight)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:21, archived)
#
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jux-Zi-IucU
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:29, archived)
# yeehawww :)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:08, archived)
# round, round and round she goes - where she stops, nobody knows
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:28, archived)
#
www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEJtlt9LdEU
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:37, archived)
# ahhhahhahh I really need to download these shows
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:44, archived)
#
(I helped save b3ta! Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:43, archived)
#


CLICK FOR BIGGER
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:05, archived)
# woah.. trippy
/obvious response
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:09, archived)
# U FILTAD
 
cool effect though
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:14, archived)
# try it then :D
anyway, it it does makes fires look cool
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:17, archived)
# I don't think this plugin is MSPAINT compatible
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:18, archived)
# maybe it's dying down now
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:20, archived)
# nope, nope, still tripping balls
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:03, archived)
# I wish I had a hypercolour shirt to go with this image
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:21, archived)
# might take some kind of phosphorescent ink, or summit
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:23, archived)
# do you remember these? I had one, yellow and blue I think
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypercolor
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:29, archived)
# yea, thermochormic stuff
it's novel, but the colors seem a bit bland, for what that's worth. Something splashy and glo-in-the-dark might have been a more popular result
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:33, archived)
# they were shit, in retrospect, but such was the style at the time
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:46, archived)
# oh goody !
let's pump ourselves with magic monkey juice and take a trip to spaceland
(I helped save b3ta! Clueless Egg Cunt ...of course i'm beach ready!, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:42, archived)
# ...but do not drive afterward
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:57, archived)
# I like your gimmick here
and the other one (gymnast, I think it was)
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:26, archived)
# technically, ueah. It was a kid backflipping off of a picnice table and whacking his chin on the end of aforementioned able
(I helped save b3ta! PedroHin Come along & ride on a Flantastic Voyage, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:33, archived)
# Do you remember (or know) where there is a
rotation tool in P'shop that uses numerical input for degrees of rotation? I recall using it but I have no clue where it is right now.
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:37, archived)
# Rotation
For the whole image, use Image --> Image Rotation --> Arbitrary

For a layer, the easiest way is to use Ctr+t, then input a number into the rotation box


 
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 5:54, archived)
# NICE!!!
it used to drive me mad not being able to rotate a single layer
(I helped save b3ta! real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:00, archived)
# OH GET YOU WITH YOUR FOE TOE SHOPS
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:01, archived)
# YOU COULD HAVE IT TOO IF YOU'D JUST GET OFF YOUR ASS AND BREAK SOME WINDOWS
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:03, archived)
# haven't had a proper riot here since '84, even that was over in a day
www.nzhistory.net.nz/media/photo/queen-street-riots-1984
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:07, archived)
# From a cursory reading of the comments I learned the following new word:
Chillybin.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:14, archived)
# yeah that's newzilin for "esky", or I suppose "cooler"
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:28, archived)
# Back when New Orleans was a "chocolate city"
They would invite you to "...touch the cooler," if you wanted to indulge in a beer. I learned that from Ira Glass.
In Texas, it's called an "igloo." Because there's no innuit there, innit?
*hangs head in shame.*
(dingomart thought he was fluent in bile, just not like this, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:14, archived)
# I nearly went out with an Eskimo once but she just wasn't that Innuit
 
I'LL GET MY COAT
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:17, archived)
# furthermore, if Dave fucking Dobbyn had only been pulled from the stage and mercilessly stomped into a coma, we would all have been spared the past twenty seven years of his fucking awful shit music
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:08, archived)
# thanks--I'm too lazy to look when we have the willing :D
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:19, archived)
# FUCKING CALM DOWN BARRY, FUCKING HELL
 

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(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:31, archived)
# tis very quiet around here right now.
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:41, archived)
# is everybody out looting or something? WHEN THEY SHOULD BE FUCKING
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:55, archived)
# Fuck knows
Nicely slopped pic, btw.
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:58, archived)
# yeah came out alright, but the more I looked at that older pig in the middle the more he looked like Gary Glitter, I don't like it
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:16, archived)
# now that you mention it.
I don't blame you.
/creepy
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:18, archived)
# D'ya wanna be in my gang, my gang, my gang
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:06, archived)
# COME ON, COME ON
www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fJaty1kyI
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 6:10, archived)
# I can picture that sentence as lyrics in a Bee Gees song.
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:59, archived)
# I heard some 70s Bee Gees a couple of weeks ago
on someone's car radio. I'd forgotten how completely fucking ridiculous they sounded.
(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:05, archived)
# Yeah I still wonder why they chose to sing like that.
But I'm sure Maurice Gibb is now in a heaven full of beards and tight underpants..
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:11, archived)
# aren't they all dead by now?
 
AND IF NOT, WHY NOT
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:17, archived)
# Did you see the interview where they walked off in a paddy?
I lost all respect for them when they took themselves too seriously.

Bed calleth, g'night peeps :)
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:20, archived)
# manufactured pop for the white mainstream, it's not even proper fucking disco
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:27, archived)
# because Anders Breivik wasn't at their most recent concert
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:25, archived)
# he was.. detained
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:30, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:43, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! mofaha ┐( ˘_˘)┌ ʅ(́◡◝)ʃ, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:45, archived)
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(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 3:54, archived)
# I'm people--where's the village?
(I helped save b3ta! LS18, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:07, archived)
# it's just dawned on me you didn't use the policeman character for any of those
sure Victor Willis is there, but that is not any kind of a police uniform I have ever seen
 
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 7:06, archived)
# FIRST HE WAS AFRAID, THEN HE WAS PETRIFIED
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:02, archived)
# this thread is getting well disco up in here, well disco
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:16, archived)
# for old time sakes
(I helped save b3ta! BargeArse Maker of fine Trouser Trumpets since 1863, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:27, archived)
# SHAKE IT LIKE YOU ARE GOING TO BREAK IT
(I helped save b3ta! Rapitinui get in the cage and I'll give you a treat, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 4:28, archived)
# Little bastards!
(plkrtn, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 2:06, archived)
# Newcastle on fire too..

not really
(I helped save b3ta! mikenco, Wed 10 Aug 2011, 2:22, archived)

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