
but only to check you got it right.
Haha.
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Haha.

This week's choices are:
* Imagine the internet was in everything - your fridge, your socks, your fruit - what would this world be like?"
* What if the British Empire had never ended?
* If inanimate objects had bodily functions: A chair doing a shit. A sock with an erection. And so on.
* Duck in abusive relationships.
Vote vote vote:




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* Imagine the internet was in everything - your fridge, your socks, your fruit - what would this world be like?"
* What if the British Empire had never ended?
* If inanimate objects had bodily functions: A chair doing a shit. A sock with an erection. And so on.
* Duck in abusive relationships.
Vote vote vote:





the first one this week's challenge reworded?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:38,
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It's meant to say GAY ROBOTS
*with great big guns
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:45,
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*with great big guns

Recoats on our high streets
ready to bayonet the forrins!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:42,
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ready to bayonet the forrins!

from just 'switch off your mobile phone and enjoy the movie'.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 17:24,
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Some of them even end up posted on b3ta
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:43,
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well, you've all shown your true colours you colonialist bastards
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:51,
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"Dear India, Pakistan and South Africa, would you like the white people to come back and oppress you some more fix your country? Love, the Daily Mail"
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:56,
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and Apple computers were British etc rather than lol let's kill the darkies. Or that's what I hope it means anyway.
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I can't see anything that says you can pea on a new thread in a compo but lots of people seem to do it. Clarification please. I only ask because I already have a British Empire Strikes Back animation and I am a lazy, indolent twat.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 17:02,
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"Gay Robots" this week if that was the fifth option.
*spoils paper*
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 19:14,
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*spoils paper*

Because Ninja is hide in dark.
...Japanese opinion.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:22,
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...Japanese opinion.

the black misconception arose from stage productions
unless that's a mermaid, vampire, ninja actor
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:39,
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unless that's a mermaid, vampire, ninja actor

I know exist un-Japanese Ninja of the colorful.
But There are NOT such Ninjas in Japan ^^;
Because Ninja is the presence hidden in the darkness, should not be noticeable.
Ninja is the work of people who work like Mission Impossible. (※Not the Tom Cruise. I don't like Mission Impossible movie version)
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:47,
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But There are NOT such Ninjas in Japan ^^;
Because Ninja is the presence hidden in the darkness, should not be noticeable.
Ninja is the work of people who work like Mission Impossible. (※Not the Tom Cruise. I don't like Mission Impossible movie version)

very dark blue was used to fit in outdoor shadows
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Gappa_travel_cape_and_zunin_with_kusari_armor.jpg/200px-Gappa_travel_cape_and_zunin_with_kusari_armor.jpg
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upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/af/Gappa_travel_cape_and_zunin_with_kusari_armor.jpg/200px-Gappa_travel_cape_and_zunin_with_kusari_armor.jpg


And they didn't usually have things like katanas, most of them used modified farming tools.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:49,
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Teenage Vampire Ninja Mermaids,
Teenage Vampire Ninja Mermaids,
Heroes that don't half smell.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:30,
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Teenage Vampire Ninja Mermaids,
Heroes that don't half smell.

I got stuck at that bit.
(Despite turtles being appropriately aquatic in their own right).
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 17:19,
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(Despite turtles being appropriately aquatic in their own right).

fuck, my mother has lost the plot. after singing "seven pieces of toenail, hanging round my shoe", she just accused me of smoking pot in her kitchen.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:48,
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She definetely sounds like the mad one in that kitchen.
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as i can't handle the paranoia these days
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:00,
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usually when I've been smoking pot in her kitchen, though
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 16:10,
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Does she ever say "millennium hand and shrimp" or "buggrit" by any chance?
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my most unwanted relative looks like the member of the hutt family that the rest are too ashamed to talk about. if i wore a bacon mask near her, i'd lose my fucking head!
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he's an awful wanker, that gandalf.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:03,
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I went to see the Hobbit at the weekend. It was ace, didn't drag like all the moaners were moaning. I did watch in good old low definition 2D, which saved me about £15 as well.
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Also, was trying to work out who the voice of the goblin king was, only Barry bloody Humphries!
It's a bit of an odd mix of kids film and LotR epicness, but I really enjoyed it.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:31,
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It's a bit of an odd mix of kids film and LotR epicness, but I really enjoyed it.

because i said "fuck! that's barry humphries!"
my voice can travel through walls at the best of times :(
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:35,
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my voice can travel through walls at the best of times :(

but decided not to bother once they announced it was going to be 3 movies.
Fuck, as they say, that
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:09,
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Fuck, as they say, that

3d doesn't work for me anyways :(
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:11,
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Jackson filled in the simple straight-ahead original plot with the humongousity of Tolkien's world that were left loose or unmentioned in TLotR, though the flashbacks and babbling about Istari and stuff and long shots of midgets running around New Zealand have paced it down a bit. In the end, it is possible that you will spend more time watching the movies than reading the book.
The hi-res 3D version was kinda unsettling for my brain because I watched it subtitled and felt weird, but was quite an experience nonetheless.
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The hi-res 3D version was kinda unsettling for my brain because I watched it subtitled and felt weird, but was quite an experience nonetheless.

How hard can it be..?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:30,
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:40,
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All we know is - he's called the Q!
/lame
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:45,
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/lame


*zips anorak all the way up*
EDIT bugger Wikipedia does have them down as a race.
*hands over anorak in shame*
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:50,
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EDIT bugger Wikipedia does have them down as a race.
*hands over anorak in shame*

like the mattresses in Hitchhikers, except they are all called Zem
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also, did you know Q junior is played by john de lancie's real-life son?
EDIT: guess who got the star trek edition of scene it? for christmas...
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:53,
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EDIT: guess who got the star trek edition of scene it? for christmas...

To compound my b3ta failing I've just posted a massive GC over on links.
It contains Legolas though so you'll probably like it.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:58,
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It contains Legolas though so you'll probably like it.

2 minutes 10 of giggling like a fucking loon, right there. consider it well and truly clicked!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:03,
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That film will never be the same again for it though!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:12,
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but tonight, i've got a new film to watch
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he does own the DB5 featured in Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies...
And drove it up to the casino in Goldeneye. So technically, Clarkson has played James Bond.
God, I hate myself sometimes
EDIT: although, having read the Q business up there, I think I win non-nerd points
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:08,
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And drove it up to the casino in Goldeneye. So technically, Clarkson has played James Bond.
God, I hate myself sometimes
EDIT: although, having read the Q business up there, I think I win non-nerd points

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:15,
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me?
Pah, I'm just a Bond nerd. The only cars I know about are the ones with machine guns behind the headlights
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:37,
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Pah, I'm just a Bond nerd. The only cars I know about are the ones with machine guns behind the headlights

/definitely hasn't got a bugatti veyron keyring attached to her keys
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:45,
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I see some Newbie called Ninj has done the same! ;)
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:32,
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Now I drawing something about jollyjack.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=264#/d3jxtet
I like this design.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:27,
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I like this design.

We try not to encourage him.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:01,
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Ted has a vague erection watching Denise Welch armwrestling Alan Titchmarsh.
Later he will have an uncomfortable meeting with his parents when Gary surreptitiously films him serially readjusting his joggers and posts it on Facebook. His former girlfriend does not understand. She never has.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:59,
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Later he will have an uncomfortable meeting with his parents when Gary surreptitiously films him serially readjusting his joggers and posts it on Facebook. His former girlfriend does not understand. She never has.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:19,
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I'm not gonna spend my life being a colour
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:30,
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it's well known that the title was supposed to be "the very hungay caterpillar", and be set in Gemany.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:39,
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is this more Lepidopterally correct?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:46,
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Just writing a doc saying you're all great and want some good examples.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:42,
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just scroll through the history of FPs
Now I'm trying to work out whether your definition of Photoshoppery matches mine.
If it's pure hummus then almost anyone on here wins, if it's painstaking craftsmanship and attention to detail then I'll stick with the first three (until I can remember the names/examples of others)
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:42,
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Now I'm trying to work out whether your definition of Photoshoppery matches mine.
If it's pure hummus then almost anyone on here wins, if it's painstaking craftsmanship and attention to detail then I'll stick with the first three (until I can remember the names/examples of others)

E.g. This was particularly well received: www.b3ta.com/board/10901233
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:43,
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'Cos Joe Scaramanga Ninj, Freshwatervole, Smallbrainfield and Matazone can all make me IRL LOL, but it can be quite geeky, and then there's stuff like Prodge's which is well lush.
Also, Spider & Scorpion by JJ is one of my favourite cartoons ever, including Calvin & Hobbes.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:46,
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Also, Spider & Scorpion by JJ is one of my favourite cartoons ever, including Calvin & Hobbes.

Just saying like.
Also: (^(^;;^)^) TEAM SPIDERS says LENINGRAD's "Tell Me Again Human" FTW.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:46,
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Also: (^(^;;^)^) TEAM SPIDERS says LENINGRAD's "Tell Me Again Human" FTW.

i wouldn't trust him though, have you seen his chin?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:57,
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and there are far too many to mention.
Mighty Nibus
The Silent Channel has done a couple of things I've enjoyed recently.
As has Brian O'Blivion.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:05,
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Mighty Nibus
The Silent Channel has done a couple of things I've enjoyed recently.
As has Brian O'Blivion.

Incredible skills though
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:08,
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Many of my faves have already been suggested - ninj, BBDO, monkeon, HT, smallbrainfield et al.
Also add in Dave the Hat, The Great Arhitect (although he doesn't post here much these days), and a few others. Lemme check my 'likes'
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:58,
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Also add in Dave the Hat, The Great Arhitect (although he doesn't post here much these days), and a few others. Lemme check my 'likes'

Captain Howdy is looking large in things I've clicked recently, as is Fresh Water Mole.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:01,
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There are too many good people on b3ta, dammit!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:04,
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About 70% of my recent clicks have been Capt Howdy, Doc When, FWM, or your good self.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:06,
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"Basks in Fawning" probably has lots of strange country ways and inbreeding and so forth
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:02,
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Go to your own profile and click on the things you have liked link.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:13,
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I'm mainly a toap tastic 'shopper though.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:59,
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go and look at his profile page for proof. Edit: and this: www.b3ta.com/board/9638217
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:05,
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Ninj or Human Descent are probably the best in terms of potatoswopping skills. Atomic is the best at making me go 'fuuuuck'.
I don't know, the way b3ta is, it could be anybody on a good day. That's why I still like the place.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:02,
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I don't know, the way b3ta is, it could be anybody on a good day. That's why I still like the place.

I couldnt really single out any as on their day, everyone comes up with something lol worthy.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:04,
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just looking through your FPs. Love the John Bunnell and the Han Solo.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:07,
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depends on what floats your boat and what mood you are in. Many of the funny things have been contextual or specifically relating to news/current affairs/culture at the time. Looking back at them, you'd only have the responses to go on!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:06,
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Righty takes longer to refill these days, and middly only dispenses wine anyway.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:14,
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maiden, Rattlehead, Capt Hood-Butter, Ham o' Shatner and Gruffi...
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:24,
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I'll have to go make a proper list
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:25,
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plus everyone else mentioned above, there's too many good people to remember them all
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:28,
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Nobody admits to liking him but he's on all the bloody time :D
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:33,
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but Snow Patrol? *burns sketch books and biros*
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:11,
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Frankly, I'm appalled.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:37,
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I rekon I was probably an artist in a former life. Or maybe a vet
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:57,
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I was here because of Slim, Grey Kid, Butters, Baz, The Great Architect, Mofaha, Monkeon, Mystery Bob, Eclectech, Leningrad, Sunshine Elephant and several dozen others.
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but he hasn't posted for so long. Even the phrase 'Slim already did it' has fallen into disrepair.
Edit: The Neville! Fuck, I loved his stuff. I still have the Colm Meaney song on my wall at work.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:09,
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Edit: The Neville! Fuck, I loved his stuff. I still have the Colm Meaney song on my wall at work.

Consistently funniest is Monkeon, IMO, although the joy of the board is that any post can make you really giggle.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:03,
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"the man who took gronkpan seriously" or something like that? For some reason that made me giggle like an idiot.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 17:08,
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Bless you ^All up there^ for the mention.
Really do appreciate it.
For me I would have to (and it's NOT a cop out) I would just have to
'copy and paste' my friends list.
There's a lot who I love but aren't there simply because you're
limited to the amount you can have *blushes*
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:23,
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Really do appreciate it.
For me I would have to (and it's NOT a cop out) I would just have to
'copy and paste' my friends list.
There's a lot who I love but aren't there simply because you're
limited to the amount you can have *blushes*

far too many
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:41,
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I just realized that I love you all.
*tears of joy*
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:48,
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*tears of joy*

Oh and chopchopchop, op op op op op and Smartie123 for his lovely Christmas card.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:04,
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I'd like to add that there are a multitude of other b3tans, (some semi-regular or currently absent), whose work I greatly admire - Drimble, Atomic, Ferret, Q4nobody, Mofaha, Christian's Bolt and Ski, Clay, The Hedgehog From Hell, Benito Vaselini, Joe Scarmanaga, Shiro Kuma, Prodigy69, Cockweasle, The Great Architect, Ad7, Bela Lugosi's Dad, Monkeon, An Eagle In Your Mind, BarryHeadwound, and Fresh Water Mole are the first names that spring to mind.
Ask me again, tomorrow, and I'll be able to give you a whole new list.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:04,
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Ask me again, tomorrow, and I'll be able to give you a whole new list.

I'd say for consistently the funniest Monkeon is right up there (at least, when I understand them; I'm very slow), and smallbrainfield, and Fresh Water Mole, and someone mentioned the Neville who is a huge loss to B3ta because he was brilliant. Beau Bo d'Or and the Great Architect, drbroon when he posted more, etc. etc.
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All these guys have made me laugh on many occasions:
The Neville
Cockweasle
Monkeon
SBF
FWM
Beau Bo D'or
Doctor When
The magic of chutney
WATL
Butters
And these guys are awesome as well:
HT, Ninj, Wildyles, Herman, shiro_kuma, mictoboy, ameobaboy, Mutated Monty, Smearballs, mofaha, etc...
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 22:04,
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The Neville
Cockweasle
Monkeon
SBF
FWM
Beau Bo D'or
Doctor When
The magic of chutney
WATL
Butters
And these guys are awesome as well:
HT, Ninj, Wildyles, Herman, shiro_kuma, mictoboy, ameobaboy, Mutated Monty, Smearballs, mofaha, etc...

cockweasle, howdy, prodge, monkeon, BHW, toasty, mofaha, FWM, ninj, ghoti, ham o shatner, Q4, rattlehead, 1.618, dubya, mu, herman, discomeats, shiro kuma, atomic, smallbrainfield, -D-, clansoul, bourbon,mictoboy
(to name but a small few)
..also, honourary mentions for...
'We are the lemon' for this wee cracker
and '2 can chunder' for this belter
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(to name but a small few)
..also, honourary mentions for...
'We are the lemon' for this wee cracker
and '2 can chunder' for this belter

this Beauty is less than a mile from where I am sitting EIGHT NOW!
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Bizarrely, I've been listening to a load of his SAW-produced stuff this morning. I'd forgotten how much I loved it and it made me laugh.
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I rather subscribe to the idea that if you can't feed them, you shouldn't have them.
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because people's circumstances *never* change after they've had children. No one's ever lost a job or got ill or anything.
Note: I'm not particularly against cutting benefit for high earners, though not sure if this one's been done right. Afaict, a household with two people earning 49k don't lose anything, but a single parent earning 50k does?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:18,
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Note: I'm not particularly against cutting benefit for high earners, though not sure if this one's been done right. Afaict, a household with two people earning 49k don't lose anything, but a single parent earning 50k does?

Particularly if the household has a £50k+ earner in it.
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if one person earns x they have their benefits cut...
but if two people both earning over x/2 will be fine...
I think.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:36,
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but if two people both earning over x/2 will be fine...
I think.

workhouses perhaps?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:45,
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It's pretty simple. Having a baby in the UK is a choice, not a right or an obligation.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:56,
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And what about the women who choose to have a baby regardless of their financial circumstances? Presumably the state steps in at that point, removes their choice, and forces them kicking and screaming to terminate their pregnancy.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:36,
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they haven't thought it through, or is a fucking spastic
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:38,
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Based not on need, but in recognition of the societal benefit that parents deliver in raising the next generation of taxpayers, and generally to support that activity.
There's a school of thought that believes that this is the thin end of the wedge, and that once universal entitlements such as this start getting eroded, it's only a matter of time before people start asking questions like "well why should healthcare and education be free to all as well?.
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There's a school of thought that believes that this is the thin end of the wedge, and that once universal entitlements such as this start getting eroded, it's only a matter of time before people start asking questions like "well why should healthcare and education be free to all as well?.

I don't have kids, so I'd rather the money I pay for other peoples went to the more deserving ones. (Jeez I sound like some kind of Daily mail nutjob now)
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It's definitely off my list for "appropriate discussion topics when beer is involved" after a particular incident where a mate and I almost came to blows having found ourselves getting more and more polarised as what started out as a pretty amiable and abstract discussion went on.
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Considering how many people take absolute advantage of the NHS, and don't contribute, I'm starting to think that maybe healthcare shouldn't be FAPOD either.
As for education - that I do think the state should provide.
But as for children - nah. You choose to have them, you pay for them until they can pay and contribute financially for themselves.
The old have already paid.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:05,
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As for education - that I do think the state should provide.
But as for children - nah. You choose to have them, you pay for them until they can pay and contribute financially for themselves.
The old have already paid.

Children aren't a luxury commodity, like pets, for rich people. They are people and are valuable in themselves.
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You don't need them; they're a lifestyle choice.
I don't expect the state to pick up the tab for my liver.
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I don't expect the state to pick up the tab for my liver.

They are PEOPLE. Children have a right to exist for their own sake, as individuals, not for their parents' sake. They are not objects, or items of property.
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or humanity would die out. Actually, NOT having children is a luxury.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:01,
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You CHOOSE to have children, in which case, you should pay for them.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:08,
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Ever noticed how it tends to be the more well off people in developed countries who choose to have fewer children, and leave it later in life? Because they are a major lifestyle/career inconvenience, even though it is necessary for the continuation of society.
Anyone who has children purely as a "lifestyle choice" is in for a big fucking shock.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:12,
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Anyone who has children purely as a "lifestyle choice" is in for a big fucking shock.

Not the best of reasons, perhaps. She's not worked since because, apparently, child care costs more than she'd make working the same number of hours.
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I wouldn't want to be in her shoes, that's for sure.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:23,
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do you know you can get paid £150 a week or more to foster a child? So if that kid got taken into care and rehomed, some middle class family could get paid more than the kid's own mum. In fact £150 a week was more than I got paid in my first job.
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also you don't get free dental care or glasses when you're on the dole.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:42,
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I'm on the dole and I get free dental care, free eye tests and a voucher towards glasses. I can get free glasses if i want the jarvis cocker nhs style ones.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 20:49,
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Hey, who says the nuclear family is dead?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:51,
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it was only ever a stepping stone between the traditional extended family and Aldous Huxley's dystopian nightmare.
I didn't even get paid £150 a week in my first job.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:02,
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I didn't even get paid £150 a week in my first job.

In the UK it's a lifestyle choice to have children, and should therefore only have them if you can pay for them.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:35,
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It's not a lifestyle choice unless you are a fucking moron. If you are going to treat your children like fashion accessories then frankly they should be taken away from you no matter you can afford them or not.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:41,
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You don't NEED to have children, you CHOOSE to, for the lifestyle - whether that's for them to look after you in your old age, or to see their little faces when you buy them Christmas presents, or just because the house feels so big and empty.
It's a lifestyle choice.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:53,
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It's a lifestyle choice.

of doing something for somebody else's sake instead of your own?
Are you incapable of understanding that, given that having children is necessary for the survival of humanity, it is an IMPERATIVE that people do it?
Nobody but the pathologically vain or emotionally crippled have children for any of the reasons you stated.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 13:59,
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Are you incapable of understanding that, given that having children is necessary for the survival of humanity, it is an IMPERATIVE that people do it?
Nobody but the pathologically vain or emotionally crippled have children for any of the reasons you stated.

I'm not too fond of humanity as it is, particularly people who breed and can't afford to support their own offspring, and particularly particularly those who whine that it's all so unfair that they're not receiving child benefit any more, despite the fact that they're on £50k pa and regularly take said fucking spawn to the pub.
People should not have kids unless they can guarantee they won't impact on anyone else's life unrequested.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:08,
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People should not have kids unless they can guarantee they won't impact on anyone else's life unrequested.

Because it doesn't say what you just said. At all.
Selfish genes do not equal selfish people. That's actually the entire point of the book - how altruistic tendencies evolved.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:11,
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Selfish genes do not equal selfish people. That's actually the entire point of the book - how altruistic tendencies evolved.

... and it also doesn't even mention "Children Welcome" signs on pubs.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:14,
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it is the creation of other people, at your own personal expense.
But I see where you're coming from now. You're the worst sort of misanthropist. A petty one.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:16,
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But I see where you're coming from now. You're the worst sort of misanthropist. A petty one.

It's the reproduction of yourself, to satisfy your own ego, and meet your own ends, at the expense of others.
That's pretty selfish, in my book.
You numpty DUMPTY.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:20,
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That's pretty selfish, in my book.
You numpty DUMPTY.

Your offspring will be competing with you for resources. That's why selfish people hold off for the sake of their careers. It's not at the expense of others, it's an investment for the future of the whole of society, which couldn't continue to function without it. People who spend their whole lives accumulating wealth and not looking after children, or indeed anybody else, they are the selfish ones.
Nobody procreates to satisfy their own egos and meet their own ends. I don't know why I should have to repeat this. Maybe that's why you do everything you do. In which case you fail at humanity.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:24,
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Nobody procreates to satisfy their own egos and meet their own ends. I don't know why I should have to repeat this. Maybe that's why you do everything you do. In which case you fail at humanity.

Absolute nonsense. That's exactly why people (in the UK) procreate.
Of course, many try to dress it up with all sorts of pretentiousness, but that's the root cause.
That's why people breed instead of adopt, and have IVF treatment.
"Because it's different when it's your own."
Of course it is - you have a vested (ie selfish) interest in it.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:30,
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Of course, many try to dress it up with all sorts of pretentiousness, but that's the root cause.
That's why people breed instead of adopt, and have IVF treatment.
"Because it's different when it's your own."
Of course it is - you have a vested (ie selfish) interest in it.

To suggest that selfishness is the root cause of procreation is nothing short of absurdity. The root cause is a natural drive that we now have the intellectual ability to subvert, which is done for selfish reasons such as careers, social life etc..
There's nothing pretentious in saying that by having children, you are playing a part in the creation of the next generation, because that is exactly what you are doing. Sadly we are encouraged these days to try to think up a "what's in it for me" style justification for absolutely everything.
Sometimes the IVF thing does irk me when there are babies wanting adoption. But how is there a vested interest in bringing up "your own" child over somebody else's? What actual practical difference would it make? It's the child that stands to gain, not yourself. They might have your genes, but they don't carry on your ego. There might be "selfish gene" work going on here but "selfish gene" is nothing more than the provocative title of a book. A gene can't be selfish because it doesn't have a sense of self. It's ultimately an irrational, instinctive thing, not the "rational self-interest" of Homo Economicus.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:45,
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There's nothing pretentious in saying that by having children, you are playing a part in the creation of the next generation, because that is exactly what you are doing. Sadly we are encouraged these days to try to think up a "what's in it for me" style justification for absolutely everything.
Sometimes the IVF thing does irk me when there are babies wanting adoption. But how is there a vested interest in bringing up "your own" child over somebody else's? What actual practical difference would it make? It's the child that stands to gain, not yourself. They might have your genes, but they don't carry on your ego. There might be "selfish gene" work going on here but "selfish gene" is nothing more than the provocative title of a book. A gene can't be selfish because it doesn't have a sense of self. It's ultimately an irrational, instinctive thing, not the "rational self-interest" of Homo Economicus.

Yes. Procreation of the self.
It's OK - everyone's selfish.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 14:59,
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It's OK - everyone's selfish.

It isn't procreation of the SELF. It is procreation of your genes - well, HALF of your genes (and half of your partner's). Your baby is not YOU. Your genes are not you. Genes do not have a "self". Even a pair of identical twins is still two individuals.
It's a natural drive, which means it doesn't have a conscious, selfish reason such as "so that they will look after me in my old age." These things are post-rationalisations. The truth is, when someone knows they want kids, they don't know why. They just do. It's way beyond the scope of the ego. It's NOT having children that is a conscious decision, that people make for selfish, egotistical reasons such as "career".
Everyone is NOT SELFISH. Maybe you should read The Selfish Gene. It explains why.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:06,
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It's a natural drive, which means it doesn't have a conscious, selfish reason such as "so that they will look after me in my old age." These things are post-rationalisations. The truth is, when someone knows they want kids, they don't know why. They just do. It's way beyond the scope of the ego. It's NOT having children that is a conscious decision, that people make for selfish, egotistical reasons such as "career".
Everyone is NOT SELFISH. Maybe you should read The Selfish Gene. It explains why.

So it's selfish.
"The truth is, when someone knows they want kids, they don't know why".
Which is why I'm providing this rather wonderful elucidation. I'm telling you why - because they're selfish. It's because they want them.
Like I want a threesome with Natalie Portman and Scarlett Johanssen. I don't need one; I just want one.
It's done (in the UK) because people are that shallow, their lives that empty, and their relationships that fragile that they think having a kid will fulfil them. It also provides the parent with someone utterly dependent on them.
It's all me, me, me. Of course - as you point out, many are unaware of this; many try to disguise this intention, but it's the root.
MINE. ME.
"im not a vilent man but i swer eny1 goes near my dauter an ill do time"
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:25,
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"The truth is, when someone knows they want kids, they don't know why".
Which is why I'm providing this rather wonderful elucidation. I'm telling you why - because they're selfish. It's because they want them.
Like I want a threesome with Natalie Portman and Scarlett Johanssen. I don't need one; I just want one.
It's done (in the UK) because people are that shallow, their lives that empty, and their relationships that fragile that they think having a kid will fulfil them. It also provides the parent with someone utterly dependent on them.
It's all me, me, me. Of course - as you point out, many are unaware of this; many try to disguise this intention, but it's the root.
MINE. ME.
"im not a vilent man but i swer eny1 goes near my dauter an ill do time"

I really hope the former.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:35,
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is to the genes. Drives have no awareness of self. Even insects have this drive. Even ants, who sacrifice their own lives without thought for the sake of the nest.
Because "they want them" isn't any kind of answer. It's practically tautologous. WHY do they want them? That's the question. I can see why people want NOT to have them. It's because they know how it will affect their careers, their social lives, their sex lives. All conscious, selfish reasons. A reason really has to be conscious to be selfish, because the self is the conscious.
You seem to be hung up on this kind of selfishness dogma. Maybe you are aware that you are selfish and you are trying to save face. Yes, we all are, to a degree, but that doesn't mean it is the only motivation for anything. It's hard to admit, but sometimes we just don't know why we do things. That's why we invented the meaningless word "want".
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:36,
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Because "they want them" isn't any kind of answer. It's practically tautologous. WHY do they want them? That's the question. I can see why people want NOT to have them. It's because they know how it will affect their careers, their social lives, their sex lives. All conscious, selfish reasons. A reason really has to be conscious to be selfish, because the self is the conscious.
You seem to be hung up on this kind of selfishness dogma. Maybe you are aware that you are selfish and you are trying to save face. Yes, we all are, to a degree, but that doesn't mean it is the only motivation for anything. It's hard to admit, but sometimes we just don't know why we do things. That's why we invented the meaningless word "want".

because they're selfish.
"They just do"/"Because it's different when they're your own."
"Yes, we all are, to a degree" - not to a degree, entirely. Of the self. Me. All of us. Nothing - charity, philanthropy, helping others is done without some at least hope of reward - whether that's money, self satisfaction, feeling smug, or the chance of being a sanctimonious prick.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:41,
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"They just do"/"Because it's different when they're your own."
"Yes, we all are, to a degree" - not to a degree, entirely. Of the self. Me. All of us. Nothing - charity, philanthropy, helping others is done without some at least hope of reward - whether that's money, self satisfaction, feeling smug, or the chance of being a sanctimonious prick.

end of discussion. Or start a new thread somewhere.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 15:37,
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It's not as simple as just a universal right to reproduce willy-nilly.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:51,
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as you say down there, benefits for up to maybe 3 children, fair enough. Rich people tend to have fewer children anyway, for whatever reason.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:55,
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So it annoys me that things like Dental care, even on the NHS, still costs me for a check-up.
If child benefit is for society, then I think it shouldn't be paid for more than three children.
I can see it shouldn't be too harsh to take it away from high earners; just a bit pathetic that they can't determine joint income for a household.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:41,
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If child benefit is for society, then I think it shouldn't be paid for more than three children.
I can see it shouldn't be too harsh to take it away from high earners; just a bit pathetic that they can't determine joint income for a household.

where politicians look like they're doing something though most people think they're doing nothing - but they're actually doing something else, then before you know it, SHARIA LAW, DEATHCAMPS and MANDATORY CELINE DION
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:06,
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not sealion dion, won't somebody think of the children?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:21,
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that reminds me of what dara o'brien said on star gazing LIVE last night when they had K9 on doing a mini quiz section.
"K9 the only TV star from the 70's you safely book on the BBC".
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:30,
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"K9 the only TV star from the 70's you safely book on the BBC".

because of the number of children suddenly without fathers.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:30,
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but ensuring everyone in society feels the benefits of there being a welfare state means that support for the system is maintained.
This is the real reason they want to be rid of a universal benefit, as once the noisy middle classes stop receiving it, cutting it for the needy becomes much simpler and quieter.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:35,
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This is the real reason they want to be rid of a universal benefit, as once the noisy middle classes stop receiving it, cutting it for the needy becomes much simpler and quieter.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:09,
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Can't afford gym membership, see.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:40,
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I think they've confused 'COPD' with 'fruit cake'
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:02,
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Once I've finished drinking my Starbucks.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:58,
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however the anstrad emailer did have built in spectrum games.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:23,
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And then sigh for the future of the species.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:09,
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www.stuff.tv/news/ces/rumour-mill/samsung-transparent-portrait-tv-coming-to-ces-2013-next-week
I imagine it will have a smartphone dock
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:12,
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I imagine it will have a smartphone dock

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like concept cars
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:19,
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What a target for any kid with a brick?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:43,
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Plus, your windows will quickly be covered in greasy fingerprints.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:17,
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I suppose the tablet-mirroring proposition is something, but still seems utterly pointless.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:36,
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watching 'how it's made' on quest.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:25,
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Is it just me or does anyone else avoid 3D because I hate wearing those damn glasses?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:38,
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but yes I'd hate wearing them damn glasses too
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:41,
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They ended up not wearing them and just watching it blury instead.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:46,
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Call me old fashioned but I kind of like how my eyes see things already
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:58,
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Since I was young I was a big 3D enthusiast, waiting decades for a really good system to come out. It finally has, I've enjoyed it, and now I can take it or leave it.
Be careful what you wish for.

because it all looks blurry, black and white and gives me a headache
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:49,
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I thought I was missing something like amazing those magic eye pics?
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:51,
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They're simple little things, it doesn't take much to amaze them.
Also: I've seen two films in 3D -- Avatar and Alice in Wonderland. Avatar was visually impressive but shit, Alice in Wonderland was visually unimpressive and looked for all the world like a very high-class South Park-esque construction paper film. At the end of it, I had chafed ears and a chafed nose from having to wear 3D glasses on top of my normal glasses.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:54,
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Also: I've seen two films in 3D -- Avatar and Alice in Wonderland. Avatar was visually impressive but shit, Alice in Wonderland was visually unimpressive and looked for all the world like a very high-class South Park-esque construction paper film. At the end of it, I had chafed ears and a chafed nose from having to wear 3D glasses on top of my normal glasses.

Different experience all together. Much better.
The cinema passive systems are ho hum.
And glasses free consumer sets are already on sale, just stupid expensive.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:00,
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The cinema passive systems are ho hum.
And glasses free consumer sets are already on sale, just stupid expensive.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:03,
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i hadn't been sold on the idea before, but i am now.
this is how they should advertise them.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:28,
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this is how they should advertise them.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:59,
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seen a few things with my kids and it adds little except the potential for headaches
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:52,
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Plus that fact that you miss valuable parts of the movie, dealing with kids that say their eyes are dizzy!
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:55,
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As has been said many times, it's drawing attention to the packaging rather than the content - a bit like reading a good book which every fourth page interrupts the story to talk about the binding method and type of paper used in its construction
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:03,
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It's all Kindle this and iPad that nowadays
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:20,
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I hate 3D too. I just walk around with one eye closed.
Did anyone watch the Hobbit 3D HFR? I just watched the normal 3d and hated it. I wish I went to see the 2D. HFR looks like blokes on a set dressed up daft. Not a magical film.
The crappy grain and motion blur makes it look like cinema. Now that the cinemas are HD that's gone.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:06,
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as you have to look either at the subtitles or at the scene. And the subtitles are oddly placed in the front plan, and makes me dizzy reading it as the cam and characters keep moving around.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 12:02,
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If 3D is done properly, it just looks like normal everyday stuff which isn't very exciting.
When it's done over the top it's just unrealistic.
You can't win really.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 20:44,
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When it's done over the top it's just unrealistic.
You can't win really.

they all have to run up and touch the screen to make it start
also, those seats make me want chips
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 11:16,
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also, those seats make me want chips



I always thought that fecked-up doc looked liked Jean Claude mixed with Christopher Walken
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 10:52,
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When at 2am he encountered this creature on a patch of waste ground near the Liverpool Exchange Station off Tithebarn St.
He described it as making a WUB WUB WUB sound. His memories after this point are unclear, and he was found wandering in the early hours of the morning in a distressed state.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 9:56,
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He described it as making a WUB WUB WUB sound. His memories after this point are unclear, and he was found wandering in the early hours of the morning in a distressed state.

A gronkpan company. 2013
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 2:53,
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That said, it may my be time for bed
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 1:30,
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They may have been funny a while back, but now...meh.
Jusssayin'like.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 1:33,
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Jusssayin'like.

There are several (fairly) talented people here just slapping an fbase on things instead of using their wonderful imaginations.
I think the fbases have run their course.
ALSO: I wish I had a vagina on the back of my heel so I could fuck myself vigorously, regularly.
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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 2:04,
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I think the fbases have run their course.
ALSO: I wish I had a vagina on the back of my heel so I could fuck myself vigorously, regularly.



Don't take it personally you dick.

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 2:46,
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Do you think Chavez should be inaugurated despite his absence?
Why did mankind take so long to attach wheels to suitcases?
Why is orange jam called marmalade?

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Wed 9 Jan 2013, 3:05,
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Why did mankind take so long to attach wheels to suitcases?
Why is orange jam called marmalade?




We shall wear dresses made of sweaty Filipinos.
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